Hosni Mubarak, the richest man in world: Report

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Zebo

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Another thing is Saudi's population is BS. There are only 16 million Saudis extended these generous benefits, not 25. The rest are Egyptians, Americans, Filipinos, Indonesian, Europeans etc brought in to do the work. For example I was foreign and had an Egyptian driver and two Filipino maids. 9-10 million are brought in to do the real work and are counted.
 

TareX

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Why does it matter what Mubarak is estimated to be worth in real dollars or any other currency? The guy is 82 years old, and how much longer can he live anyway if he dies of natural causes. As it is, Hosni promises he will not run in the election scheduled to be held in another seven months and that applies to his two sons also.

Some people may revere Mubarak, but a far larger number don't trust a promise he utters. Is it money that motivates Mubarak, or is it the power he plans to transfer to his sons? I suspect its the latter, and an addiction to Political power can be satisfied by no other drug on earth.

Good Point. Mubarak now cares about his legacy more than money. He thought his legacy would live on, that people would remember him well, and that a regime would make sure people remembered him well. Clearly, this legacy is slipping away now.

He is dying, in fact. He just underwent a Whipple operation for intestinal cancer last year. The 5 yr survival rate is 10%. He doesn't care about money as much as he does about his legacy.

That said, this is an awful lot of money that could be used to support the country in oh-so-many ways. He needs to be prosecuted, and not be given the honorable exit he's been dreaming of. Thank goodness for social networks which exposed these tyrants and allowed for the free flow of information so people would know what their hero was really all about.

There's a joke (one of many) making rounds among Egyptians nowadays: Mubarak dies and meets Sadat and Nasser. They ask him, "Was it poison, or a bullet?" He says: "Facebook".
 
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Zebo

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GL That money is hidden in swiss secret bank accounts. Same place most dictators, drug runners and war profiteers stash their cash.
 

manimal

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GL That money is hidden in swiss secret bank accounts. Same place most dictators, drug runners and war profiteers stash their cash.

Funny how despots and dictators who get out in time have built in golden parachutes like white collar criminals here like hedge fund managers...


Dont get me wrong I am not against hedge funds and even interned at one in Chicago when I was still in college.

A guy like Mubarak knows where all the bodies are buried and the international fallout of a trial would be very damning to the US. Funny that the diplomatic papers from Wikileaks relieves some of this pressure....




Will he end up getting the Mussolini treatment ?
 

CanOWorms

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It seems that he's rich enough to give European Prime Ministers free, all expenses paid vacations.
 

Lemon law

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Lets look at it the other way, suppose Egypt gives Hosni&sons the ole heave ho, and like cads and bounders they take their God only knows billions of previously embezzled cash away with them. A bunch of countries would be willing to shelter Hosni&sons in exile for a small fraction of previously embezzled cash the Egyptian people mayl never be able to recover.

But on the other hand, its still a likely big win for Egypt, because their future is infinite in future extent, and as soon as they lose a big parasite, the Egyptians people can apply the loss of a parasite to the general welfare of all the Egyptian people.
 

the DRIZZLE

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I have to say one thing about Mubarak, and that is the fact he seems awful hard to get rid of.

The typical dictator usually takes their money and runs when the jig is up, and many spend decades in comfortable retirement as they enjoy their ill gotten gains.

But in the case of Hosni, he is hoping to somehow outlast the protests, and just might manage the feat. Or on the other hand, if Hosni chooses not to go when the jig is up, he may simply lose his life instead, and usual method is typically a pistol to the head.

So in that sense, Mubarak may be playing you bet your life on the outcome.

Well Mubarak probably has a bit of confidence after watching what happened in Iran last year. Successful revolutions are far from inevitable. Besides, realistically we will probably help him escape the country if things get really hairy.
 

conorosa

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A new word has been added to the Oxford dictionary

Mubarak: verb, to stick to something like superglue, i.e "I'll Mubarak these posters on the wall" or "My balls are Mubaraking to my thighs."
 

TareX

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Lets look at it the other way, suppose Egypt gives Hosni&sons the ole heave ho, and like cads and bounders they take their God only knows billions of previously embezzled cash away with them. A bunch of countries would be willing to shelter Hosni&sons in exile for a small fraction of previously embezzled cash the Egyptian people mayl never be able to recover.

But on the other hand, its still a likely big win for Egypt, because their future is infinite in future extent, and as soon as they lose a big parasite, the Egyptians people can apply the loss of a parasite to the general welfare of all the Egyptian people.

