Honest, hard working people getting screwed over by the system
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WTF?? I wasn't aware that there was a need to entice foreign investment in the United States or attract more immigrants (like the three billion we already have trying to get into the country aren't enough?). Another federal program that has no legitimate value and needs to be sh-t canned.
As for the families that may be deported, that's a tough break and all, because it seems like they may have been good people, but don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!
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Lifer
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US immigration policy is based on 1800's era "unsettled continent" . The continent is settled. We now live in a country that has an overloaded infrastructure. We import half our oil, the electrical grid is near blackout/brownout and we now face severe water shortages in our western states. So on top of this overloaded infrastructure why are we still pretending to be an "unsettled continent"?? May be a symptom of a failing political system of three piece suits,toupees and polished teeth whose only concern is getting elected.
I don't believe anyone thinks the US is an "unsettled continent" today, or even 10 years ago. Actually, if you read carefully, it seems like this was a way to stimulate the lagging US economy of the early 90s. This policy was implemented to encourage foreign investment, with citizenship as their reward.
A million dollar total investment, or half a million in stagnant economic areas, and the creation of 10 jobs held by US citizens. And obviously, these new immigrants will have to pay for housing, buy common items, and pay taxes. I don't know about you, but that sounds like a good deal for any local economy. The end of the article also quotes a seattle official who is on the side of the immigrants. And why not? These immigrants have injected millions of dollars into the local economy and created hundreds of jobs. If I was the mayor the seattle, I'd tell the INS to piss off.
Ok, I can understand if the INS wants to investigate whether or not these immigrants actually inject half a million dollars and created 10 jobs. But to retroactively apply modifications (saying that immigrants now need to create their own company instead of merely investing)to previously accepted members is trickery at best. Even worse, it's playing with people's lives. Not to mention what this will do for our economy. The article mentions about 850 immigrants that were allowed through this program. So that's 425.5 million dollars the INS wants to take OUT of the US economy, as well as 8500 newly unemployed US citizens.
Now maybe if the economy was doing great, then I can justify it by saying that the US government is run by lying bastards. But this doesn't even make any sense! They might as well take money and burn it in the streets.
dfi
A million dollar total investment, or half a million in stagnant economic areas, and the creation of 10 jobs held by US citizens. And obviously, these new immigrants will have to pay for housing, buy common items, and pay taxes. I don't know about you, but that sounds like a good deal for any local economy. The end of the article also quotes a seattle official who is on the side of the immigrants. And why not? These immigrants have injected millions of dollars into the local economy and created hundreds of jobs. If I was the mayor the seattle, I'd tell the INS to piss off.
Ok, I can understand if the INS wants to investigate whether or not these immigrants actually inject half a million dollars and created 10 jobs. But to retroactively apply modifications (saying that immigrants now need to create their own company instead of merely investing)to previously accepted members is trickery at best. Even worse, it's playing with people's lives. Not to mention what this will do for our economy. The article mentions about 850 immigrants that were allowed through this program. So that's 425.5 million dollars the INS wants to take OUT of the US economy, as well as 8500 newly unemployed US citizens.
Now maybe if the economy was doing great, then I can justify it by saying that the US government is run by lying bastards. But this doesn't even make any sense! They might as well take money and burn it in the streets.
dfi
do you realize that all foreign investment is good. not to mention if he immigrates, that would actually be domestic investment. do you have a problem with immigrants or something. any investment is more money in the country, and is good in every single way. that immigrant will pay taxes , among other things, and fund our social services, etc.
seeing as he actually had money to invest, it is likely he wont be a total drag on social services and welfare, such as others in this country who were born here and basically dragging our society down and contributing nothing. if anything we should let in more immigrants such as the ones in the article and somehow find a way to deport all the broke ass uneducated non tax paying bums in this country to some other place.
seeing as he actually had money to invest, it is likely he wont be a total drag on social services and welfare, such as others in this country who were born here and basically dragging our society down and contributing nothing. if anything we should let in more immigrants such as the ones in the article and somehow find a way to deport all the broke ass uneducated non tax paying bums in this country to some other place.
damn skippy. wish we could trade some of "i live off society, have 3 children and am pregnant with a fourth" citizens for immigrants that actually contribute something to society.
damn skippy. wish we could trade some of "i live off society, have 3 children and am pregnant with a fourth" citizens for immigrants that actually contribute something to society.
But that would deport a lot of people on welfare which is majority white population. And you know that wouldn't happen...
ah i see... and it all comes clear now.... heh, i thought she was saying that the majority of white people are on welfare.
The article mentions the program is replete with FRAUD, so not all that money is being put to work as it should be, as I would certainly suspect of WEALTHY IMMIGRANTS who do not come to this country to participate in the American dream, they come to make themselves even wealthier (by creating shell businesses only long enough to satisfy the requirements, most of that money is then funneled through investments that employ nobody). The "jobs" that are created are often filled by family members they help bring over, cousins and nephews and brothers, so no new "net" jobs are created at all.
$500K-$1M in some of these countries is beyond rich, its Bill Gates status, and this is how much they have managed to SAVE, which means they've made far more in their own countries. Again, there are plenty of ways to attract AMERICAN investment to these areas, we don't need more stinking furriners.
It waffles back and forth every few years, whites make up more than 50% of those on welfare for a few years, then it falls again below 50%.
But that is deliberately cherry picking your numbers. Whites make up a far greater percentage of the population and based on proportionate representation, whites have a far lower rate of welfare participation than others. I'm not sure how this became a race issue. I do believe that American citizens are multi-racial these days.
The article mentions the program is replete with FRAUD, so not all that money is being put to work as it should be, as I would certainly suspect of WEALTHY IMMIGRANTS who do not come to this country to participate in the American dream, they come to make themselves even wealthier (by creating shell businesses only long enough to satisfy the requirements, most of that money is then funneled through investments that employ nobody).
i agree, but obviously they are trying to fix those problems without affecting the legitimate people, so i don't see what your gripe is.
The "jobs" that are created are often filled by family members they help bring over, cousins and nephews and brothers, so no new "net" jobs are created at all.
those people have to spend their money in our economy in order to live.
i agree, but obviously they are trying to fix those problems without affecting the legitimate people, so i don't see what your gripe is.
The "jobs" that are created are often filled by family members they help bring over, cousins and nephews and brothers, so no new "net" jobs are created at all.
those people have to spend their money in our economy in order to live.
Have you ever been to the projects in any of the big cities? they are all mexican and black.....
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