Honda's new luxury jet with weird engine placement

OutHouse

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pretty wild.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/21/5735796/honda-is-making-a-luxury-jet-with-really-weird-engines

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jaedaliu

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That's the way to do it. Keep the engines away from the control/lift surfaces. My guess it's only practical because of the small size of the plane and engines, and new material technologies.
 

waggy

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My first thought as well. Seems a bit cramped

I would think for a short flight its fine. It does not look to bad but i would give it 4hrs tops before i need to get up and walk for a while.



great looking plane inside and out though. i really wish i had gotten my pilots license.
 

Gibsons

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"Where most jets of this size have engines mounted on either side of the rear of the fuselage, the HondaJet's HF120 turbofans rest on pedestals that rise from the wings. The advantage, Honda notes, is that the configuration frees up significant additional space inside the cabin."

Okay.
 

Phoenix86

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I always thought engines attached the fuselage seemed weird, from an air intake point of view. Attached to the wings obviously causes issues with the foil. As someone else mentioned I assume new materials allow this configuration but as long as the materials hold up to the stress from the engine I expect this is a more optimal setup.
 

Scotteq

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is there room for a toilet?

It's a luxury toy marketed at our Overlords. There's no need for a toilet, but rather a mink~lined commode over a hole in the fuselage whereby they may grace those below with the sanctified remnants of their processed sustenance..
 

Scarpozzi

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That design makes sense. They don't want exhaust heat getting near the tail/rudder AND don't want to have to deal with fuel lines being routed under the passenger cabin. Looks like a win/win as long as those little engine stands don't snap off or twist the wings when at full thrust.

Check the sticker before you buy and make sure they aren't made in china and you should be good.
 
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Those chairs do not really look very big. Not much space for the legs. Uncomfortable with one leg against the cabinet/wall.
 

BUTCH1

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I read that, very, very LOL, here's a small part from the article...

" Perhaps it was the realization that I was going to take this toilet's virginity with a fury and savagery that was an abomination to its delicate craftsmanship and quality. I imagined some poor Italian carpenter weeping over the violently soiled remains of his once beautiful creation."
 

SlickSnake

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is there room for a toilet?

I'm guessing there is a small galley on one side and a pisser on the other side in the space behind the back seats. Look how much space is behind the last window on the plane by the tail section.
 
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techs

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Having the engines up high is usually associated with seaplanes and floatplanes to put them as far as possible from the water. Also on rough field capable planes to keep them away from runway debris. Neither of which would apply in this case.

More interior room? Ok, if they say so....

Seems like it would make servicing the engines difficult.
 

Imp

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Looks like you can eject the engines and turn the plane into a better glider minus a few tons in emergencies...