Home self-defense question...

[Mikey]

If an intruder comes into your home, will taking action with a knife and killing them be considered illegal? I'm wondering this because shooting an intruder is deemed OK under the same scenario.

 

[IronWing]

Knife is okay. It's when you have them subdued and you go back to the shop to fetch the hole saw that you risk crossing the line.

 

[tranceport]

Originally posted by: ironwing
Knife is okay. It's when you have them subdued and you go back to the shop to fetch the hole saw that you risk crossing the line.

qft lol

 

[Squisher]

Just remember, "He fell on it."

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: tranceport

Originally posted by: ironwing
Knife is okay. It's when you have them subdued and you go back to the shop to fetch the hole saw that you risk crossing the line.

qft lol

Yeah, if they find the intruder bound and gagged and full of stab wounds you might have a problem. :laugh:

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Mikey
If an intruder comes into your home, will taking action with a knife and killing them be considered illegal? I'm wondering this because shooting an intruder is deemed OK under the same scenario.

you should also check the laws for your state.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: Squisher
Just remember, "He fell on it."

...on his back...

...14 times.

MotionMan

 

[Newfie]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: Squisher
Just remember, "He fell on it."

...on his back...

...14 times.

MotionMan

<.<...........>.>

He was Clumsy......

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Newfie

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: Squisher
Just remember, "He fell on it."

...on his back...

...14 times.

MotionMan

<.<...........>.>

He was Clumsy......

I had a sign posted.





it said
Warning..............................Knives

 

[invidia]

You have the right to kill or severely injury/subdue anyone who threatens your/family's life in your own home.








This only applies to complete strangers, no wives, brothers, sisters, dog, cat, etc.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: ironwing
Knife is okay. It's when you have them subdued and you go back to the shop to fetch the hole saw that you risk crossing the line.

oh shit...any lawyers in the house? Wish I read this about 10 mins ago.

 

[OS]

The specifics depends on the state, but generally if you ever have to injure someone in self defense, you generally must do so for fear of your life or serious injury.
You should not "kill" in self defense.
IANAL

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: invidia
You have the right to kill or severely injury/subdue anyone who threatens your/family's life in your own home.








This only applies to complete strangers, no wives, brothers, sisters, dog, cat, etc.

Not exactly. You (probably) have the right to use reasonable and necessary non-deadly or deadly force to protect yourself or a third party from the imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury. Refer to your state law for specifics.

Originally posted by: OS

The specifics depends on the state, but generally if you ever have to injure someone in self defense, you generally must do so for fear of your life or serious injury.
You should not "kill" in self defense.
IANAL

Bingo.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: OS

The specifics depends on the state, but generally if you ever have to injure someone in self defense, you generally must do so for fear of your life or serious injury.
You should not deliberately "kill" in self defense.
IANAL

fixed.

Sometimes killing a person was unfortunate. As long as you weren't pulling a Dexter, most courts will side with the person living in the home that was invaded.

In 'weird' states like California, some lawyer can spin anything into a civil suit.

If someone breaks in my house while I am there the last thing I am going to worry about is 'Will this be too much force?'...it's in one's best interest to immobilize the assailant as quickly as possible should he be accompanied by someone else. Once you have done this, you best bet is to call 911 and secure yourself in case he does have friends outside.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
In 'weird' states like California, some lawyer can spin anything into a civil suit.

Amen.

MotionMan (A California lawyer who defends (i.e does not bring) such suits.)

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: OS

The specifics depends on the state, but generally if you ever have to injure someone in self defense, you generally must do so for fear of your life or serious injury.
You should not deliberately "kill" in self defense.
IANAL

fixed.

Sometimes killing a person was unfortunate. As long as you weren't pulling a Dexter, most courts will side with the person living in the home that was invaded.

In 'weird' states like California, some lawyer can spin anything into a civil suit.

If someone breaks in my house while I am there the last thing I am going to worry about is 'Will this be too much force?'...it's in one's best interest to immobilize the assailant as quickly as possible should he be accompanied by someone else. Once you have done this, you best bet is to call 911 and secure yourself in case he does have friends outside.

