Homeland Security Warns Against "Right-wing Radicals"

[Fern]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Fern
Quite likely because the left-wing radical report hasn't been reported by the MSM.

Riiiiight. Reality has a liberal bias, eh Fern?

OTOH, the one against right wing radicals has been widely reported. For some reason it has been all over the news.

Well, the left-wing radical report came out in January. OTOH, the right-wing radical report JUST came out a week ago. Huh, go figure it's all over the news.

:roll:

No, we had a thread about some time ago. It was on the news also. Edit: This is the thread, I assume Missouri got it from DHS. I remember that story hitting the MSM

There were things like Ron Paul bumper stickers mentioned etc.

This is old news, when the search function is working for me I'll look again. We've had this discussion and it was longer ago than last week.

I don't know what you mean here:

Riiiiight. Reality has a liberal bias, eh Fern?

I'm just saying, unlike the right-wing report, I haven't heard jack in the MSM (or anywhere else until it was mentioned above) about any left-wing report.

Fern

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Current Stimulus is necessary. Cost is astronomical, but much better than doing nothing.

Yeah, if you follow dumbass economics. :roll:

Sorry, but getting a credit card with a $10K limit and maxing it out on junk doesn't make you $10K wealthier. It makes you $10K poorer.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: sandorski
Current Stimulus is necessary. Cost is astronomical, but much better than doing nothing.

Yeah, if you follow dumbass economics. :roll:

Sorry, but getting a credit card with a $10K limit and maxing it out on junk doesn't make you $10K wealthier. It makes you $10K poorer.

Uhh, wrong.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Fern
I'm just saying, unlike the right-wing report, I haven't heard jack in the MSM (or anywhere else until it was mentioned above) about any left-wing report.

And so? Perhaps that report hasn't been made public? Who cares?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: bamacre
Is anyone really surprised? This is just the way government operates, trying to cure the symptoms rather than the diseases. Dissent is just a symptom.

So what is the disease in this case?

Destroying the dollar, out-of-control spending and deficits.

You actually think that is the reason why the economy have gone bankrupt?

You don't think that completely out of control corporations have been running rampant eager for every pound they can make as fast as possible?

Because anyone with even a tad of sanity knows that this is because there has been too little socialism (IE governmental regulation) on the financial markets. They don't regulate themselves because if you can make money, more money, fast money then pretty much anyone will.

The government didn't break ANYTHING, the market broke itself and before this is properly understood nothing can be done.

I know the likes of you can't wait for the US to fall just to prove you right, but this Brit has faith in the US and i believe that you can turn this around.

I was speaking about the government's reaction to the economic problems, not the causes.

But nevertheless, yes, the economic problems were created by government, starting with the Federal Reserve.

The economical problems of the internal market were created by the internal financial market, not by the government, i think you know that but you want to believe in your own ideology so much that you simply "pass the buck".

It's not any more intelligent when you do it than it is when the governmet does it.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Fern
Quite likely because the left-wing radical report hasn't been reported by the MSM.

Riiiiight. Reality has a liberal bias, eh Fern?

OTOH, the one against right wing radicals has been widely reported. For some reason it has been all over the news.

Well, the left-wing radical report came out in January. OTOH, the right-wing radical report JUST came out a week ago. Huh, go figure it's all over the news.

:roll:

Doesn't that prove his point? I don't recall the leftist report being reported on MSM.

Actually not at all. The media reporting on excessive government focus on certain groups actually helps them. I would think this would be evidence for conservative media bias instead of 'librul'.

Of course that would assume that the media didn't report on DHS trying to infiltrate and keep watch on anti-war groups and such a few years back, which it totally did. Right wingers want to see media bias though, and so they will find media bias whether it exists or not.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Fern
I'm just saying, unlike the right-wing report, I haven't heard jack in the MSM (or anywhere else until it was mentioned above) about any left-wing report.

And so? Perhaps that report hasn't been made public? Who cares?

Try following the thread:

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

-snip-
A similar assessment of left-wing radicals completed in January was distributed to federal, state and local police agencies at that time.

"These assessments are done all the time, this is nothing unusual," Kuban said.[/b]

Nothing to see here. Just more rampant paranoia by the usual wingnut extremists.

:laugh:

I can't help but notice that OCguy didn't bother posting anything about the assessment of left-wing radicals completed in January.

