Some people just arent as into audio as they are video. Other people are on the other end and are total audio snobs. I have heard people use the logitech speakers in a smaller room for a HT option and they sound pretty good.
Some people just arent as into audio as they are video. Other people are on the other end and are total audio snobs. I have heard people use the logitech speakers in a smaller room for a HT option and they sound pretty good.
Originally posted by: funboy42
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh god I need to take a breath HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I have owned several Legit home theater amps. Sony, Harmon, Denon, Pioneer, JVC, KLH, Panasonic and I will tell you this from EXPERANCE the Z5500 would of smoked every one I had before. This includes having all matched speakers and a powerd sub (KLH, MTX, Polk to name a few Ive owned) and for $200 the Z5500 are super hard to beat. Granted with the top of the line recievers they have more power and can make your ears bleed but as far as sound quality and the way the sub reproduces the low ends I am never going to buy a stand alone set UNLESS I have alot of money to aford much better units and much better speakers but I can say without a doubt you will not find anything in the $500 range that can sound as good as the Z5500. Yes maybe louder but not as good. I am am talking from experance and if I had not hooked up the Z5500 as a HT set up myself I would probably say they same thing as you. But since I have and it tottaly threw me for a loop I wont replce it unless I buy a $2k system or beter.
But dont take mine or other people using them as such. Read some of the reviews that made me buy them and try them out. I was originaly going to use them for my PC. After I tried them as a HT set up I had to buy another set for the pc.
Review
Taken from above review:
This system is an absolute mind boggling bargain for those looking to eliminate the need for a separate A/V receiver. The Z-5500 SoundTouch Control Center handles everything except video switching - which typically isn't needed (or found) in a lower-priced setup.) If you're getting into surround sound for the first time, or you'd like a system that can also handle DVDs and CD playback, then you will have a very hard time finding this type of integrated system at this level of performance for less (it's as if you're getting a mini receiver for free.) We congratulate Logitech on the innovation and performance this system delivers at such a reasonable value.
Review
Taken from above review:
Play any DVD movie with an Earth shaking explosion and the answer will be HELL YA!
Not to mention they are sold as Pc/Hometheater speakers
And most importantly your missing he is set at no more then $300 and would like to be at $250. Just deals has them for $190 and can easily pick up a dvd player keeping him at $250 or below. And in that range there is NO HTIB that can touch the sound quality and I dare you to google the Z5500 and come up with one bad review or even one that doesnt say playing dvd's on it doesnt sound kick ass or they wouldnt reccomend using it as a home theater reciever.
For him to buy a decent stand alone the cheapest reciever is going to be around $150 then hes going to need 5 matching speakers and good luck finding that that are not Jensen or KLH POS'S. Not to mention hes going to need a powered sub woffer because a passive one wont do sh!t and a cheap 100 watt one is going to be over $100 and again he is going to need a dvd player. You just cant put it all together for under $300 that matches the Z5500. And the Onkyo. OOOO didnky crappy speakers and a crappy sub. Friends are going to be impressed when they watch a movie on thoes. Every one that comes watche a move at my house cannot belive what they are hearing and most went and bought one.It great if you live in an apartment or have super close neighbors and not like the feeling of explosions in your chest but if not..........every review written on these speak for themselves. And yes some claim they have attached speakers but the new sets being shippied do not so you can use what ever wires you like.
Here matching THX cert speakers with a 188 watt rms sub that will knock the stuff off the walls and plaster from the celing for and sound damnd good doing it, $190 and a $50 dvd player ftw in his price range.
I forgot to also mention if you decide to spend more later you can then migrate the set to your pc and it wouldnt of gone to waste.
No.
And this is exactly why he should get just fronts and a receiver for now, and upgrade as he has the money. It would be an instant upgrade from the TV speakers even without surrounds and a center, not to mention he would have room to grow.
You also have horrible expectations of audio. To say that the Z5500 would smoke "Sony Harmon, Denon, Pioneer, JVC..." is just ludicrous.
a) You are comparing stand-alone receivers to a multimedia/computer "HTIB".
b) Any one of those brands with decent speakers would destroy the logitechs (this is not up for debate here). For fvcks sake, the sats aren't even TM 2-ways.
c) Logitech subs are horribly boomy. They do not reproduce bass well and I am sorry you feel otherwise.
