Honda CEO: "300HP NSX should beat Ferrari"

[geno]

Does the Article say a US Spec NSX ?

No, but the NSX you say edges out a Cobra by .1 is, let's compare apples to apples. No one here who's buying a Cobra is going to have to worry about meeting up with a J Spec NSX.

Now unless there's some serious underrating going on with Honda's numbers, it's still a joke to say this NSX "should beat Ferrari". Yes it's early to assume, but I'm doing it.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: geno

Does the Article say a US Spec NSX ?

No, but the NSX you say edges out a Cobra by .1 is, let's compare apples to apples. No one here who's buying a Cobra is going to have to worry about meeting up with a J Spec NSX.

Now unless there's some serious underrating going on with Honda's numbers, it's still a joke to say this NSX "should beat Ferrari". Yes it's early to assume, but I'm doing it.

The previous link i showed you is a US SPEC NSX which beats the COBRA.
Show me a Time Slip showing the Mustang SVT hitting 13.0 and I'll rummage up a timeslip from Vtec.net that shows an US SPEC NSX doing the same.

 

[geno]

A) I'm not getting into a Cobra vs. NSX debate, that's not why this thread was started
B) I wouldn't doubt you'd be able to find an insanely low timeslip at TOV, I could go to a TurboDodge site and find a timeslip that says a stock Dodge Daytona runs 14's.... my point is, it's most likely biased info.

 

[ndee]

btw, isn't the new "NSX" called NSC?

 

[Vortex22]

Originally posted by: geno
I was just thumbing through the the May issue of Automobile magazine when I came across a pic of the next gen NSX. I paused to look at it because for a split second I thought it was an Enzo. Anyways, in the summary of what's to be done with the car, I notice the quote :

"NSX should beat Ferrari," says Honda president and CEO Takeo Fukui. That sounds delusional for a car with a 300HP V-6.

I mean, is this where the riceboys get their mentality when they take their 150HP civics up against 300HP sportscars? Was this guy just trying to sound like a fool with that quote? It just baffles me that a CEO could have this mentality...

I thought they were gonna put a new engine in the next gen NSX?

 

[efript]

quit talking about the 1/4 mile. honda will never be concerned about being ultra fast in the 1/4. he means around a track. and th enew nsx wont have just 300, itll have more.

 

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[isekii]

Originally posted by: geno
A) I'm not getting into a Cobra vs. NSX debate, that's not why this thread was started
B) I wouldn't doubt you'd be able to find an insanely low timeslip at TOV, I could go to a TurboDodge site and find a timeslip that says a stock Dodge Daytona runs 14's.... my point is, it's most likely biased info.

You're original quote of the CEO of Honda saying that the NSX will beat a Ferrari or whatever doesn't mention whether the NSX is a J-Spec or a US-Spec.

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: efript
quit talking about the 1/4 mile. honda will never be concerned about being ultra fast in the 1/4. he means around a track. and th enew nsx wont have just 300, itll have more.

The current concept car that's making the rounds has a 300-HP V6 in it. Where are you hearing it'll have more?

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: efript
quit talking about the 1/4 mile. honda will never be concerned about being ultra fast in the 1/4. he means around a track. and th enew nsx wont have just 300, itll have more.

The current concept car that's making the rounds has a 300-HP V6 in it. Where are you hearing it'll have more?

Yeah, peak power output figures tell you all you need to know about an engines performance...

 

[LAUST]

Incase anyone gets tired of benchracing

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: efript
quit talking about the 1/4 mile. honda will never be concerned about being ultra fast in the 1/4. he means around a track. and th enew nsx wont have just 300, itll have more.

The current concept car that's making the rounds has a 300-HP V6 in it. Where are you hearing it'll have more?

Yeah, peak power output figures tell you all you need to know about an engines performance...

sigh, fine, file this thread away until the NSX comes out with some hardcore numbers. You tell me the last time a concept turned into a production car with a significant increase in power figures.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: efript
quit talking about the 1/4 mile. honda will never be concerned about being ultra fast in the 1/4. he means around a track. and th enew nsx wont have just 300, itll have more.

The current concept car that's making the rounds has a 300-HP V6 in it. Where are you hearing it'll have more?

Yeah, peak power output figures tell you all you need to know about an engines performance...

sigh, fine, file this thread away until the NSX comes out with some hardcore numbers. You tell me the last time a concept turned into a production car with a significant increase in power figures.

 

[geno]

And by hardcore, I mean production figures...then I can laugh at it when the car isn't even comparable to a normal 360

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: geno
And by hardcore, I mean production figures...then I can laugh at it when the car isn't even comparable to a normal 360

hahaha, what are you gonna do ? Compare just the US-SPEC or J-SPEC or both ?

It would be fair to compare all no? More so the J-SPEC since the NSX's there are faster.

 

[geno]

Sure, it's fair, but if Japan keeps all the fast ones to themselves, then what good is saying you can only kill a Ferrari on your own turf?

BTW: it just dawned on me Honda shouldn't be gunning for the 360, I mean, what good is 2nd place when you're still behind the Ford GT?

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: geno
And by hardcore, I mean production figures...then I can laugh at it when the car isn't even comparable to a normal 360

In what way? Do you drag race Ferrari's? If so, WHY? these are ont drag cars FFS.

I don't doubt that the next NSX will be able to rinse a 360 on a real track(real = not '0' shaped).

Drag racing is for drag cars, not sports cars. HP is not as important off the drag strip, hence most of your constant moaning is of no consequence.

Honda Hater.