:thumbsdown:

Quite likely because the left-wing radical report hasn't been reported by the MSM.

OTOH, the one against right wing radicals has been widely reported. For some reason it has been all over the news.

We've even had threads here about it before (i.e., this is a repost but the search function isn't working for me ATM).

Fern

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: sandorski
Current Stimulus is necessary. Cost is astronomical, but much better than doing nothing.

Yeah, if you follow dumbass economics. :roll:

Sorry, but getting a credit card with a $10K limit and maxing it out on junk doesn't make you $10K wealthier. It makes you $10K poorer.

Uhh, wrong.

Actually he is right and if you have any credit card debts, transform them into Cheque credits and use your charge card, if you ever need to use the credit (which will be about 1/3 of the interest rate) then you are doing something wrong, well unless you use it in an emergency and then let it go back to zero over passing months.

But that isn't really the problem, the problem is the financial market as a whole, not only the consumer financial market.

 

[Sacrilege]

It's interesting to see the authoritarian running dogs turn on each other. It must be hard for outlets such as Fox News and the Washington Times to report on something like this. On the one hand they want to be fluffers for the Department of Homeland Security, which "keeps America safe." On the other hand the article might offend their typical right wing reader. Expect much discussion on shows like "Fox and Friends" about how the government should really be focusing on Left Wing Terrorists and their Islamic allies; and how right wingers keep America safe by serving as soldiers and police.

A similar state of conflict occurs when American conservatives criticize a place like China. Unbridled economic growth, disregard for the environment, and authoritarian government should be a fantasy land for a right winger; too bad the whole meaningless "Communist" is thrown in the title of that nation.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Fern
I'm just saying, unlike the right-wing report, I haven't heard jack in the MSM (or anywhere else until it was mentioned above) about any left-wing report.

And so? Perhaps that report hasn't been made public? Who cares?

Try following the thread:

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

-snip-
A similar assessment of left-wing radicals completed in January was distributed to federal, state and local police agencies at that time.

"These assessments are done all the time, this is nothing unusual," Kuban said.[/b]

Nothing to see here. Just more rampant paranoia by the usual wingnut extremists.

:laugh:

I can't help but notice that OCguy didn't bother posting anything about the assessment of left-wing radicals completed in January.

:thumbsdown:

Quite likely because the left-wing radical report hasn't been reported by the MSM.

OTOH, the one against right wing radicals has been widely reported. For some reason it has been all over the news.

We've even had threads here about it before (i.e., this is a repost but the search function isn't working for me ATM).

Fern

Okay, well you got me there. Heh. :laugh:

 

[Carmen813]

You have to expect this type of government behavior when you freak out and give away your civil liberties to feel "safer."

That said, this report is completely harmless. It's no different than the ones that come out about eco-terrorists and radical socialists/communists. It amounts to a "keep your eyes open" for this.

 

[Modelworks]

The threat I think the government should watch out for are disgruntled employees and people who have no work. I am really surprised that nobody tried to shoot people like Madoff. I heard a guy on the radio say that if he lost his job and couldn't feed his family , he was going to grab his gun and head to the local grocery store with other unemployed people and take what they needed. That is the kind of thinking they need to watch out for.

 

[IGBT]

a large government with rage and anger liberals in charge, watching citizens. you guys didn't see this comming??

 

[spidey07]

LOL at this...

"A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority. "

Yeah, damn that Constitution! Anybody that believes in it we need to look out for! Notice the timing as well, just before the local support at the Tea Parties. How convenient.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: spidey07
LOL at this...

"A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority. "

Yeah, damn that Constitution! Anybody that believes in it we need to look out for!

Wait...so Obama is a right-wing radical for ignoring federal law and allowing medical MJ in CA?


Interesting...

 

[trenchfoot]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

-snip-
A similar assessment of left-wing radicals completed in January was distributed to federal, state and local police agencies at that time.

"These assessments are done all the time, this is nothing unusual," Kuban said.[/b]

Nothing to see here. Just more rampant paranoia by the usual wingnut extremists.

:laugh:

I can't help but notice that OCguy didn't bother posting anything about the assessment of left-wing radicals completed in January.

:thumbsdown:

Quite likely because the left-wing radical report hasn't been reported by the MSM.

OTOH, the one against right wing radicals has been widely reported. For some reason it has been all over the news.

We've even had threads here about it before (i.e., this is a repost but the search function isn't working for me ATM).

