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Honest Question: What's the natural reason for female orgasms?

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Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: Malak
They are both for enjoyment.
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It should be for more than enjoyment. Enjoyment isn't and end in itself, or shouldn't be.
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Why not?
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If such a thing existed in nature (enjoyment as an end in and of itself), then animals would waste their time doing that.
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Bonobo monkeys and dolphins waste their time, then.
 
Originally posted by: silverpig
During the female orgasm the cervix spasms such that it is "dipped" downwards into the pool of semen that hopefully has been deposited by a man.
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This has been challenged in recent years, but I'm not sure if the rebuttal is any good.
 
Originally posted by: Narmer
Men's is for ejaculation so as to reproduce. What's the reason for female orgasm?
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actually, I would say it is for reproduction as well. I was watching the discovery channel or something at 3 in the morning and the show said that women are more likely to get pregnant when they have an orgasm.

I think it is a gift from God myself.
 
I've heard that the clitoris could simply be a vestigal thing, like nipples on males. This is always shot down by the die-hard feminists, who insist that it not be classified as "vestigal." So what if it is that? It can still be a damn good thing to have, right? It's vestigal, nature got a bit lazy - "Yeah, leave the nipples on the males. Sex organs....yeah, leave that little bit of erectile tissue there. And all the nerves too, no harm there." Enjoy nature's freebie.🙂

I also agree that female orgasms do help with encouraging procreation. If both parties have a desire to mate, versus just the male really wanting to, that greatly improves the chances of multiple matings, which means more offspring. Natural selection at work.
 
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: silverpig
During the female orgasm the cervix spasms such that it is "dipped" downwards into the pool of semen that hopefully has been deposited by a man.
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This has been challenged in recent years, but I'm not sure if the rebuttal is any good.
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I was watching one of those sex documentaries on discovery or TLC (back when it was actually good) and they have an "inside cam" view where it was pretty obvious.
 
Originally posted by: HotChic
The motion and angles help get the semen where it's supposed to go in order for it to fertelize the egg.
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clearly not absolutely necessary however 😉
 
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: silverpig
During the female orgasm the cervix spasms such that it is "dipped" downwards into the pool of semen that hopefully has been deposited by a man.
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This has been challenged in recent years, but I'm not sure if the rebuttal is any good.
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I was watching one of those sex documentaries on discovery or TLC (back when it was actually good) and they have an "inside cam" view where it was pretty obvious.
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Sorry, I should have been a bit more specific. The challenge is not that the spasms do happen, but that it does anything useful. This is mainly related to concerns about the quality of the studies done on this.

Also, from Dr. Elisabeth A. Lloyd(this leads in to Jeff7's point):
Q: ?I have seen video on the discovery channel of what happens during a female orgasm. The cervix dips into the semen pool and sucks in the sperm into the womb, hence helping to reproduce. So what are you talking about??

A: Don?t be sucked in. This is not actually a film of ?sperm upsuck? into the cervix, as the narrator claims in the film. This seems to be a case of showing one thing, and describing another, according to an endowed chair in sexual physiology at a top research institution who was involved in the production of the show. The cervix does move during the uterine contractions of orgasm, and thus can be seen here moving further into the ?tenting? that develops at the end of the vagina just before orgasm. So you see the moving cervix; the narrator supplies a description that is not verified - saying that the cervix is sucking the semen in, at the same time that you see it dipping.

If that film really had shown sperm upsuck, as it said - or, in fact, anything at all suggesting a correlation involving orgasm and fertility - it would have created a sensation in the world of sex research and evolutionary studies. People have been trying unsuccessfully to demonstrate sperm upsuck since 1950 (Lloyd 2005, pp. 179-219), and such a decisive finding would have been celebrated. The film was deceptively narrated, and unfortunately the audience had no way of knowing that it did not show what it purported to show. I cannot estimate how many emails from around the world I have received telling me that I am 'stupid' or worse, based on this deceptive TV show!
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Originally posted by: Narmer
Men's is for ejaculation so as to reproduce. What's the reason for female orgasm?
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Get a girl friend(s), use protection to take pregnancy out of the picture (and STDS) and figure it out.
 
In my experience, when a girl climaxes she experiences spasms in her abdominal area. I doubt that the cervix literally "sucks the sperm in deeper," but I do know that after orgasm it takes a lot longer for it to drip out.
 
Originally posted by: slimrhcp
In my experience, when a girl climaxes she experiences spasms in her abdominal area. I doubt that the cervix literally "sucks the sperm in deeper," but I do know that after orgasm it takes a lot longer for it to drip out.
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move lower it sounds like you might be in the belly button 🙂

 
Originally posted by: silverpig
During the female orgasm the cervix spasms such that it is "dipped" downwards into the pool of semen that hopefully has been deposited by a man.
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I think this is the best answer.

