Homosexual Divorce....

[Yo Ma Ma]

Gays and lesbians can certainly be just as immature, impulsive, idiotic and wrong-headed as any heterosexual person.

Britney Spears is an admitted heterosexual and her first marriage lasted a matter of hours, so this couple making it nearly a year seems quite admirable in comparison

 

[Perknose]

I also don't remember people saying that homosexuals would show the straight folk how marriage is done, bozack. Since you claim so many people here said that, would you kindly show us just two or three examples please?

What I DO remember people saying was that gays should have the same right to marriage as the rest of us. The right to divorce goes along with that. ONE case of divorce does not any huge trend make, unless you're an embittered homophobe and wish to see it so.

 

[sandorski]

The funny part of this situation is: They can't legally get Divorced! It seems Marriage was allowed, but the Divorce Laws were not updated to take into consideration what to do if Homosexuals want a Divorce.

As for people claiming "Gays would show how it's done." Someone may have stated such a sentiment, but I don't recall anyone saying that and it certainly wasn't a widely held opinion. So yes, this is news and a historical event, but it certainly is not "ownage" of anyone, that's just lame flaimbait.

 

[3chordcharlie]

I believe I saw a few people point out that 'preserving the sanctity of marriage' was a bad argument against gay marriage, due to the not-very-sanctimonius treatment of marriage by heterosexual couples. The flip-side - that gay couples would themselves be perfect and never find themselves wanting to end their vows - is not implied by the rebuttal of that argument.

The reason I find this to be such a non-item is that there should never have been any doubt that a first gay divorce would come along; I just don't understand why this would qualify as anything other than a trivia question for Ken when he's still winning 5 years from now

 

[Kibbo]

Here's some actual information about the couple, I heard it in an interview with their lawyer on CBC radio. No linky, so you'll have to trust me.

They were together for 5 years when gay marriage was legalized in Ontario, aand decided to get married. Soon after they realized their mistake. The lawyer stated that unlike the test cases for gay marriage, who were open about doing it as a crusade to get the laws changed, this couple hates the fact that they have to make a charter challenge. They don't want to be heroines, they just want a divorce.

As for their personal motives, (hypothesis here,) perhaps their relationship was on the rocks and they thought that marriage would save it. Or maybe it was one of those "it wasn't broke until they tried to fix it" things.

I've heard of both situations in straight couples. I don't know why you have to be cynical about two people you know nothing about.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Kibbo
Here's some actual information about the couple, I heard it in an interview with their lawyer on CBC radio. No linky, so you'll have to trust me.

They were together for 5 years when gay marriage was legalized in Ontario, aand decided to get married. Soon after they realized their mistake. The lawyer stated that unlike the test cases for gay marriage, who were open about doing it as a crusade to get the laws changed, this couple hates the fact that they have to make a charter challenge. They don't want to be heroines, they just want a divorce.

As for their personal motives, (hypothesis here,) perhaps their relationship was on the rocks and they thought that marriage would save it. Or maybe it was one of those "it wasn't broke until they tried to fix it" things.

I've heard of both situations in straight couples. I don't know why you have to be cynical about two people you know nothing about.

Please, your reason, compassion and truth are a tedious and annoying impediment to bozack's expression of his righteously angry bigotry. Kibbo, why, oh why, do you hate America?

 

[Hossenfeffer]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Kibbo
Here's some actual information about the couple, I heard it in an interview with their lawyer on CBC radio. No linky, so you'll have to trust me.

They were together for 5 years when gay marriage was legalized in Ontario, aand decided to get married. Soon after they realized their mistake. The lawyer stated that unlike the test cases for gay marriage, who were open about doing it as a crusade to get the laws changed, this couple hates the fact that they have to make a charter challenge. They don't want to be heroines, they just want a divorce.

As for their personal motives, (hypothesis here,) perhaps their relationship was on the rocks and they thought that marriage would save it. Or maybe it was one of those "it wasn't broke until they tried to fix it" things.

I've heard of both situations in straight couples. I don't know why you have to be cynical about two people you know nothing about.

Please, your reason, compassion and truth are a tedious and annoying impediment to bozack's expression of his righteously angry bigotry. Kibbo, why, oh why, do you hate America?

:evil::beer:

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: steeplerot
I want to see a refence to this whole "They would prove how it should be done."
I have never heard such a thing as a argument for gay marriage.
And I live 3 blocks from the biggest concentration of homosexuals in america (Castro District.)
Coming up with BS like this just makes you look like a bitter closet-case.

Steeple, so because you have either selective memory, or choose not to remember what was posted on these forums then I have to go back and dig through thousands of threads to pull up quotes and links? I will do it at work but just seems funny how you guys always happen to forget when it hurts one of your arguments. Also I am talking in context of these forums, not what happens a few blocks from your house.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: sandorski
The funny part of this situation is: They can't legally get Divorced! It seems Marriage was allowed, but the Divorce Laws were not updated to take into consideration what to do if Homosexuals want a Divorce.

As for people claiming "Gays would show how it's done." Someone may have stated such a sentiment, but I don't recall anyone saying that and it certainly wasn't a widely held opinion. So yes, this is news and a historical event, but it certainly is not "ownage" of anyone, that's just lame flaimbait.

another case of liberal selective memory? seems to be a trend.

 

[Siddhartha]

I am missing what the fuss is about. What is the big deal about a married couple getting a divorce?

