Home theatre set up...

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atomicbomberman

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Hmm.. I'll say the most expensive piece of equipment/investment you'll have to make will be on speakers.

There are many types/brand you can get. My personal preference is Infinity. If you're looking for budget choice, look for some second hand Crescendo Series speakers, like the 3007. You can probably get a pair of 3007 for about 200 to 250. They're like 40in tall, and believe me, they're cripse as hell. My dad uses the 3007 downstairs, and I picked up a pair of 3006 (slightly smaller) for $94 bucks at the flea market.. hehe... not even my friends klipich promedia can beat my sound setup on my comp. =)
Since I'm obviously bias towards Infinity, I'll say they're the best. But there are some pretty good brand too.. I know that Kenwood and Pinoeer both make some nice speakers. If you're looking into some really really high end stuff, then look into Harmon/Karon.
Remember, for a full 5.1 setup, you'll need 5 speakers, look to spend like $200 on front ones, maybe $100 on the Rear ones, about 70-100 bucks on the Center Channel, and well.. depends on your level of Bass, a Subwoofer can cost little or a lot.

As for DVD Player, basically any brand is cool. As long as they have a Optical/Coxial digital out so you can hook up a fiber optic line for True Dobly Digital Effect. I prefer Pinoeer DVD Player, basically because they're the first one to make them. And they're not too expensive, look to spend around $200 on it.

Now the most important part of all... the Amp/Recivier

Since you're looking into the Budget side of things. I would not recommend Sony or Harmon/Karon, they're really good, but really expensive too. For a Recivier, you should look for something around 500Watt Range of power output, w/ at least one digital in (that is one each, one coxial and one optical), and of course, look out for the Dobly Digital Sign and the DTS sign. Most Reciviers are Dobly Digital REady, but the really cheap ones dont' have onboard DTS decoding, "DTS Ready" doesn't mean it can decode DTS. Look for DTS decoding onboard. I'm currently using a Kenwood VR-407 Reciver, It's one of the Kenwood's low-end equipment, but the sound quality is more than good enough for me. 500W, DD, DTS, and all that good stuff. Anyway, I think they retail for $299 at Frys, I got it during one of their Sale for $199. So I say you can probably find a decent low-end reciver for around 200.

Hmm.. let's see.. 200 on the DVD, 200 on the Amp, and 400-500 on the speakers.. Well.. 900 bucks is pretty close to your 700 bucks budget I'll say. =)




 

zippy

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BUUUUUUMP. :)

Guys, I am leaving for college in 2.5 years, my parents won't appreciate earth shattering, clear sound so I don't think I should spend soooo much on speakers. MAYBE that kenwood set would be good. :) What about a TV though??? :eek:

TV: Sony Trinitron 27" (not VVega)
Speakers:
Dolby® Digital Home Theater System HTB203A
Dolby® Digital Home Theater System HTB303

What is the difference between those two? BTW, what is DTS? :eek: I feel like such a newbie. :(

DVD Player: Toshiba SD2200

How's it look?
 

atomicbomberman

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Use 12 gauge cables, they dont' cost too much more, and they're just about right for all purposes of speakers.

Hmm.. if you're looking into a full setup like that, like amp/speakers included, then you probably dont' want to go w/ the kenwood ones.. they're not too good, and don't have DTS, DTS stands for Digital Theater Sound.... it's a different kinda encoding then Dobly Digital, it's audio only, which means some cd or DVD w/ some audio only track would use DTS. Believe me, you want it.

http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/consumer/ss5/home/homeentertainment/hometheaterpackages/htd-dw820.shtml

This sony ones looks pretty good, 600 bucks is MSRP, which means you can probably get it somewhere for 500ish.

Or you might want to check into Pinoeer Solutions, they're good at making nice compact surround sound system. Usually small speakers like such are not as "deep" in sound as a full blown Home Theater System which you assemble the pieces yourself.

If you want to save on speakers, which I'm against it. WTF whould u do w/ a 500W amp if you're speakers can't put out good sound? Anyway, if you want to save on speakers, go on Egay, I'm sure there are people that sell them out for pretty cheap, as I said before, you might want to look into either Pinoeer, Infinity, or Kenwood loud speakers.