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Yep I figured you were a person that was more into bass and power than actual sound quality and the post above and the reviews cited just prove it. Yes, the Logitechs don't sound bad but their main feature is their power and not sound quality. Hell the satellites are all single driver design and that design simply cannot reproduce with the same dynamic range that your standard two driver speakers that most HTIBs use as a solution much less the three driver or more solutions found in other speaker solutions. In each of the reviews you cited they emphasize how much low end power the Logitechs have over everything else. You don't have to spend $2K to get a decent HT setup, you can do it with under $1K with a Harman Kardon AVR-235 and a Paradigm Cinema 90 setup. So please take your bass damaged eardrums out of this thread please.
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What ever troll. You obviously dont understand the diff between good sound and power unless it cost $1K and is stamped with a brand name. Some day you will be able to understand the value of a dollar and it doesnt have to be brand name to get as good of quality or better. Or that he is looking to spend $300 or less and not over that :disgust:
Or the fact the phaze plug on the design cools the speaker and allows it to reproduce the sound with out the use of another driver. Or the fact that they are THX crt which means in order for them to do so would have to pass a series of tests proving it can reproduce the same sound as the master it was recorded from to be stamped with the THX logo and all done again without the use of other drivers
.Or the fact that not only am I saying they are good but every single review on the net all done by different people who also say they are good and your just and idiot troll with no real knowledge of them and cannot get the point I made above that YES YES YES there is better if you have the money but will not find beter with what he is looking to spend. And you are wrong. I am all about good sound #1, power, and bang for my buck without the masses telling me if it isnt a """" its a piece of crapola and your def if you think otherwise. If it was loud and sounded like sh!t I wouldnt own them at all let alone reccomend them as a very good choice as a ht set up on a budget.
Originally posted by: funboy42
What ever troll. You obviously dont understand the diff between good sound and power unless it cost $1K and is stamped with a brand name. Some day you will be able to understand the value of a dollar and it doesnt have to be brand name to get as good of quality or better. Or that he is looking to spend $300 or less and not over that :disgust:
Or the fact the phaze plug on the design cools the speaker and allows it to reproduce the sound with out the use of another driver. Or the fact that they are THX crt which means in order for them to do so would have to pass a series of tests proving it can reproduce the same sound as the master it was recorded from to be stamped with the THX logo and all done again without the use of other drivers
Or the fact that not only am I saying they are good but every single review on the net all done by different people who also say they are good and your just and idiot troll with no real knowledge of them and cannot get the point I made above that YES YES YES there is better if you have the money but will not find beter with what he is looking to spend. And you are wrong. I am all about good sound #1, power, and bang for my buck without the masses telling me if it isnt a """" its a piece of crapola and your def if you think otherwise. If it was loud and sounded like sh!t I wouldnt own them at all let alone reccomend them as a very good choice as a ht set up on a budget.
You are joking now, right?
This must be one big joke. Fine, you got us. Good one.
ew, HTIB.
personally, i'd build from scratch, slowly upgrading each equipment as money becomes available. start out with 2 speakers (left/right), then a subwoofer, rear speakers, etc. etc.
personally, i'd build from scratch, slowly upgrading each equipment as money becomes available. start out with 2 speakers (left/right), then a subwoofer, rear speakers, etc. etc.
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: funboy42
What ever troll. You obviously dont understand the diff between good sound and power unless it cost $1K and is stamped with a brand name. Some day you will be able to understand the value of a dollar and it doesnt have to be brand name to get as good of quality or better. Or that he is looking to spend $300 or less and not over that :disgust:
Or the fact the phaze plug on the design cools the speaker and allows it to reproduce the sound with out the use of another driver. Or the fact that they are THX crt which means in order for them to do so would have to pass a series of tests proving it can reproduce the same sound as the master it was recorded from to be stamped with the THX logo and all done again without the use of other drivers
Or the fact that not only am I saying they are good but every single review on the net all done by different people who also say they are good and your just and idiot troll with no real knowledge of them and cannot get the point I made above that YES YES YES there is better if you have the money but will not find beter with what he is looking to spend. And you are wrong. I am all about good sound #1, power, and bang for my buck without the masses telling me if it isnt a """" its a piece of crapola and your def if you think otherwise. If it was loud and sounded like sh!t I wouldnt own them at all let alone reccomend them as a very good choice as a ht set up on a budget.
You are joking now, right?
This must be one big joke. Fine, you got us. Good one.
He has to be joking, nobody with any sense at all could come to the conclusions that he is coming to in this thread. I wonder if he happens to know that you can pay the folks at Lucas Studios for the right to use the THX certified logo without actually going through the testing process.
