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hospital accidentally injects woman with cleaning fluid

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Originally posted by: shilala
I'm shocked that they openly admitted the mistake and are taking full responsibility for it.
Shame on them for the screw up, but you have to give them points for being decent enough to do the right thing and fees up.
You don't see honesty following liability very often.
Classy move on the hospital's part.

thats not a classy move. its they know there is NOTHING they can lie about. a classy move would be to make sure such stuff does not happen ever.


I hope everyone involved gets fired. The hospital gets hit with a very large lawsuit.
 
I'm absolutely shocked about this.
I just imagine if this had happend as my mom at the hospital for something minor, and someone did this to her. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: Babbles
How in the heck did somebody confuse the radiation dye stuff with what is basically bleach?? Somebody needs their licsense revoked.

Unfortunately, these incidents kinda come down to statistics.. millions of injections every year, and at least a couple of mishaps.

The scary part is, a lot of times the mishap probably goes undetected because the mistakenly injected substance doesn't cause any noticable ill effects to the patient (i.e. if you substitue one medicine for another, they may have similar side-effects, or no side-effects, and no one is the wiser, even though the mistake is just as 'big').
 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: maziwanka
omg. this is horrible.

when i was in india they had incompetent nurses who were about to inject me with a needle that had not had air bubbles removed.

Your body can tolerate a whole lot more air than that... I'e seen ~20 ml injected into a vein without a problem...

That stuff in the movies is a myth...

Wrong! ask any junkie and they'll tell you that air bubles can kill
 
Originally posted by: Brian23
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: maziwanka
omg. this is horrible.

when i was in india they had incompetent nurses who were about to inject me with a needle that had not had air bubbles removed.

Your body can tolerate a whole lot more air than that... I'e seen ~20 ml injected into a vein without a problem...

That stuff in the movies is a myth...

Wrong! ask any junkie and they'll tell you that air bubles can kill

lol, I think it depends on where you inject it. But yea, it's good to tap the syringe to get rid of the bubbles like most doctors/nurses do right before injection, don't want no air bubbles blocking arteries/veins...
 
Originally posted by: Brian23
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: maziwanka
omg. this is horrible.

when i was in india they had incompetent nurses who were about to inject me with a needle that had not had air bubbles removed.

Your body can tolerate a whole lot more air than that... I'e seen ~20 ml injected into a vein without a problem...

That stuff in the movies is a myth...

Wrong! ask any junkie and they'll tell you that air bubles can kill

Dude you are wrong, when you flag a hit you can watch the air bubble disappear
 
"The cleansing solution basically acted as a poison, which caused widespread damage to the organs of her body," Caplan said. The damage "couldn't be remedied or reversed, even through aggressive treatment," including amputation of one of the woman's legs, he said.

not only did she die, they cut off her leg prior too.

jeez, man that's terrible.
 
Bad enough that she died, but sounded like it was painful as hell. Massive organ failure and amputation, holy hell talk about pain and suffering.
 
we need tort reform to protect that hospital from frivilous lawsuits so the doctors and nurses can continue making stupid mistakes that kill ppl

simple hospital errors kill 40,000-100k each year, and that's a conservative estimate
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: shilala
I'm shocked that they openly admitted the mistake and are taking full responsibility for it.
Shame on them for the screw up, but you have to give them points for being decent enough to do the right thing and fees up.
You don't see honesty following liability very often.
Classy move on the hospital's part.

thats not a classy move. its they know there is NOTHING they can lie about. a classy move would be to make sure such stuff does not happen ever.


I hope everyone involved gets fired. The hospital gets hit with a very large lawsuit.
The story in the link said that they did just that, took measures to ensure it never happens again. If you're suggesting that the hospital assures that mistakes are never made, I'd love to see your plan for that. Unfortunately, humans make mistakes, and humans work in hospitals.
Even very competent professionals sometimes make mistakes. My doctor sent me home with a prescription a couple years ago, I was to take it in addition to the medication I was already taking. I always check up on meds before taking them, and in big red letters at webmd I saw "do not take this drug with *the other drug I was taking*". Turns out the effects could have been swift and severe.
Our family doctor has been fabulous, and I still have nothing but complete confidence in him. I told him about it, he apologized admitting he was unaware of the risk, and he hasn't killed anyone yet.
People make mistakes. Sometimes other people get killed because of it. It's life.
The hospital's insurance company will certainly take a massive hit, as it should be.
 
Originally posted by: KeyserSoze
What exactly IS a toxic antiseptic?