Subwoofers are not really nessessay if you have good loud build in woofers in your front speakers. It's nice to have, but w/ my home setup, I dont' have a subwoofer yet, but well.. when i watch ID4 on DVD, hehe.. the windows raddle and floor shakes when the plane flyby. =O

I hope this helps.
 
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OH NO.. not that sony model... We found the sound crappy not enough sound in full. Zippy go to Circuit City or Sears (they have both the kenwood and the Sony model) and listen to them.

Do one thing take a few cd's with you, a Jazz (kenny G), Hip Hop (Something with Bass) and listen to them apart from radio and a DVD - ask them to pop a demo dvd in.. you will hear the difference.

We got a 27" Sony Trinitron V series TV, the S series cheaper by about 100 bucks is also good.


 

poop

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You are better off with either of these tvs:
Panasonic
Toshiba
JVC

These all have component input, which is a must for DVDs.

I agree with Good Guy on those sonys. They are truly craptacular. The kenwood set looks better. Try looking here for an idea of what you might want to get:
HT Reviews

Hope that helps.
 
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stay of JVC I have heard several people complain about JVC dvd players and TV's.

Panasonic is good.. I prefer Sony Though. See if you can get Philips.. they are good too.
 

zippy

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Good guy and poop, thanks you guys. :) I think I'm going to head over to BB tomorrow and check out the Toshiba SD2200, see if they have those Kenwoods test those, and test out the TVs. :)

$500 for the Kenwood speakers...
$230 for the Toshiba SD2200...
$360 for the Panny TV...

TOTAL: $1090...eep. :eek:

Well, maybe I can convince my parents.

&quot;Well mom and dad, you said we could get a TV for the basement, so how about this one? Okay, its $350, its expensive, but its nice and its not like we get them so often. <big smirk> Well, how about this DVD player? I really want to rent movies more often and I can't stand our crummy VCR any more, its just terrible and we would need a new VCR anyway [note: Up to here is all true...well, this whole thing is, its just what I am about to get to is stretching the truth a bit. ;)]. Now, we can't possibly play DVDs with those inferior speakers that are on the TV. To fully appreciate the sound I think we should get this set, its really high quality and will last for years. Like I said before, its not like we have gotten a stereo since the dark ages [the one in the den has a record player on top and no CD player...its OLD!] and we haven't gotten a new TV/VCR in about 8 years. Figure, this is a good investment because it will last for so long!&quot;

Is that an okay speech to get them to spend about $1100 on something that they won't appreciate? :eek: Maybe just the TV and DVD to start and the speakers later on...I dunno.

EDIT: Changed the TV due to Good Guy's comment. :) Yeah...the panny has an extra digital comb line thingy too...so its cleaner and crisper...at least thats 800.com says thats what that digital comb line thingy does. :p
 

atomicbomberman

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hmm.. The_Good_Guy, I know that! Sony speakers, actually, all compact speakers generally, arn't that loud, specially when it's at full. I'm used to real loud speakers setup. Basically w/ those compact design, most of the &quot;surround&quot; power and lower hamonics are produce by the fat subwoofers.. That's why the sound doesn't feel as.. on to you as full loud speakers setup. Instead of having 2 to 4 speakers that is pounding the heavy bass to you, you have only 1 subwoofer that's delivering the same effect on all 5 channel. Even though Bass sound is suppose to be non-directional, it still makes less realistic. Regular Loud speakers.. as people will say.. have Depth, and that's literarly, the DEPTH of the speakers.. that's why those compact design speakers doesnt' sound as full or as deep or as real, it's because well.. they dont' have DEPTH! But as for the Loudness problem.. well.. since our good friend Zippy here said that he doesn't want anything that's earth shattering, My friend have a similar Sony setup at his house, and believe me, it's more than loud enough. Though.. I think Zippy also need a lesson on how to position the speakers to get the maxium sound/surround effect. I know that traditional Loud speakers and Compact ones uses different method of placement and acostic feeback. So if Zippy does decide to get the compact design ones, I think he should do some research before mounting those things!
 
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zippy go around listen to them and then make your choice.
Obviously.. some people differ in sound quality. Make your own choice. Check sears out they have most of the models, and also BB and CC.
If you got a Goodguys near by try them out too.
 

zippy

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Yeah, I am gonna go listen to a bunch of models this weekend, figure out what best suits me for the price. However, I know I am getting a TV and DVD player now, so which TV?! The JVC or the Panny? The Toshiba SD2200 for DVD??