Hoobastank

[GigaCluster]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
you know that vocal sound they use in electronica sometimes where it makes them sound kinda computerized? this is the same thing, only slightly less obvious. basically it corrects pitch in singers who can't sing on pitch. if a singer is pretty much accurate, you can't hear it working, and it just helps to fix a note or two where they got a little off. but when a singer is really bad, Auto-Tune has to work overtime, and you can hear it clearly. probably 90% of the vocals in modern mainstream music gets run through Auto-Tune these days, which is ok, but when it gets obtrusive, it's distracting and takes away from the music.

but hey, if you don't mind listening to a computer program desperately trying to fix no-talent hacks, be my guest.

I've decided to listen to the song again, and I absolutely cannot tell when Auto-Tune was used. Their voice sounds natural throughout the whole song. Can you perhaps point to certain positions (in time) when the coverup is relatively obvious?

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
i'll quote myself:

hoobastankubus sucks and should be put on trial for pushing nu-metal cancer through guitars known for their perfect tone therefore completely making having it worthless

This man does not speak the truth.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: GigaCluster

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
you know that vocal sound they use in electronica sometimes where it makes them sound kinda computerized? this is the same thing, only slightly less obvious. basically it corrects pitch in singers who can't sing on pitch. if a singer is pretty much accurate, you can't hear it working, and it just helps to fix a note or two where they got a little off. but when a singer is really bad, Auto-Tune has to work overtime, and you can hear it clearly. probably 90% of the vocals in modern mainstream music gets run through Auto-Tune these days, which is ok, but when it gets obtrusive, it's distracting and takes away from the music.

but hey, if you don't mind listening to a computer program desperately trying to fix no-talent hacks, be my guest.

I've decided to listen to the song again, and I absolutely cannot tell when Auto-Tune was used. Their voice sounds natural throughout the whole song. Can you perhaps point to certain positions (in time) when the coverup is relatively obvious?

No, he read someone elses opinion on it and he went from there. Maybe the one who said it can help you but thomsbrag won't tell you who it was, he will tell you it was him and give you some more phony info he googled up.

 

[FuZoR]

I liked it back in november...
then after the zillion time they played it on radio/tv.. i change the station/channel.

it's nice song

 

[Kadarin]

It's not a bad song; I might actually like it if it weren't on Clear Channel's heavy rotation schedule.

 

[drum]

Originally posted by: Ness

Originally posted by: thomsbrainthe thing that i really hate about hoobastank's reason is you can clearly hear the Antares Auto-Tune they put on the vocals in a pitiful attempt to make the singer sound on-key.

Yeah. Totally. I have no clue what the hell that is but that's what I listen for in a song.

i can't speak for thomsbrain, but as a musician, i listen to music differently than normal person does. I just hear different things most people miss, especially percussively.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: GigaCluster

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
you know that vocal sound they use in electronica sometimes where it makes them sound kinda computerized? this is the same thing, only slightly less obvious. basically it corrects pitch in singers who can't sing on pitch. if a singer is pretty much accurate, you can't hear it working, and it just helps to fix a note or two where they got a little off. but when a singer is really bad, Auto-Tune has to work overtime, and you can hear it clearly. probably 90% of the vocals in modern mainstream music gets run through Auto-Tune these days, which is ok, but when it gets obtrusive, it's distracting and takes away from the music.

but hey, if you don't mind listening to a computer program desperately trying to fix no-talent hacks, be my guest.

I've decided to listen to the song again, and I absolutely cannot tell when Auto-Tune was used. Their voice sounds natural throughout the whole song. Can you perhaps point to certain positions (in time) when the coverup is relatively obvious?

No, he read someone elses opinion on it and he went from there. Maybe the one who said it can help you but thomsbrag won't tell you who it was, he will tell you it was him and give you some more phony info he googled up.

Have you heard a live version of "The Reason"? I'm sorry but regardless of whether you like them or not, it's painfully obvious auto-tune was used. I'm sure you've been to your (favorite band goes here) concert - depending on what type of music, they sound at least relatively the same. The Reason when sung live with no magic man behind the controls was god awful. Even "I'm not a perfect persoooooon" sounded awful. Their Pepsi Smash performance was hideous. Think I'm just a Hoobastank hater? They're on Leno Monday June the 14th. I don't know if that's the song they're performing but you have a chance to hear for yourself how auto-tuned the radio/album version of "The Reason" really is.

