HONEST>>>US Govt. planned to **MURDER AMERICANS** so they could go to war<<<

dahunan

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Book: U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba

By David Ruppe

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/jointchiefs_010501.html

N E W Y O R K, May 1 ? In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.


Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban &eacute;migr&eacute;s, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.
The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro.

America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."

Details of the plans are described in Body of Secrets (Doubleday), a new book by investigative reporter James Bamford about the history of America's largest spy agency, the National Security Agency. However, the plans were not connected to the agency, he notes.

The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years.

"These were Joint Chiefs of Staff documents. The reason these were held secret for so long is the Joint Chiefs never wanted to give these up because they were so embarrassing," Bamford told ABCNEWS.com.

"The whole point of a democracy is to have leaders responding to the public will, and here this is the complete reverse, the military trying to trick the American people into a war that they want but that nobody else wants."

Gunning for War

The documents show "the Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up and approved plans for what may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government," writes Bamford.

The Joint Chiefs even proposed using the potential death of astronaut John Glenn during the first attempt to put an American into orbit as a false pretext for war with Cuba, the documents show.

Should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, they wrote, "the objective is to provide irrevocable proof ? that the fault lies with the Communists et all Cuba [sic]."


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Orsorum

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Don't you know, that's all a liberal conspiracy! Our government has never done anything bad.

Cheers!
Nate
 

Ultima

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maybe 40 years from now we'll read a book on how 9/11 was orchestrated in order to provoke a war against the middle east
 

drewshin

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yeah, but by that time everyone responsible would be dead, so they're not worrying.
 

glugglug

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Hmmm, Operation Northwood, Prescott Bush..... does Intel use this stuff for their naming strategy?
 

sMiLeYz

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Originally posted by: CPA
some of you people make me laugh

I'm glad you find us all so amusing.

You know what, 4 years ago I was almost infailable supporter of American ideals, government, and American foreign policy. Heck, I hate to admit it, but I defended America's position on Iraq before the war begin on some international bulletin boards. But my faith in the American institution has been very much shaken since then by George W. Bush, among other things. Stuff like this if it was true, hardly suprises me anymore.
 
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Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Originally posted by: CPA
some of you people make me laugh

I'm glad you find us all so amusing.

You know what, 4 years ago I was almost infailable supporter of American ideals, government, and American foreign policy. Heck, I hate to admit it, but I defended America's position on Iraq before the war begin on some international bulletin boards. But my faith in the American institution has been very much shaken since then by George W. Bush, among other things. Stuff like this if it was true, hardly suprises me anymore.

You're too easily swayed by media hype then.
 

alchemize

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Gee, the parallels are disturbing
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You do know that the US government (and all governments) were much nastier 40 years ago right? Try rolling it back another 40 years and take a look. And another 40.
 

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Originally posted by: alchemize

You do know that the US government (and all governments) were much nastier 40 years ago right? Try rolling it back another 40 years and take a look. And another 40.

Is that a joke? Or do you suffer for cranial-rectal inversion?
 
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Originally posted by: glugglug
Originally posted by: alchemize

You do know that the US government (and all governments) were much nastier 40 years ago right? Try rolling it back another 40 years and take a look. And another 40.

Is that a joke? Or do you suffer for cranial-rectal inversion?

Oooooo, somebody picked up a clever phrase and felt like dropping it, didn't he?
 
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It baffles me how people can dismiss this so easily. Here it is, in black and white, in all its factual glory, our government plotting to kill Americans (John Glenn by name for Christ's sake) to further their own agenda. Given we have now arguabley the most secretive administration in our country's history sitting during 2 wars and the largest terrorist attack on American soil I am doubley baffled. Nothing is out of the realm of possibilities as far as our government is concerned. To refute this or blame it on media hype is absolutely absurd and the kind of dangerous attitude that allows our government to concoct such plans. This is the very reason we as the people of this country must tolerate no less than a completely transparent government, or a government by the people, for the people can not exist.
 

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Gluggglug:

Alchemize is probably right and that's too bad. America has had a rough sense of justice for a long long time....

-Robert
 

Dari

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This was a military idea, not a democratic creature? The military is not democratic, or am I wrong? And it was stopped at the democratic/civilian level. This never reached fruitation.
 

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Hmmm, Operation Northwood, Prescott Bush..... does Intel use this stuff for their naming strategy?
some kind of lame effort to smear the President?

Gee..you know what, Democrats where in the White House (Kennedy and Johnson) when this "plan" was hatched
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
It baffles me how people can dismiss this so easily. Here it is, in black and white, in all its factual glory, our government plotting to kill Americans (John Glenn by name for Christ's sake) to further their own agenda. Given we have now arguabley the most secretive administration in our country's history sitting during 2 wars and the largest terrorist attack on American soil I am doubley baffled. Nothing is out of the realm of possibilities as far as our government is concerned. To refute this or blame it on media hype is absolutely absurd and the kind of dangerous attitude that allows our government to concoct such plans. This is the very reason we as the people of this country must tolerate no less than a completely transparent government, or a government by the people, for the people can not exist.
Whatever Gonad you go ahead and keep chasing rainbows with the trolls dahunan and glugglug. Maybe Flyermax will make it a 4some and you can toss in the anti-christ and make your own little cult called "The Anandtech Tinfoil Club".

PS: Anyone what plan Kennedy ultimately ended up accepting? that lil ole bay of pigs fiasco?
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: chess9
Gluggglug:

Alchemize is probably right and that's too bad. America has had a rough sense of justice for a long long time....

-Robert

As opposed to say, Germany? France? England? Spain? Portugal? Russia? Japan? Saudi Arabia?

HUMANITY has had a rough sense of justice for a long time.
 

chess9

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Alchemize:

Actually, I wouldn't disagree, though it pains me not to be able to do so.

-Robert
 
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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
It baffles me how people can dismiss this so easily. Here it is, in black and white, in all its factual glory, our government plotting to kill Americans (John Glenn by name for Christ's sake) to further their own agenda. Given we have now arguabley the most secretive administration in our country's history sitting during 2 wars and the largest terrorist attack on American soil I am doubley baffled. Nothing is out of the realm of possibilities as far as our government is concerned. To refute this or blame it on media hype is absolutely absurd and the kind of dangerous attitude that allows our government to concoct such plans. This is the very reason we as the people of this country must tolerate no less than a completely transparent government, or a government by the people, for the people can not exist.
Whatever Gonad you go ahead and keep chasing rainbows with the trolls dahunan and glugglug. Maybe Flyermax will make it a 4some and you can toss in the anti-christ and make your own little cult called "The Anandtech Tinfoil Club".

PS: Anyone what plan Kennedy ultimately ended up accepting? that lil ole bay of pigs fiasco?

WTF exactly is so outlandish in my post? This is not a conspiracy theory, it is a cold, hard conspiracy FACT. If you feel comfortable allowing our government the ability to secretly conduct such treasonous business then you are as un-American as one can get.