Fern

Seeing as if the sources aren't presently known(?) concerning the distribution of the right wing radical report, it seems plausible to me that "the spreading around" of the right wing radical report could have come from the right wing radicals themselves attacking the report to defend themselves.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: tweaker2

Seeing as if the sources aren't presently known(?) concerning the distribution of the right wing radical report, it seems plausible to me that "the spreading around" of the right wing radical report could have come from the right wing radicals themselves attacking the report to defend themselves.

Dont stand too close to the microwave with that thing on....

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: OCguy
If this isnt a boogyman, I dont know what is. Lock your doors, there are war vets returning home!

So, what do the people who complained about the Bush administration spreading fear have to say?


http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94803

http://www.washingtontimes.com...-of-radicals-on-right/


WASHINGTON ? A newly unclassified Department of Homeland Security report warns against the possibility of violence by unnamed "right-wing extremists" concerned about illegal immigration, increasing federal power, restrictions on firearms, abortion and the loss of U.S. sovereignty and singles out returning war veterans as particular threats"

What I have to say is this: If Obama wants to play the FUD card like Bush did, he would wait until he actually needed to. At the moment, he doesn't have any motivation to do so.

 

[Craig234]

Glenn Greenwald says what should be said about this here.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Harvey
We're living with the financial collapse they caused by squandering just under $1 trillion dollars and thousands of American lives on their war of lies in Iraq, and further trillions of dollars in the financial collapse due to their abandonment of all regulation and oversight of their wealthy Wall Street robber baron contributors.

fixed... now, you may proceed.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: OCguy
If this isnt a boogyman, I dont know what is. Lock your doors, there are war vets returning home!

So, what do the people who complained about the Bush administration spreading fear have to say?


http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94803

http://www.washingtontimes.com...-of-radicals-on-right/


WASHINGTON ? A newly unclassified Department of Homeland Security report warns against the possibility of violence by unnamed "right-wing extremists" concerned about illegal immigration, increasing federal power, restrictions on firearms, abortion and the loss of U.S. sovereignty and singles out returning war veterans as particular threats"

What, are you taking Winnar111's place as the right wing hate blog poster of the day now that he is banned? Is it coming to the point where you will just post anything at all to spread your FUD?

Anyhow, sorry your attempt to paint this in a bad light has failed. If there is anything I fear on this country it is the extreme right nutjobs like hte ones described in the article. Taliban... Al Qaeda... They really cant do much damage now that the element of surprise is in order - the ultra religios right wing nutjob with guns and ammo is a far more realistic threat.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: retrospooty


What, are you taking Winnar111's place as the right wing hate blog poster of the day now that he is banned? Is it coming to the point where you will just post anything at all to spread your FUD?

What part of it is FUD? Kudo's for calling people that believe in The Constitution as "hate speech".

This is the big problem - "As long as you agree with the agenda you have freedom of speech, other wise it is hate speech"

So what is the new monkey going to do about it?

 

[Hacp]

What about Reverend White? He was Obama's pastor for gods sake. Its almost a given that he rubbed some of his ideas onto Obama.

 

[trenchfoot]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: tweaker2

Seeing as if the sources aren't presently known(?) concerning the distribution of the right wing radical report, it seems plausible to me that "the spreading around" of the right wing radical report could have come from the right wing radicals themselves attacking the report to defend themselves.

Dont stand too close to the microwave with that thing on....

LOL, good one. I assume you're giving me this advice from personal experience so I'm gonna take your advice to heart.

And, taking into account your ideology and online persona, I believe you're being honest with me and I appreciate that.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: retrospooty


What, are you taking Winnar111's place as the right wing hate blog poster of the day now that he is banned? Is it coming to the point where you will just post anything at all to spread your FUD?

What part of it is FUD? Kudo's for calling people that believe in The Constitution as "hate speech".

Originally posted by: OCguy
If this isnt a boogyman, I dont know what is. Lock your doors, there are war vets returning home! so, what do the people who complained about the Bush administration spreading fear have to say?

That would be the FUD.

What exactly is it that you think is going on here? the DHS is on the lookout for right wing terrorists... What is wrong with that and what negative agenda do either of you think is being pushed with it? How is any of that spreading fear though? Bush used fear of terrorists to take away our constitutional right to privacy and due process, and to invade Iraq. The current admin isnt doing anything with this info other than being on the lookout for these nuts.