The best answer can't be "for her enjoyment so she'll do it" becuase for centuries there was no emphasis on the female orgasm/female pleasure. I think that is a recent thing.
 
Originally posted by: bctbct
Originally posted by: slimrhcp
In my experience, when a girl climaxes she experiences spasms in her lower abdominal area. I doubt that the cervix literally "sucks the sperm in deeper," but I do know that after orgasm it takes a lot longer for it to drip out.
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move lower it sounds like you might be in the belly button 🙂
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fixed
 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: silverpig
During the female orgasm the cervix spasms such that it is "dipped" downwards into the pool of semen that hopefully has been deposited by a man.
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I think this is the best answer.

The best answer can't be "for her enjoyment so she'll do it" becuase for centuries there was no emphasis on the female orgasm/female pleasure. I think that is a recent thing.
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Sex is about enjoyment...to get you to want to procreate.

For centuries the female has been looked at as more of a pack mule than equal.

politics <> science.

There were several periods of times females felt guilty because they were actually enjoying what was being forced upon them (not that many were probably fighting it 😉).

One of the best traits about women, and I look at them as a equal to men; is that they learn their role dealt out to them a lot better than men. A man will often fight himself to death in something he doesn't agree with but has no ability to change. A woman will learn to adapt and work it out to her advantage a lot of time and at the very least use her presence to minimize the damages. That very same women will usually fight at first, but learns when the fight is over and moving on begins.

 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: silverpig
During the female orgasm the cervix spasms such that it is "dipped" downwards into the pool of semen that hopefully has been deposited by a man.
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I think this is the best answer.

The best answer can't be "for her enjoyment so she'll do it" becuase for centuries there was no emphasis on the female orgasm/female pleasure. I think that is a recent thing.
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That must be it then.
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: Malak
They are both for enjoyment.
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It should be for more than enjoyment. Enjoyment isn't and end in itself, or shouldn't be.
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If it didn't feel good for both parties why would we bother to reproduce?
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An anology to what I'm saying is like having a button on your body that would give you free pleasure with zero consequences except wasted energy. It's a pleasure button, nothing more. If we had that, then we'd play with that all day and not have to suffer the consequences.
 
Originally posted by: slimrhcp
In my experience, when a girl climaxes she experiences spasms in her abdominal area. I doubt that the cervix literally "sucks the sperm in deeper," but I do know that after orgasm it takes a lot longer for it to drip out.
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I don't get this post at all...sounds like something out of a book.

How did you deduce this? Because I know not all chicks I have been with climaxed, but in those cases I wasn't really checking things out down there or in the bed and more often than not it was not inside her anyway. Once you get to know a chick you learn what she needs to get "her's", many women do just fine with intercourse, but some need more direct treatment or prefer it. If she is jumping out of bed due to another failed attempt to climax to go post on her MySpace, chances are she will leak...if she is now thrilled and wants to wrap around you chances are it's not going anywhere. 🙂

A lot of the women I have been with (I am in my mid 30's now and married for the last 4) actually wanted me to get them off first so they can focus on me rather than worry something will happen too fast and they get nothing.

If I got to know them better, they learned that I was not about being one-sided or just wanting to get to the quick parts. For one, if a guy really just wants to get some....it's not hard. It's going to require you approach a chick though, and be entertaining...you don't have to be a stand-up comic or literary genius. Keeping her talking, smiling, laughing, asking questions is what it's about. There are women out there that just are looking for hot guys, but most are looking for an experience....not just wham bamm thank you ma'am. A typical night for me when single would be probably dancing with some woman on the floor first. Playing up to the song just not trying to grind up on her. After a song or two, go have a drink together if it was good and talk a bit. More dancing, more drinking, leave together...

None of this was about making babies...however, the female really wants to experience those feelings. In a 'natural' world, that would make for a better chance at babies. Orgasms for both male and female encourages those two to make more males and females...that is the reason. A guy's climax is not that important for making a baby....if it just dribbled out inside a woman it would still be pretty viable.

Sex aside though, I think touch is important to all higher level animals (humans). It brings us together and encourages us to work towards a common goal.
 
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: Malak
They are both for enjoyment.
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It should be for more than enjoyment. Enjoyment isn't and end in itself, or shouldn't be.
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If it didn't feel good for both parties why would we bother to reproduce?
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An anology to what I'm saying is like having a button on your body that would give you free pleasure with zero consequences except wasted energy. It's a pleasure button, nothing more. If we had that, then we'd play with that all day and not have to suffer the consequences.
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Because we are naturally social creatures. We want to interact with other people. You can try to debate that if you'd like, but if it were not true you would have never created an account here and posted your first thread.

This is also where the debate on whether same sex or opposite blurs the picture once you take out reproduction. I like women. I don't care if someone else likes whatever, if both parties are in agreement or happy.
 
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