 

[Hossenfeffer]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I am missing what the fuss is about. What is the big deal about a married couple getting a divorce?

:beer:

 

[Shelly21]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I am missing what the fuss is about. What is the big deal about a married couple getting a divorce?

Right, you have to stop them from getting married in the first place. After that, what can you do? move to another country?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: sandorski
The funny part of this situation is: They can't legally get Divorced! It seems Marriage was allowed, but the Divorce Laws were not updated to take into consideration what to do if Homosexuals want a Divorce.

As for people claiming "Gays would show how it's done." Someone may have stated such a sentiment, but I don't recall anyone saying that and it certainly wasn't a widely held opinion. So yes, this is news and a historical event, but it certainly is not "ownage" of anyone, that's just lame flaimbait.

another case of liberal selective memory? seems to be a trend.

You made the charge, you show the proof. Shouldn't be hard to find it if it exists.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: bozack

Read....I am not making any claim of the sort, I am just saying here is an instance that clearly proves that they most likely won't "get it right" as so many harped on about...never said it debunks the basis for homosexual marriage, just those bafoons who insisted that they would treat marriage with more respect than straight people would simply because they were denied the right...

I must of glanced over the post that said they will get it right because I don't remember anybody saying that. I do remember people stating that they couldn't do any worse than hetrosexual couples though.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: sandorski

You made the charge, you show the proof. Shouldn't be hard to find it if it exists.

I will play my typical liberal response card and say you show me proof that no one ever said that here....these are threads from months ago, I have better things to do than dig through them just because you either choose not to remember something or deny it.


Ok Sandorski...just because I am bored here is one example that I found in a quick search:

Originally posted by: chess9

Yeah, why wouldn't gays want to part of the horror that is American marriage?

On the other hand, maybe they'll show us straights how marriage SHOULD be. I only know two gay couples and they have been together in one case for over 18 years and about 7 years in the other. Who knows? Stay tuned....

 

[happyhelper]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: sandorski

You made the charge, you show the proof. Shouldn't be hard to find it if it exists.

I will play my typical liberal response card and say you show me proof that no one ever said that here....these are threads from months ago, I have better things to do than dig through them just because you either choose not to remember something or deny it.

so you're making shlt up

 

[Red Dawn]

Come on Bozack, I don't recall anybody saying that Homo's would be better at marriage than Straights. If I had read that I know I would have questioned the poster about it. Like I said earlier though I remember reading on more than one occasion where somebody posted that they(Gays) probably couldn't do any worse than Hetrosexual couples which I took as a comment and observation about the dismal state of marriages failing at a rate of 50%

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Shelly21

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I am missing what the fuss is about. What is the big deal about a married couple getting a divorce?

Right, you have to stop them from getting married in the first place. After that, what can you do? move to another country?

Sarcasm?

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Come on Bozack, I don't recall anybody saying that Homo's would be better at marriage than Straights. If I had read that I know I would have questioned the poster about it. Like I said earlier though I remember reading on more than one occasion where somebody posted that they(Gays) probably couldn't do any worse than Hetrosexual couples which I took as a comment and observation about the dismal state of marriages failing at a rate of 50%

The one more recent example I could find....most of these comments were brought up in divorce threads which mutated to include homosexual marriage so weeding them out in a search isn't easy...however it has been said on here before and more than a few times...

Originally posted by: chess9

Yeah, why wouldn't gays want to part of the horror that is American marriage?

On the other hand, maybe they'll show us straights how marriage SHOULD be. I only know two gay couples and they have been together in one case for over 18 years and about 7 years in the other. Who knows? Stay tuned....
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[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Kibbo
Right. . . 'cause straights are so much better at it.

hey, just saying one of the most repeated phrases here was that the homosexuals would show us straights how marriage should be done....looks like it might not be the case afterall.

Can you please post a link where someone wrote that phrase?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: bozack

The one more recent example I could find....most of these comments were brought up in divorce threads which mutated to include homosexual marriage so weeding them out in a search isn't easy...however it has been said on here before and more than a few times...

Originally posted by: chess9

Yeah, why wouldn't gays want to part of the horror that is American marriage?

On the other hand, maybe they'll show us straights how marriage SHOULD be. I only know two gay couples and they have been together in one case for over 18 years and about 7 years in the other. Who knows? Stay tuned....
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Hmmm I read that as more of a sarcastic comment about the state of marriage in America among Hetrosexuals. However I can understand how you can interpret it as him saying that Gays would be better at it, especially when considering your strong opposition to allowing Gays to wed.

That said, even if a couple of posters did post what you allege I doubt that view is the general consensus of those who are agianst discrimination based on sexual preference.

 

[smashp]

They are Destroying the Sanctity of divorse

 

[imported_tss4]

I'm a liberal and I never said that. I'm sure there were liberal posters that said that "Gays would show us heterosexuals how its done", but even if the majority of posters here said that (which a few posts in severals threads does not show) I think we can all agree they were *wrong*. Does that make you feel better bozack? They were wrong. Gays will not do any better than the rest of us. That being said, they should still enjoy the same rights that we do. After all, any disgrace they bring to marraige won't be worse than what we've allready done to it.

 

[imported_tss4]

By the way, that sanctity of divorce comment was really funny!

 

[3chordcharlie]

I want to see the thread the first time there's a gay custody battle