KeyserSoze

I can't imagine there are too many NON-toxic antiseptics...

Originally posted by: waggy
I hope everyone involved gets fired. The hospital gets hit with a very large lawsuit.

so, say, the nurse who was attending the operation, and had NOTHING to do with filling the syringe or injecting it, should lose her job because some other guy made a mistake. Right.

I, too, am surprised that there aren't safety measures in place to prevent this kind of thing, but mistakes DO happen and you can't expect perfection from every single human being alive.
 
Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
we need tort reform to protect that hospital from frivilous lawsuits so the doctors and nurses can continue making stupid mistakes that kill ppl

simple hospital errors kill 40,000-100k each year, and that's a conservative estimate

And alot of those people would die without any intervention. We're not gods, we make mistakes. I've seen so many frivilous lawsuits, so please don't comment on something you don't know much about.

In this situation, I can't see how it could have happened, except for gross negligence.
 
Originally posted by: shilala
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: shilala
I'm shocked that they openly admitted the mistake and are taking full responsibility for it.
Shame on them for the screw up, but you have to give them points for being decent enough to do the right thing and fees up.
You don't see honesty following liability very often.
Classy move on the hospital's part.

thats not a classy move. its they know there is NOTHING they can lie about. a classy move would be to make sure such stuff does not happen ever.


I hope everyone involved gets fired. The hospital gets hit with a very large lawsuit.
The story in the link said that they did just that, took measures to ensure it never happens again. If you're suggesting that the hospital assures that mistakes are never made, I'd love to see your plan for that. Unfortunately, humans make mistakes, and humans work in hospitals.
Even very competent professionals sometimes make mistakes. My doctor sent me home with a prescription a couple years ago, I was to take it in addition to the medication I was already taking. I always check up on meds before taking them, and in big red letters at webmd I saw "do not take this drug with *the other drug I was taking*". Turns out the effects could have been swift and severe.
Our family doctor has been fabulous, and I still have nothing but complete confidence in him. I told him about it, he apologized admitting he was unaware of the risk, and he hasn't killed anyone yet.
People make mistakes. Sometimes other people get killed because of it. It's life.
The hospital's insurance company will certainly take a massive hit, as it should be.


There are easy things that can be done. Such as having the stuff for such a procedure AWAY from cleaning stuff. I don't know about you but we tend to keep such stuff seprete.

HOW they can mistake the cleaning fluid for this is what amazes me. Where was the checks? Didnt someone read what they were getting ready to inject?

yes mistakes happen. But something like this should never happen. this is not a oh i gave you the wrong pills. ITS i injected you with cleaning salution!


 
thats not a classy move. its they know there is NOTHING they can lie about. a classy move would be to make sure such stuff does not happen ever.

It's absolutely essential that the truth regarding this terrible even is revealed. Any attempt to cover it up would be criminally negligent on at least the same scale as the case itself.

However, it is may not necessarily be appropriate to dismiss all those involved - indeed, such action is well recognised as encouraging the covering-up of minor incidents, precisely to escape blame. One of the most important changes in philosophy in medical practice has been the development of an open culture of reporting, rather than one of closed doors and blame. Those involved should expect to get retraining in tasks such as administering injections, etc. and reasonably be expected to be suspended from duties until such retraining is completed.

Open reporting allows health care providers to recognise minor problems before they escalate into larger ones, and put appropriate safeguards in place.

E.g. There had been several instances in a hospital where a box of 'potassium chloride solution' had been found on an IV trolley (normally vials of sodium chloride would be used to flush IV lines to stop them clotting). If the potassium solution had been used instead it could have potentially been fatal. In the past the orderly that had stocked up the trolley would have been blamed. The modern solution was to investigate it's cause - the boxes of the vials were exactly the same, except for the name, and the vials were the same plastic, same shape and size, although with a different coloured label. The solution was to change the packaging of the potassium so it could never be confused - the fact that potassium must always be diluted before use made this easy: small vials of strong solution were withdrawn and replaced with large bags of dilute solution. Clearly, accidental administration of a fatal dose of potassium would be impossible with this system.
 
Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
we need tort reform to protect that hospital from frivilous lawsuits so the doctors and nurses can continue making stupid mistakes that kill ppl
...

and with the $250,000 cap on the payout; it would cost the hospital 1/20th of what it cost Ron Artest to punch a guy. Doesn't seem quite right.
But don't blame me... I voted for the green m&m.

 
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