It is mostly semantics, what i am saying is the intent of self defense is not to kill, but to stop. One should not say they "killed" in self defense.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: OS

The specifics depends on the state, but generally if you ever have to injure someone in self defense, you generally must do so for fear of your life or serious injury.
You should not "kill" in self defense.
IANAL

Bingo.

BTW, thanks for the holster still

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: OS
It is mostly semantics, what i am saying is the intent of self defense is not to kill, but to stop. One should not say they "killed" in self defense.

I "stopped" him in self defense. He will not be "starting" again.

MotionMan

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: OS

The specifics depends on the state, but generally if you ever have to injure someone in self defense, you generally must do so for fear of your life or serious injury.
You should not "kill" in self defense.
IANAL

Bingo.

BTW, thanks for the holster still

:thumbsup:

I just ordered a Galco CarryLok for my Glock 36..

 

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: OS
It is mostly semantics, what i am saying is the intent of self defense is not to kill, but to stop. One should not say they "killed" in self defense.

I "stopped" him in self defense. He will not be "starting" again.

MotionMan

I *stab* made *stab* sure *stab* of *stab* that.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: OS
It is mostly semantics, what i am saying is the intent of self defense is not to kill, but to stop. One should not say they "killed" in self defense.

I "stopped" him in self defense. He will not be "starting" again.

MotionMan

I *stab* made *stab* sure *stab* of *stab* that.

Have you even read the thread!?!? I may have stabbed him the first time, but the next 13 were him falling on the knife!

MotionMan

 

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: OS
It is mostly semantics, what i am saying is the intent of self defense is not to kill, but to stop. One should not say they "killed" in self defense.

I "stopped" him in self defense. He will not be "starting" again.

MotionMan

I *stab* made *stab* sure *stab* of *stab* that.

Have you even read the thread!?!? I may have stabbed him the first time, but the next 13 were him falling on the knife!

MotionMan

I know! he fell on the knife everytime...i never stabbed him intentionally.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: OS
It is mostly semantics, what i am saying is the intent of self defense is not to kill, but to stop. One should not say they "killed" in self defense.

I "stopped" him in self defense. He will not be "starting" again.

MotionMan

I *stab* made *stab* sure *stab* of *stab* that.

Have you even read the thread!?!? I may have stabbed him the first time, but the next 13 were him falling on the knife!

MotionMan

I know! he fell on the knife everytime...i never stabbed him intentionally.

no no no...you left after stabbing him to go get help, it was barely a flesh wound and he needed first aid. When you came back you aren't sure what happened, but it was a mess.

 

[Lithium381]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: OS
It is mostly semantics, what i am saying is the intent of self defense is not to kill, but to stop. One should not say they "killed" in self defense.

I "stopped" him in self defense. He will not be "starting" again.

MotionMan

I *stab* made *stab* sure *stab* of *stab* that.

Have you even read the thread!?!? I may have stabbed him the first time, but the next 13 were him falling on the knife!

MotionMan

I know! he fell on the knife everytime...i never stabbed him intentionally.

no no no...you left after stabbing him to go get help, it was barely a flesh wound and he needed first aid. When you came back you aren't sure what happened, but it was a mess.

oh man, i just LOL'd.....just imagining the scene almost made me spit out my drink!

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: Lithium381

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: OS
It is mostly semantics, what i am saying is the intent of self defense is not to kill, but to stop. One should not say they "killed" in self defense.

I "stopped" him in self defense. He will not be "starting" again.

MotionMan

I *stab* made *stab* sure *stab* of *stab* that.

Have you even read the thread!?!? I may have stabbed him the first time, but the next 13 were him falling on the knife!

MotionMan

I know! he fell on the knife everytime...i never stabbed him intentionally.

no no no...you left after stabbing him to go get help, it was barely a flesh wound and he needed first aid. When you came back you aren't sure what happened, but it was a mess.

oh man, i just LOL'd.....just imagining the scene almost made me spit out my drink!

I left out the part where I tell the cops that I hogtied him AFTER he stabbed himself in the back 14 times.

MotionMan