I picked up a refurb Onkyo HT-S780 off their site about a month ago and I'm very satisfied with it for the price I paid. Was something like $230 shipped to my door at the time.
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Ooo... drama! That makes for good comparison shopping.
I've decided to get the Sony Grand WEGA 50" HD Rear Projection LCD for $2100.
That exceeded my TV budget a bit, but that's OK. Back to speakers. I'm not opposed to the Logitech option, but the problem I have is that I have a rather largish LR (18' x 20') and I've never really had anything that filled the room with sound. I've had plenty of "loud" speakers and setups, but none that sounded really "good."
Also, I don't watch a *lot* of 5.1 DD or DTS movies, so spending hundreds of dollars for a one or twice a week activity seems a bit excessive to me. The TV will be used enough by the wife and kids during the day to justify its cost, but I can't be sure the same would be true for a $300-400 audio set up.
Decision, decisions..
I've decided to get the Sony Grand WEGA 50" HD Rear Projection LCD for $2100.
That exceeded my TV budget a bit, but that's OK. Back to speakers. I'm not opposed to the Logitech option, but the problem I have is that I have a rather largish LR (18' x 20') and I've never really had anything that filled the room with sound. I've had plenty of "loud" speakers and setups, but none that sounded really "good."
Also, I don't watch a *lot* of 5.1 DD or DTS movies, so spending hundreds of dollars for a one or twice a week activity seems a bit excessive to me. The TV will be used enough by the wife and kids during the day to justify its cost, but I can't be sure the same would be true for a $300-400 audio set up.
Decision, decisions..
You don't need to watch 5.1 DD or DTS movies to reap the benefits of a decent speaker/receiver setup. A pair of $200 monitors would be immensely better than the speakers in the TV.
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So, what about this refurbished Onkyo HT-S580 for ~$200? Unless I'm misreading something, it comes with the receiver and all 6 speakers, including a 230W, 10" down-firing sub (passive, however), three (L,R,C) 2-way fronts (2 mids, 1 tweeter), and 2-way rears (1 mid, 1 tweeter.)
That should get me started, and I could upgrade the front speakers down the road, then the sub and the rest of the speakers later on.
Opinions?
That should get me started, and I could upgrade the front speakers down the road, then the sub and the rest of the speakers later on.
Opinions?
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OK, now what about cables? I have Series2 TiVo, and I think it only outputs coax and composite. Is the Coax digital?
Would I do this?
Video
Dish Network receiver -> TiVo (RF coaxial)
Tivo -> Onkyo HT-S580 receiver (digital coax or composite)
Onkyo HT-S580 receiver -> TV (composite)
DVD Player -> TV (component)
PC (ATi 9600XT) -> TV ( 15-pin D-Sub (Is this standard VGA or DVI?) )
Audio
Dish Network receiver -> Tivo (RF coaxial)
Tivo -> Onkyo HT-S580 receiver (digital coax or composite)
Onkyo HT-S580 receiver -> TV (composite ?)
DVD Player -> Onkyo HT-S580 receiver (digital optical? digital coax?)
PC (onboard 5.1 audio) -> Onkyo HT-S580 receiver (no clue at this point)
I'm now thoroughly confused. Am I even on the right track? I want all my audio ( TiVo, DVD, GameCube, (occasional PC?) ) to be piped though my audio receiver, and then all the video to be along the highest-quality inputs available.
Any ideas?
Would I do this?
Video
Dish Network receiver -> TiVo (RF coaxial)
Tivo -> Onkyo HT-S580 receiver (digital coax or composite)
Onkyo HT-S580 receiver -> TV (composite)
DVD Player -> TV (component)
PC (ATi 9600XT) -> TV ( 15-pin D-Sub (Is this standard VGA or DVI?) )
Audio
Dish Network receiver -> Tivo (RF coaxial)
Tivo -> Onkyo HT-S580 receiver (digital coax or composite)
Onkyo HT-S580 receiver -> TV (composite ?)
DVD Player -> Onkyo HT-S580 receiver (digital optical? digital coax?)
PC (onboard 5.1 audio) -> Onkyo HT-S580 receiver (no clue at this point)
I'm now thoroughly confused. Am I even on the right track? I want all my audio ( TiVo, DVD, GameCube, (occasional PC?) ) to be piped though my audio receiver, and then all the video to be along the highest-quality inputs available.
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