BTW, I have their self titled and Basketball Shorts CDs, so I'm not just some random Hoobastank hater I liked them when they were actually decent, although I've always thought of them as Incubus rip offs.

 

[GigaCluster]

I have never heard them live, but I am ready to believe you after hearing Cher's godawful performance at VH1 Divas show last year, as well as after watching a music video of Creed's "Higher" performed live on New Year 2000.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: Elitebull
It's the only semi-decent song* on the album, the rest of it is just crap.




*probably because it's more alternative-sounding and therefore... (gasp)... different than their usual stuff

EDIT: misplaced asterisk

careful, i said the same thing and got flamed.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: Ness

Originally posted by: thomsbrainthe thing that i really hate about hoobastank's reason is you can clearly hear the Antares Auto-Tune they put on the vocals in a pitiful attempt to make the singer sound on-key.

Yeah. Totally. I have no clue what the hell that is but that's what I listen for in a song.

you know that vocal sound they use in electronica sometimes where it makes them sound kinda computerized? this is the same thing, only slightly less obvious. basically it corrects pitch in singers who can't sing on pitch. if a singer is pretty much accurate, you can't hear it working, and it just helps to fix a note or two where they got a little off. but when a singer is really bad, Auto-Tune has to work overtime, and you can hear it clearly. probably 90% of the vocals in modern mainstream music gets run through Auto-Tune these days, which is ok, but when it gets obtrusive, it's distracting and takes away from the music.

but hey, if you don't mind listening to a computer program desperately trying to fix no-talent hacks, be my guest.

also the song is compressed, lacks clarity, and half the transients are clipped off, and it's audible in some parts.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: brigden
I like the song and the video, but it's way too overplayed. However, it's better than hearing "Clocks" and "Hey Ya" constantly.

um, clocks came out in 2001.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: GigaCluster

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
you know that vocal sound they use in electronica sometimes where it makes them sound kinda computerized? this is the same thing, only slightly less obvious. basically it corrects pitch in singers who can't sing on pitch. if a singer is pretty much accurate, you can't hear it working, and it just helps to fix a note or two where they got a little off. but when a singer is really bad, Auto-Tune has to work overtime, and you can hear it clearly. probably 90% of the vocals in modern mainstream music gets run through Auto-Tune these days, which is ok, but when it gets obtrusive, it's distracting and takes away from the music.

but hey, if you don't mind listening to a computer program desperately trying to fix no-talent hacks, be my guest.

I've decided to listen to the song again, and I absolutely cannot tell when Auto-Tune was used. Their voice sounds natural throughout the whole song. Can you perhaps point to certain positions (in time) when the coverup is relatively obvious?

No, he read someone elses opinion on it and he went from there. Maybe the one who said it can help you but thomsbrag won't tell you who it was, he will tell you it was him and give you some more phony info he googled up.

Have you heard a live version of "The Reason"? I'm sorry but regardless of whether you like them or not, it's painfully obvious auto-tune was used. I'm sure you've been to your (favorite band goes here) concert - depending on what type of music, they sound at least relatively the same. The Reason when sung live with no magic man behind the controls was god awful. Even "I'm not a perfect persoooooon" sounded awful. Their Pepsi Smash performance was hideous. Think I'm just a Hoobastank hater? They're on Leno Monday June the 14th. I don't know if that's the song they're performing but you have a chance to hear for yourself how auto-tuned the radio/album version of "The Reason" really is.

BTW, I have their self titled and Basketball Shorts CDs, so I'm not just some random Hoobastank hater I liked them when they were actually decent, although I've always thought of them as Incubus rip offs.

Actually, i have used Autotune in some instances and yes i have heard them live, have you heard old Iron Maiden live vs recordings? Did they use autotune before it existed?

If you are stupid enough to believe that the sound in a studio isn't different to the sound live then that is your problem and you are obviously wrong. Otherwise every record would have a faked leading voice. (not to mention the drums or the bass).

 

[RagingBITCH]

Oh yea - there's an acoustic version of The Reason on Kazaa - the 91X Garage version they did live. The guy can barely hit the right notes, and when he does it's for like a brief second. He doesn't try to hold the note like he did in the Smash Performance or on the album. There's a few parts that sounds like the album version but I kinda cringe listening to this version. Especially when he says "me" or "be".

