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Horse euthanized for broken shoulder @ Breeder's Cup

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RavenSEAL

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LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- Big Drama sapped the drama out of the $2 million Breeders' Cup Sprint, taking charge early and rolling to victory at Churchill Downs.

The 4-year-old bay covered six furlongs in 1:09.05, giving jockey Eibar Coa and trainer David Fawkes their first Breeders' Cup wins.

Big Drama, second in each of his last two starts, had little trouble putting away the rest of the 12-horse field. He broke cleanly and was never challenged, and paid $12.40 to win as the second choice behind favorite Girolama.

Hamazing Destiny held on for second, followed by Smiling Tiger.

Atta Boy Roy was pulled up after the race with an apparent injury to his right front leg. He loaded into the equine ambulance and driven off the track.

In the Juvenile Turf, Pluck rallied to win the $1 million race after another horse fell early in the race.

Pluck ran one mile in 1:36.98 under Garrett Gomez and paid $14.80 to win at Churchill Downs on Saturday. Soldat was second, followed by Willcox Inn and Madman Diaries.

Gomez and trainer Todd Pletcher completed a sweep of the juvenile turf races, teaming to win the $1 million Juvenile Fillies Turf on Friday.

Rough Sailing fell on the first turn and dropped jockey Rosie Napravnik to the turf. The horse ran on before being caught and vanned off. Napravnik bounced up and walked away.

Rough Sailing had to be euthanized shortly after because of a broken shoulder.

Workforce, the morning-line favorite, was scratched Saturday morning because his trainer said the turf course was too firm.
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WTF?! Can anyone explain this to me? Why the hell would you kill a poor animal because he broke a bone?!?! So if i break my shoulders, are the doctors gonna tell me they are gonna have to put me to sleep? WTF? D:
 
RavenSEAL said:
WTF?! Can anyone explain this to me? Why the hell would you kill a poor animal because he broke a bone?!?! So if i break my shoulders, are the doctors gonna tell me they are gonna have to put me to sleep? WTF? D:
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They can't do anything for them... I saw the fall actually.. but you cant put a horse in a cast and say "you cant walk on that" and them understand...
 
RavenSEAL said:
So if i break my shoulders, are the doctors gonna tell me they are gonna have to put me to sleep? WTF? D:
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You are not a beast, therefore you would be treated.

However, if you are an organ donor (and especially if you lack insurance), your "pieces" are fair game.
 
RavenSEAL said:
WTF?! Can anyone explain this to me? Why the hell would you kill a poor animal because he broke a bone?!?! So if i break my shoulders, are the doctors gonna tell me they are gonna have to put me to sleep? WTF? D:
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Only if we get lucky...anyone wanna volunteer to throw the OP off a building to see if we can make that happen?


Euthanizing horses is a necessity. Most never properly recover from broken bones.

Now if the medical profession would only apply such logic to humans.............
 
There should be a required course named "Common Sense". It would have to be taught early in high school before kids can voluntarily drop out.
 
boomerang said:
There should be a required course named "Common Sense". It would have to be taught early in high school before kids can voluntarily drop out.
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Like classical composing, art, and poetry, it seems to be innate, and quite rare. Impossible to really teach.
 
boomerang said:
There should be a required course named "Common Sense". It would have to be taught early in high school before kids can voluntarily drop out.
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So you're telling me there is nothing they could've done...absolutely nothing...?

These horses are treated like canned food, once you're done with it, it goes in the trash...
 
BoomerD said:
Only if we get lucky...anyone wanna volunteer to throw the OP off a building to see if we can make that happen?


Euthanizing horses is a necessity. Most never properly recover from broken bones.

Now if the medical profession would only apply such logic to humans.............
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Hmm, the solution to rising HealthCare Costs and Unemployment!

Walmart Greeter: Boss, I'm feeling sick and might have the Flu
...day passes Help Wanted sign posted
Unemployed Person: I'm here for the Greeter Job.
Walmart Manager: Great! We've been struggling since we had to put the last one Down. The Job is yours!
Unemployed Person: Sweet!
 
Even back in the old Wild West days, when horses were FAR more valuable, a horse with a broken leg was a lost cause. They had to shoot it.
Everyone knows this.
 