It's an phrase being repeated throughout the Egyptian blogosphere: The losses Egypt is incurring now (thanks in large to Mubarak's act of terror on Friday 28th) is nothing compared to the annual losses due to corruption and theft by the regime's billionaires.
 

yllus

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For the record:

Huffington Post - How The Mubarak Family Made Its Billions

NEW YORK -- In his first speech to the country, the new president of Egypt promised "not to commit myself to what I cannot implement, hide the truth from the people, or be lenient with corruption and disorder."

That was Hosni Mubarak in 1981, taking the reins of his proud country in the wake of Anwar Sadat's assassination and expressing a determination to steer Egypt in a new direction. During a crackdown on profiteering by politically-connected wealthy businessmen, Sadat's half-brother and his sons were jailed and handed steep fines. Several dozen prominent members of Sadat's circle were slapped with criminal charges for misusing their power and other corrupt practices. Mubarak was known for his "rigid personal probity," according to a 1990 New York Times profile, which noted that "his family has not profited from his office."

But over the last 20 years, Mubarak, his family and his close circle of advisers have enriched themselves through partnerships in powerful Egyptian companies, profiting from their political power, according to numerous reports. The 82-year-old leader and his two sons also wield the levers of the government, including the military and the country's preeminent political party, to reward friends and punish enemies.

Mubarak -- who stepped down on Friday in the wake of massive protests that have gripped Cairo and Alexandria for weeks -- and his family have a net worth of at least $5 billion, analysts tell The Huffington Post. Recent media reports pegging the family fortune at between $40 and $70 billion are considered to be exaggerated.

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The Mubarak family reportedly owns properties around the world, from London and Paris to New York and Beverly Hills. In addition to homes in the Red Sea resort of Sharm al-Sheikh and the upscale Cairo district of Heliopolis, they also have a six-story mansion in the Knightsbridge section of London, a house near the Bois de Bologne in Paris and two yachts.

Largely through Mubarak's two sons, Gamal and Alaa, the family controls a network of companies that earn money through concessions wrangled from foreign companies that do business in Egypt, according to prominent businessmen and "Corruption In Egypt: The Black Cloud Is Not Disappearing," an investigative report compiled in 2006 by a coalition of opposition groups. (The report, which names the companies allegedly owned by the Mubarak brothers and details multiple instance of corruption by government officials, has been cited by numerous international good government groups, such as Transparency International, but it was taken offline and is no longer available on the Internet. The Huffington Post obtained a copy, replete with rhetorical flourishes and thinly-sourced allegations, which is available here.)

"Egypt's state under Mubarak's regime is an embodiment of corruption," concludes the report, with descriptions of numerous allegations of corruption involving bribery, undue influence and nepotism.

In the 1980s, Mubarak seemed sincere in his desire to crack down on corruption in an effort to distinguish himself from Sadat, says an Egyptian-American businessman who often does business in the country. "But as time went on, the cronies around him started taking advantage of the system," he says. "And the other factor was his children got into business, taking commissions out of each and every company that comes to Egypt. The way they have amassed that money is not by stealing but by ensuring that businesses that want to operate in Egypt pay from 5 percent to 20 percent commission to a company formed by Gamal Mubarak. I know businessmen who have been squeezed this way."

Some of the family's wealth is also believed to be through partnerships with foreign companies -- under Egyptian law, foreign businesses are required to give a local partners a 51-percent stake in their Egyptian operations. "According to this law, any multinational company needs to have a local sponsor, and this local sponsor usually goes through members of the family or powerful people in the ruling party," says Aladdin Elaasar, the author of "Last Pharaoh: Mubarak and the Uncertain Future."

And to reflect recent events...

Mubarak's Assets Frozen By Swiss Government

Switzerland has frozen assets that may belong to Hosni Mubarak, who stepped down as president of Egypt on Friday after 30 years of rule, the foreign ministry said.

"I can confirm that Switzerland has frozen possible assets of the former Egyptian president with immediate effect," spokesman Lars Knuchel said soon after Mubarak bowed to 18 days of mass protests. "As a result of this measure any assets are frozen for three years."

He did not say how much money was involved or where it was.

Assets belonging to Mubarak's associates would also be targeted so as to limit the chance of state funds being plundered, the ministry said. Mubarak and his associates would be prevented from selling or otherwise disposing of property, notably real estate.
 

CanOWorms

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There has been a lot of international pressure on the Swiss financial terrorism network, so it's not surprising that they're doing that. It's likely not on their own volition.