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: GigaCluster

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
you know that vocal sound they use in electronica sometimes where it makes them sound kinda computerized? this is the same thing, only slightly less obvious. basically it corrects pitch in singers who can't sing on pitch. if a singer is pretty much accurate, you can't hear it working, and it just helps to fix a note or two where they got a little off. but when a singer is really bad, Auto-Tune has to work overtime, and you can hear it clearly. probably 90% of the vocals in modern mainstream music gets run through Auto-Tune these days, which is ok, but when it gets obtrusive, it's distracting and takes away from the music.

but hey, if you don't mind listening to a computer program desperately trying to fix no-talent hacks, be my guest.

I've decided to listen to the song again, and I absolutely cannot tell when Auto-Tune was used. Their voice sounds natural throughout the whole song. Can you perhaps point to certain positions (in time) when the coverup is relatively obvious?

No, he read someone elses opinion on it and he went from there. Maybe the one who said it can help you but thomsbrag won't tell you who it was, he will tell you it was him and give you some more phony info he googled up.

Have you heard a live version of "The Reason"? I'm sorry but regardless of whether you like them or not, it's painfully obvious auto-tune was used. I'm sure you've been to your (favorite band goes here) concert - depending on what type of music, they sound at least relatively the same. The Reason when sung live with no magic man behind the controls was god awful. Even "I'm not a perfect persoooooon" sounded awful. Their Pepsi Smash performance was hideous. Think I'm just a Hoobastank hater? They're on Leno Monday June the 14th. I don't know if that's the song they're performing but you have a chance to hear for yourself how auto-tuned the radio/album version of "The Reason" really is.

BTW, I have their self titled and Basketball Shorts CDs, so I'm not just some random Hoobastank hater I liked them when they were actually decent, although I've always thought of them as Incubus rip offs.

Actually, i have used Autotune in some instances and yes i have heard them live, have you heard old Iron Maiden live vs recordings? Did they use autotune before it existed?

If you are stupid enough to believe that the sound in a studio isn't different to the sound live then that is your problem and you are obviously wrong. Otherwise every record would have a faked leading voice. (not to mention the drums or the bass).

Where the hell did I say the sound in a studio isn't different from the sound live? I even said that above - they sound relatively the same although they are obvious differences. Might want to try reading. There's a difference b/t sounding awful live and sounding different live. Seems like you're the stupid one.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Oh yea - there's an acoustic version of The Reason on Kazaa - the 91X Garage version they did live. The guy can barely hit the right notes, and when he does it's for like a brief second. He doesn't try to hold the note like he did in the Smash Performance or on the album. There's a few parts that sounds like the album version but I kinda cringe listening to this version. Especially when he says "me" or "be".

I have a garage version of Metallica where his voice sounds like sh!t, i assume they do the same thing?

Not to mention AC/DC, i saw them live on Ullevi in Sweden a few years ago, i assume they do the same thing too, and so does Iron Maiden?

Come the fvck on, early garage recordings compared to studio recordings?

Please tell me you are joking, you can't be that dense, can you?

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: GigaCluster

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
you know that vocal sound they use in electronica sometimes where it makes them sound kinda computerized? this is the same thing, only slightly less obvious. basically it corrects pitch in singers who can't sing on pitch. if a singer is pretty much accurate, you can't hear it working, and it just helps to fix a note or two where they got a little off. but when a singer is really bad, Auto-Tune has to work overtime, and you can hear it clearly. probably 90% of the vocals in modern mainstream music gets run through Auto-Tune these days, which is ok, but when it gets obtrusive, it's distracting and takes away from the music.

but hey, if you don't mind listening to a computer program desperately trying to fix no-talent hacks, be my guest.

I've decided to listen to the song again, and I absolutely cannot tell when Auto-Tune was used. Their voice sounds natural throughout the whole song. Can you perhaps point to certain positions (in time) when the coverup is relatively obvious?

No, he read someone elses opinion on it and he went from there. Maybe the one who said it can help you but thomsbrag won't tell you who it was, he will tell you it was him and give you some more phony info he googled up.

Have you heard a live version of "The Reason"? I'm sorry but regardless of whether you like them or not, it's painfully obvious auto-tune was used. I'm sure you've been to your (favorite band goes here) concert - depending on what type of music, they sound at least relatively the same. The Reason when sung live with no magic man behind the controls was god awful. Even "I'm not a perfect persoooooon" sounded awful. Their Pepsi Smash performance was hideous. Think I'm just a Hoobastank hater? They're on Leno Monday June the 14th. I don't know if that's the song they're performing but you have a chance to hear for yourself how auto-tuned the radio/album version of "The Reason" really is.

