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GasX

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the most important this is to drag the body back inside your house before the police show up...
 

Danman

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In Florida, there's something called the "Castle Law." Basically states that if someone comes into your house with threatening force, have at it. I have two handguns and a shotgun throughout the house good to go. My wife is also trained on the firearms, so she knows what to do if someone breaks in. :D
 

Demon-Xanth

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If someone breaks into my house, it will be "I am going to start beating you, and I do not know when I'm going to stop." I don't ever think my guns would play into it because it takes time to unpack and load up a rifle, and doesn't take much time to go from one end of my house to the other.

As far as stabbing them 14 times, if I still see movement, I'm gonna keep going.
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: Danman
In Florida, there's something called the "Castle Law." Basically states that if someone comes into your house with threatening force, have at it. I have two handguns and a shotgun throughout the house good to go. My wife is also trained on the firearms, so she knows what to do if someone breaks in. :D

...or catches you with another woman.

Talk about an double-edged sword!

;)

MotionMan
 

Lalakai

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as someone pointed out; laws change by state. General rule of thumb: if you or your family are threatened, you can respond to a degree so that the situation isn't life threatening anymore.

caveats to that (not sexist, but this is taught in the course): a female having to defend herself against a male attacker, has much more flexibility in responding. If the attacker is empty handed and twice her size, she is more in the right, shooting the attacker. The opposite to that: male being attacked by empty handed female half his size, will have more problem going with "i felt my life was threatened".

children in the house add more factors to it, but it is generally easier to go with the defense theory.

definitely review your state laws; call the county sheriff, or local police and ask them.

most police will also tell you that if you get into a shooting situation, make sure that the attacker is definitely out of it; for the defender, it's always easier when there's only "one" side of the story that will have to be reviewed.
 

Foxery

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Originally posted by: Lalakai

definitely review your state laws; call the county sheriff, or local police and ask them.

most police will also tell you that if you get into a shooting situation, make sure that the attacker is definitely out of it; for the defender, it's always easier when there's only "one" side of the story that will have to be reviewed.

This is the way I've heard it - dead men tell no tales, but injured men can sue. Wish I knew the official answer for my state. Then again, would you rather be in court or in the ground?

 

Safeway

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Jun 22, 2004
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In Texas and Florida, you can kill in self-defense or to protect your property, no questions asked.

In Texas, if you come home and find an intruder holding your laptop, you can shoot and kill him, even if he was not directly threatening your life.
 

adairusmc

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Originally posted by: Safeway
In Texas and Florida, you can kill in self-defense or to protect your property, no questions asked.

In Texas, if you come home and find an intruder holding your laptop, you can shoot and kill him, even if he was not directly threatening your life.

:thumbsup:

That is the way it should be everywhere.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Safeway
In Texas and Florida, you can kill in self-defense or to protect your property, no questions asked.

In Texas, if you come home and find an intruder holding your laptop, you can shoot and kill him, even if he was not directly threatening your life.

I feel bad for the guy delivering a Dell.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Danman
In Florida, there's something called the "Castle Law." Basically states that if someone comes into your house with threatening force, have at it. I have two handguns and a shotgun throughout the house good to go. My wife is also trained on the firearms, so she knows what to do if someone breaks in. :D

Shit, I thought the castle law meant I didn't need to pull a permit for my moat and porticullis.

 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Safeway
In Texas and Florida, you can kill in self-defense or to protect your property, no questions asked.

In Texas, if you come home and find an intruder holding your laptop, you can shoot and kill him, even if he was not directly threatening your life.

I feel bad for the guy delivering a Dell.

"DUDE! You're getting a D..*BLAM*...[falls on floor]"
 

Pacfanweb

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Jan 2, 2000
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In all honesty, if I hear someone break in downstairs at night, and I'm upstairs with my family, and if my dogs let them up the stairs, (they might, they're getting old), they will be receiving a shotgun blast to the torso as they turn on the landing to take the second set of steps.

I'll let the cops and lawyers sort everything else out after my family is safe.
 

ScottMac

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: alkemyst
In 'weird' states like California, some lawyer can spin anything into a civil suit.

Amen.

MotionMan (A California lawyer who defends (i.e does not bring) such suits.)

Oddly enough, California is (Was?) the only state in the country where you cannot be held civilly liable in self-defense cases ("self defense" as ruled by the prosecutor).

I don't know if California has changed, or if other states have joined in, but that was the case last time I looked (~10 years ago).

The so-called "Make my day law" in Colorado put home defense in an absolute "self-defense" category, but it provided no protection against civil liability. Same for Texas, I think ... it's been a while.

Guns, knives or assault mops, the rules are generally pretty much the same (as mentioned) you must fear for the life or limb of yourself or others within your home. Many state require retreat and continued impending threat (you lock yourself in teh bathroom and the intruder kicks in the door or shoots through the door).

Whatever. The old "Judged by 12 is better than carried by six" rule still probably applies.

Unfortunately, someone can sue you without paying a dime out of their pocket, but defense lawyers are hundreds of dollars an hour, whether you're guilty or innocent.

 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: ScottMac
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: alkemyst
In 'weird' states like California, some lawyer can spin anything into a civil suit.

Amen.

MotionMan (A California lawyer who defends (i.e does not bring) such suits.)

Oddly enough, California is (Was?) the only state in the country where you cannot be held civilly liable in self-defense cases ("self defense" as ruled by the prosecutor).

I don't know if California has changed, or if other states have joined in, but that was the case last time I looked (~10 years ago).

The so-called "Make my day law" in Colorado put home defense in an absolute "self-defense" category, but it provided no protection against civil liability. Same for Texas, I think ... it's been a while.

Guns, knives or assault mops, the rules are generally pretty much the same (as mentioned) you must fear for the life or limb of yourself or others within your home. Many state require retreat and continued impending threat (you lock yourself in teh bathroom and the intruder kicks in the door or shoots through the door).

Whatever. The old "Judged by 12 is better than carried by six" rule still probably applies.

Unfortunately, someone can sue you without paying a dime out of their pocket, but defense lawyers are hundreds of dollars an hour, whether you're guilty or innocent.

never hear that for California.

One of the reasons jaywalking is so ticketed in CA is because if you get hit it's possible to sue both plazas you were crossing between for not providing a safe passage, the police for not being present, the EMT/Paramedics for any delay, etc.

There isn't much in any state stopping civil suits. Even then the beauty of a civil case is you can sue for something else even unrelated if you care too.


You can sue if you get hit jaywalking