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RavenSEAL said:
So you're telling me there is nothing they could've done...absolutely nothing...?

These horses are treated like canned food, once you're done with it, it goes in the trash...
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They COULD have made meat out of it...horse meat is a viable source of protein, and is enjoyed in many countries.
 
RavenSEAL said:
So you're telling me there is nothing they could've done...absolutely nothing...?

These horses are treated like canned food, once you're done with it, it goes in the trash...
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Your answers have already been given. Can't put a cast on a horse, can't tell it to quit walking. These animals are worth a lot of money, do you think the owners would let them be euthanized if there were other options?

I'm close to throwing out some Obamacare analogies, so tread lightly if you don't want to read those. :whiste:
 
RavenSEAL said:
So you're telling me there is nothing they could've done...absolutely nothing...?

These horses are treated like canned food, once you're done with it, it goes in the trash...
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While it's regrettable, there's very little that can be done. You could sink thousands of dollars into trying to fix it, and still have to put it down. That would make the horses last weeks miserable before the inevitable came. On the human side, it'll never have value again. The best thing you could hope for is have it fixed enough for kiddie rides, but that type of horse isn't really suited for that purpose.
 
As an owner/trainer of thoroughbreds - it is one of the brutal realities of horse racing. The horses front legs are like vital organs. Essentially to keep blood flowing properly through their bodies they need to be standing. They cannot properly stand on 3 legs and a cast cannot take that much weight. If they were to lay down they would be unlikely be able to stand up again. Put in a sling only works for so long and as seen from the case with Barbaro they develop many health problems from not moving. Its really the only humane thing to do as to heal a shattered bone as is the cases with most horse racing injuries it would take too long and the horse would suffer immensely and never heal.

We had to put a horse down last year - he was coming back after a workout and reared up landing on his front leg awkwardly breaking it. Its a devastating decision and not done lightly.
 
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RavenSEAL said:
So you're telling me there is nothing they could've done...absolutely nothing...?
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Yes, you insistent ignoramus, we are. Now please stop stamping your tiny little feet and peeing yourself in uneducated outrage before we put you down, too.
 
I have been alarmed by this practice too, but I've come to learn that for how powerful horses are, they are extremely fragile animals.

It seems very common place to put them down for injuries that would be almost superficial to most other animals.

In short, no, there is nothing they could have done. What are they going to do, put the horse on tranquilizers and make it lay down for 2 months while it heals? lol...
 
Eli said:
I have been alarmed by this practice too, but I've come to learn that for how powerful horses are, they are extremely fragile animals.

It seems very common place to put them down for injuries that would be almost superficial to most other animals.

In short, no, there is nothing they could have done. What are they going to do, put the horse on tranquilizers and make it lay down for 2 months while it heals? lol...
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They can't. Horses die even if they're laying down too long giving birth. Horses must remain upright. You'd have to put the horse in a full sling and, even then, the repaired joint wouldn't likely be strong enough to hold the weight until muscles have atrophied.

Catch 22 🙁
 
Perknose said:
Yes, you insistent ignoramus, we are. Now please stop stamping your tiny little feet and peeing yourself in uneducated outrage before we put you down, too.
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Honest question...do you have something against me? If so, would you please care to list the reasons why you have such "dislike" of me? You might own these forums, but it doesn't it's morally right to put people down as you please...
 
Nik said:
They can't. Horses die even if they're laying down too long giving birth. Horses must remain upright. You'd have to put the horse in a full sling and, even then, the repaired joint wouldn't likely be strong enough to hold the weight until muscles have atrophied.

Catch 22 🙁
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Yeah, I know.. That was my point. 😛

There's just nothing they can do. They're too big and fragile to heal properly with such an injury.

What an interesting thing it would be to be so powerful, yet have such profound weaknesses. Imagine if we felt impending death every time we layed down...
 
RavenSEAL said:
Honest question...do you have something against me? If so, would you please care to list the reasons why you have such "dislike" of me? You might own these forums, but it doesn't it's morally right to put people down as you please...
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When 4-5 of the immediate posters tell you exactly why and you still don't get it sometimes the point needs to be pounded home.
 
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