 

[geno]

If you look back, I wasn't the one to bring up 1/4 mile figures...go on, look back

so you can direct all of those comments towards other people, thanks, bubye



Honda Lover

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: SampSon
my penis is bigger than your penis
my penis is bigger than yours

myyyyy penis is bigger than yourrrrr penis

but my penis has a v8

yea yea.... well my penis has a blower

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: geno
If you look back, I wasn't the one to bring up 1/4 mile figures...go on, look back

so you can direct all of those comments towards other people, thanks, bubye



Honda Lover

True.

Fair comment, but you see my point?

 

[geno]

Of course I do - hell, I'm usually the guy who tells people who bitch about Miata's "it's not about the HP, it's about the driving experience". But in the Miata's case, it's cheap fun, you don't make a massive investment in that little car. 90 grand on the other hand, I think all bases should be covered. I just think that for the price, the NSX could offer much more oomph to rival its competitors, *espeically* considering the price of one. I know Honda can make a chassis/suspension capable of running with a 360, so if all those variables are the same, why can't it scoot down the straightaways a little quicker? I know this will be a light car, and I'm sure it'll handle like a dream and be *very* capable in the corners, much like the 1st gen, but if 300HP is the target, I think they need to up the ante a little.

Just my .02, I'm not an "anything"hater really

 

[JYDog]

Maybe it comes with 8-speed semi-automatic and a 10,000rpm rev limit...

I could see it happen though as the base 360 is already surpassed by the 911 GT3.

 

[Rent]

I have no doubt Honda can make a car that will beat a 360 around the track. After all, the 360 is more or less the benchmark for most automakers with aspirations of getting into the sports car market.

That said, I still think the next gen NSX will be far outpaced by the cheaper and more powerful Z06. /gets out flamesuit.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: isekii
It seems to edge out the FORD SVT COBRA that's Pushing 390HP. <~~ Also isn't the Ford Under Rated ?

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/89505/page010.html

by .1 seconds, and it weighs 500 lbs less. unless the NSX goes on a tremendous diet it isn't beating a ferrari. the Z06 has similar power and weight to a modena, for comparison

What's your point ? The Cobra is running the THE SO CALLED MIGHTY V8 running 100+HP on the NSX. yet the NSX still edges it out by .1sec.

NSX proves that you don't need a V8 to have decent performance.

uh, the question is if an NSX can take a ferrari with 100 more horsepower than it and of (probably) similar weight, not if you can get a performance car with a V6. the accurate comparison is the Z06 (since the Z06 can keep up with the modena). you're a moron.

Um... AFAIK, you're the moron,
He doesn't mention what type of Ferrari it is so Honda beating a Ferrari isn't out of the question. also I was merely comparing the V8 SVT to the NSX.
You said that it weighs 500lbs less than the Mustang, and it beat it by .1 seconds.
You fail to mention that the Mustang still pushing most likely 100+more HP to it.

Also the who knows what's to be done with the ACURA. For all you know the CEO could be talking about the NSX they got over there in Japan, which most likely is pushing more than the US Versions.

hey, moron, the guy said ferrari, not a mustang that weighs 500 lbs more than a ferrari! the current nsx being a tad faster than a mustang is a strawman! just because the mustang has similar power to a ferrari doesn't mean it performs the same. the Z06 performs far more like ferrari, and bitch slaps the current nsx all over the place. so again, unless the nsx goes on a tremendous diet, it isn't beating the modena, (or the Z06, for that matter). even if it gets 50 more hp, it'll come close, but still won't beat.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: isekii
It seems to edge out the FORD SVT COBRA that's Pushing 390HP. <~~ Also isn't the Ford Under Rated ?

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/89505/page010.html

by .1 seconds, and it weighs 500 lbs less. unless the NSX goes on a tremendous diet it isn't beating a ferrari. the Z06 has similar power and weight to a modena, for comparison

What's your point ? The Cobra is running the THE SO CALLED MIGHTY V8 running 100+HP on the NSX. yet the NSX still edges it out by .1sec.

NSX proves that you don't need a V8 to have decent performance.

uh, the question is if an NSX can take a ferrari with 100 more horsepower than it and of (probably) similar weight, not if you can get a performance car with a V6. the accurate comparison is the Z06 (since the Z06 can keep up with the modena). you're a moron.

Um... AFAIK, you're the moron,
He doesn't mention what type of Ferrari it is so Honda beating a Ferrari isn't out of the question. also I was merely comparing the V8 SVT to the NSX.
You said that it weighs 500lbs less than the Mustang, and it beat it by .1 seconds.
You fail to mention that the Mustang still pushing most likely 100+more HP to it.

Also the who knows what's to be done with the ACURA. For all you know the CEO could be talking about the NSX they got over there in Japan, which most likely is pushing more than the US Versions.

hey, moron, the guy said ferrari, not a mustang that weighs 500 lbs more than a ferrari! the current nsx being a tad faster than a mustang is a strawman! just because the mustang has similar power to a ferrari doesn't mean it performs the same. the Z06 performs far more like ferrari, and bitch slaps the current nsx all over the place. so again, unless the nsx goes on a tremendous diet, it isn't beating the modena, (or the Z06, for that matter). even if it gets 50 more hp, it'll come close, but still won't beat.

Yea he said ferrari.
But Does he mention which NSX ? NO HE DOESN'T. There are STOCK NSX's overseas that run a whole lot faster than the STOCK NSX'S They have in the US. Why would the NSX have to go on a diet ? Even the US SPEC NSX currently is a pretty decent performer. JSPEC NSX's have no trouble going under 13.0.
As far as the future of the NSX, noone knows what they'll do to it performance wise. You're just comparing the NSX's that we currently have here in the US to the Ferrari.
Geno was comparing the US-SPEC and so are you. You failed to realize there are faster (higher HP) NSX's STOCK over in Japan.