To be on the look out for freedom fighters and opposition and freedom of expression and assembly.
When those people agreed with you you're fine with it, but turn the shoe and you're not. Who's the tyrant now? Freedom of speech, as long as you agree with me. We're taking back the language and taking back representation.
Really? You think the Washington Times is a "hate-blog"?
There is only 1 poster left that constantly posts blog "articles". If you ever see me do it, please be sure and let me know
It was also the leader on Drudge today, and that site has more influence on the American people and media than any other.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business...tory?id=2915370&page=1
If you feel that this was some sort of hit piece, I dont know what to tell you.
If you think that the article is false, please state the points that you think are a lie. Otherwise, you look like a leftie that is trying to discredit an OP who was just posting something that somebody else would have 3 minutes later anyway.
retrospooty
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Originally posted by: OCguy
Really? You think the Washington Times is a "hate-blog"?
There is only 1 poster left that constantly posts blog "articles". If you ever see me do it, please be sure and let me know
It was also the leader on Drudge today, and that site has more influence on the American people and media than any other.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business...tory?id=2915370&page=1
If you feel that this was some sort of hit piece, I dont know what to tell you.
If you think that the article is false, please state the points that you think are a lie. Otherwise, you look like a leftie that is trying to discredit an OP who was just posting something that somebody else would have 3 minutes later anyway.
What I mean is your attempt to paint this into a bad light. How is looking our for right wing nutjob terrorists a bad thing? Tim McVie is not the only one.
retrospooty
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What the hell are you talking about? How is being on the lookout for violent extremists a bad thing? No one is going after "freedom fighters" or anyone using "freedom of expression". They are talking about Tim McVie types that practice violence... Unless you are trying to call people like McVie a hero - in which case I suggest you leave this country, becasue its not meant for you.
TastesLikeChicken
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The right is now determined to look even dumber than the left did for the last 8 years.
This is mountain building when there's not even a molehill to begin with.
This is mountain building when there's not even a molehill to begin with.
CADsortaGUY
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retrospooty
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
That's RACIST!!!
LOL.. I dunno about that, but has anyone ever told you that your sig makes you sound like a total asshat ? IF not, let me be the first.
ProfJohn
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Something to ponder...
When the Democrats had complete control of the government in the 60s it was the radical left that was setting off bombs and killing people.
And then the government swung almost completely to the right throughout the 1980s and it became the right that started setting off bombs and killing people. (Oklahoma, abortion clinics + doctors)
So now that the left has taken over could we see the radical left reemerge?? Or is that trend done and over with??
BTW I think the story is correct. The chances of another Waco or Ruby Ridge are much much higher under a Democrat like Obama than under a Republican.
When the Democrats had complete control of the government in the 60s it was the radical left that was setting off bombs and killing people.
And then the government swung almost completely to the right throughout the 1980s and it became the right that started setting off bombs and killing people. (Oklahoma, abortion clinics + doctors)
So now that the left has taken over could we see the radical left reemerge?? Or is that trend done and over with??
BTW I think the story is correct. The chances of another Waco or Ruby Ridge are much much higher under a Democrat like Obama than under a Republican.
Except groups like ELF are just emerging. And it will only get worse with blow-hards like Al Gore running around trying to get federal and private funds for "studies."
First they spray-paint some hummers and get away with it. Im not going to speculate out load what may be next, but I have some ideas.
In the 90s there were these black helicopters flying around...according to some folks. Never mind that the US Army flies black helicopters.
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Well, that's ummm... one version. Regardless, I'd like to see something on the report about left-wing radicals.
Does it say that they sport Obama bumper stickers and hang out on computer tech sites posting left-wing stuff under pseudonyms?
Ya know, the kind that bitch about terrorists' civil rights and FISA yet applaud the surveillance of US citizens with Ron Paul & NRA bumper stickers?
Fern
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The Viet Nam war drove alot of the 1960's radicalism.
Roe vs Wade drove alot of the 1980's radicalism.
I think the Federal government has learned alot from the outcomes of the Ruby Ridge and Waco sieges. Has there been a repeat of that kind of disaster in the last 15 years?
"At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid." - Nietzsche
retrospooty
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Whats your point?
The fact is that the violent terrorist that would harm another human being is just a small fraction of a percent of the billions of Muslims out there... Does that mean we should stop being on the lookout for Muslim Terrorists?
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It looks bad because the criteria for being considered a right winged radical is so ludicrious and broad. Returning vets?!?!? Really?
I also find these studies interesting because they can be used for political suppression. Does anybody know if Bush had similar studies and recommendations for political left organizations?
Finally, we agree on something.
For chrissakes, DHS did a pretty fair and balanced job. Left-wing nut job threat assessment in Jan 09, right-wing nut job assessment in Apr 09. I think it's quite fair to say that DHS is looking for nut jobs of all persuasions.
And so frankly, this entire discussion is interesting only in the manner in which it draws the paranoid nut jobs to the fire.
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I don't believe the report concluded that returning vets were right-wing radicals, only that RWR's would try and recruit them and/or radicalize them.
Is it any wonder that when you all these politicians and right wing blowhards and Fox news talking heads, saying the sky is falling, Unfortunately, we don't have too many in the media pointing out that the statements of people like congresswomen Michelle Bachmann and Glenn Beck are pure paranoid fantasy. Instead they have acted as a bullhorn for the chicken little brigades notion that we are being overun by godless commies and other boogymen.
The usual worry about an impending 'New World Order.'"
Those worriers are just getting their panties in a wad over the past. The New World Order arrived in America a while back in the form of corporations transferring countless U.S. jobs to foreign shores. The New World Order is called global capitalism, and it's here to stay.
Maybe the Canadians carve out a portion of Manitoba for them? They can sales tax themselves into prosperity. They can tea bag themselves all night long.
The usual worry about an impending 'New World Order.'"
Those worriers are just getting their panties in a wad over the past. The New World Order arrived in America a while back in the form of corporations transferring countless U.S. jobs to foreign shores. The New World Order is called global capitalism, and it's here to stay.
Maybe the Canadians carve out a portion of Manitoba for them? They can sales tax themselves into prosperity. They can tea bag themselves all night long.
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