BTW, I have their self titled and Basketball Shorts CDs, so I'm not just some random Hoobastank hater I liked them when they were actually decent, although I've always thought of them as Incubus rip offs.

Actually, i have used Autotune in some instances and yes i have heard them live, have you heard old Iron Maiden live vs recordings? Did they use autotune before it existed?

If you are stupid enough to believe that the sound in a studio isn't different to the sound live then that is your problem and you are obviously wrong. Otherwise every record would have a faked leading voice. (not to mention the drums or the bass).

Where the hell did I say the sound in a studio isn't different from the sound live? I even said that above - they sound relatively the same although they are obvious differences. Might want to try reading. There's a difference b/t sounding awful live and sounding different live. Seems like you're the stupid one.

Chill out little one. I am just saying that i have seen them live and the difference isn't bigger than other bands comparing live to studio.

Get it?

 

[TheShiz]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: GigaCluster

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
you know that vocal sound they use in electronica sometimes where it makes them sound kinda computerized? this is the same thing, only slightly less obvious. basically it corrects pitch in singers who can't sing on pitch. if a singer is pretty much accurate, you can't hear it working, and it just helps to fix a note or two where they got a little off. but when a singer is really bad, Auto-Tune has to work overtime, and you can hear it clearly. probably 90% of the vocals in modern mainstream music gets run through Auto-Tune these days, which is ok, but when it gets obtrusive, it's distracting and takes away from the music.

but hey, if you don't mind listening to a computer program desperately trying to fix no-talent hacks, be my guest.

I've decided to listen to the song again, and I absolutely cannot tell when Auto-Tune was used. Their voice sounds natural throughout the whole song. Can you perhaps point to certain positions (in time) when the coverup is relatively obvious?

No, he read someone elses opinion on it and he went from there. Maybe the one who said it can help you but thomsbrag won't tell you who it was, he will tell you it was him and give you some more phony info he googled up.

Have you heard a live version of "The Reason"? I'm sorry but regardless of whether you like them or not, it's painfully obvious auto-tune was used. I'm sure you've been to your (favorite band goes here) concert - depending on what type of music, they sound at least relatively the same. The Reason when sung live with no magic man behind the controls was god awful. Even "I'm not a perfect persoooooon" sounded awful. Their Pepsi Smash performance was hideous. Think I'm just a Hoobastank hater? They're on Leno Monday June the 14th. I don't know if that's the song they're performing but you have a chance to hear for yourself how auto-tuned the radio/album version of "The Reason" really is.

BTW, I have their self titled and Basketball Shorts CDs, so I'm not just some random Hoobastank hater I liked them when they were actually decent, although I've always thought of them as Incubus rip offs.

who cares if auto-tune was used or not? its just a tool, there are a ton of singers that benefit tons from studio production, all that really matters is how much the end product sells, and in that arena hoobastank is doing fine. I think someone is jealous. I'm not a hoobastank fan, I don't like much new music. (read somewhere that the music you listen to from 13-22 is the music you will like your whole life, and I'm starting to believe it) If you are truely concerned with hearing really talented voices you should probably listen to classical and opera singers, they actually have to project their voices (no mics), thus what you hear is completely unprocessed.

 

[rh71]

it's too mono-toned throughout for me. I like a hard chorus part here and there... but at least the song isn't that annoying like the others (like Simple Plan - thank God they went away for a while now)

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: rh71
it's too mono-toned throughout for me. I like a hard chorus part here and there... but at least the song isn't that annoying like the others (like Simple Plan - thank God they went away for a while now)

you missed a bunch of pics in that new batch of j alba stuff:beer:

 

[Doggiedog]

Mentioned it here.

People didn't seem to like it.

 

[Valhalla1]

hoobastank played at the college here couple months back.. decent show.. had never heard of them before i went =/

 

[CtK]

they sounded pretty good on Pepsi Smash last week

and if u like a song u like it
dont matter what other ppl think!!

 

[dmcowen674]

They remind me of when I had my band 28 years ago.

 

[vshah]

Originally posted by: ohtwell
I love this song, and the video is pretty good.


: ) Amanda

i agree

-Vivan

 

[PCboy]

Hmm, so it strikes AT as well.. all of my friends become dazzled by this song.. I must admit, it was nice for the first.. thirty times, being played but as soon as it became popular.. sigh. It came out in 2003. It's June 2004. Sheesh.