Home Schooling: Thoughts?

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Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: mugs
Homeschooling because the local schools suck: fine
Homeschooling to keep your kids away from the realities of the world: idiotic

And it's the latter situation that the aforementioned family is in. We live in an area that has 4 or 5 very good public school systems as well as a number of private schools. Of those 5 public schools, 2 of them are the best in the state. None are very far from our area. It's pretty difficult to take issue with any of these school systems, especially those two. I don't know what the open enrollment situation is at all of them, but I know that 2 of them accept students from outside the district. On top of that, the family is pretty well off. It's not like they couldn't afford private schools if they wanted to send them there.

I'm convinced that their situation is the product of the father wanting complete control of their lives. I don't know the mother well enough to make any kind of reasonable assessment of where she fits in the picture; I just know she's a little off her rocker.
 

Biggerhammer

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Most of my nephews/nieces have had some homeschool, some public school. There are advantages to either.

Outside of cult homeschoolers, most homeschooled kids have considerably more social skills... because they're not locked into a peer group. They can talk intelligently with adults, for instance, where their public-school peers are getting the same piercings and tats as everybody else (to show how different they are).

Homeschooling ain't perfect, but it has enough going for it that we're thinking about alternating- one year of public school, one year of homeschooling.
 

BCYL

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My coworker home school her kids, but she also works all day... so I have to listen to her yelling at her kids to do their work all day over the phone...
 

FoBoT

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most parents don't have the committment or knowledge to properly home school, at least not past 8th grade
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: BCYL
My coworker home school her kids, but she also works all day... so I have to listen to her yelling at her kids to do their work all day over the phone...

the kids are home alone? :Q :confused: :Q
 

ch33zw1z

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I was home schooled for a year, and went to christian school for high school(where I met many other home schoolers). I have to say that it's one of the worst scenarios I've found myself in. Not only do you have little to no friends, but you're under the constant scrutiny of your parents...which is bad enough already. You will find that most home schoolers have parents that are controlling, religious, and a little out of touch with what the world is like, plus their very frightened of it also.

Being through these things has tought me much, but left me with way to much to learn when I got into the real world...college, work, etc...

I will be a parent shortly, and plan to be more honest with not only my child...but with myself.

in short, home schooling sucks :)
 

Crescent13

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Sounds to me like the family is messed up. I'm homeschooled and my sister is too. Until I turned about....hmmmm...around 8 I was pretty shy and didn't really want to talk to people. Didn't socialize much. Then I started going to a group for homeschoolers and kept going for about 5 years (quit last year). Now i'm pretty normal. Most people I talk to just think I'm a normal teenager (aside from the fact that I'm geeky, and have too much time for computers, and love technical stuff like math). I'm in 9th grade now :D

EDIT: Homeschooling rocks!!!! I pwn most people 9th grade and 10th grade at all subjects, my parents let me wake up any time (before 10) and I get all my work done, and graded on the computer. My main source of socialization comes from ATOT now.

EDIT2: and my parents don't control me much. (was about to say "at all" but they do control me some). Yeah my mom is a bit out of toutch with the world, and thinks that I'm too young to be liking girls, and that girls (well 1 girl) is too young to be liking me. But overall it's MUCH better than public school.
 

Zebo

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I have no studies but I know lots of home schooled kids.. mine are freinds with them.. seem very normal, polite and well adjusted. I think there are some outliers but in general any parent who takes an active role with thier children will raise sucessful adults. And home schooling certainly does that. (provide an active caring role)
 

JDrake

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I wouldn't wanna be homeschooled, but then again, it would be easier and you could sleep in
 

Queasy

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Sounds like that family is a little screwy whether you consider them to be homeschooled or not...

There's a family in my neighborhood that is homeschooled. The oldest is missing some sort of antibody that makes it easy for him to get sick so the parents do all the schooling for he and his younger siblings. Very intelligent family and very nice. The kids are friendly and don't seem to have any anti-socialness in them.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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I am 22 now and think my kids will be either going to private school (not likely) or will have a combination of public + homeschooling (such as two hours/day of additional instruction).
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: mugs
Homeschooling because the local schools suck: fine
Homeschooling to keep your kids away from the realities of the world: idiotic

And it's the latter situation that the aforementioned family is in. We live in an area that has 4 or 5 very good public school systems as well as a number of private schools. Of those 5 public schools, 2 of them are the best in the state. None are very far from our area. It's pretty difficult to take issue with any of these school systems, especially those two. I don't know what the open enrollment situation is at all of them, but I know that 2 of them accept students from outside the district. On top of that, the family is pretty well off. It's not like they couldn't afford private schools if they wanted to send them there.

I'm convinced that their situation is the product of the father wanting complete control of their lives. I don't know the mother well enough to make any kind of reasonable assessment of where she fits in the picture; I just know she's a little off her rocker.

IMO no reason to home school if you have great public schools in the area with great tests scores, graduation rates and college matriculation - only reason to is to breed disfunction or highly religious. (that may be the same thing)

 

dullard

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Originally posted by: Crescent13
Until I turned about....hmmmm...around 8 I was pretty shy and didn't really want to talk to people. Didn't socialize much. Then I started going to a group for homeschoolers and kept going for about 5 years (quit last year). Now i'm pretty normal.
So you were shy, didn't socialize much, UNTIL you started to go to a school (ie a group for homeschoolers). Then you became normal. This just backs up our concern about homeschooling.

 

Crescent13

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^^

yeah now I see your point. But this was mainly socialization, no guns, risk of dying, insane amounts of homework, etc...
 

dullard

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I agree with you to a point, Crescent13. Homeschooling can be quite good. But for the best results, you need a combination of both worlds.
Originally posted by: Crescent13
no guns, risk of dying
Do you realize that the #1 safest place for a child is in school? It isn't like you risk dying by going to school (well maybe the traveling to school part is risky if you ride by car or drive, but once you are there you are quite safe).
 

Crescent13

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Originally posted by: dullard
I agree with you to a point, Crescent13. Homeschooling can be quite good. But for the best results, you need a combination of both worlds.
Originally posted by: Crescent13
no guns, risk of dying
Do you realize that the #1 safest place for a child is in school?

I agree 100%!

Um no it actually isn't. A 10th grader that I know that goes to public school is having TONS of problems with gangs right now. They have threatened to kill about 3 people there, and they bring knives all the time. School is very dangerous.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: Crescent13
Originally posted by: dullard
I agree with you to a point, Crescent13. Homeschooling can be quite good. But for the best results, you need a combination of both worlds.
Originally posted by: Crescent13
no guns, risk of dying
Do you realize that the #1 safest place for a child is in school?

I agree 100%!

Um no it actually isn't. A 10th grader that I know that goes to public school is having TONS of problems with gangs right now. They have threatened to kill about 3 people there, and they bring knives all the time. School is very dangerous.

Yup, the Gwinnett County schools in Georgia got in trouble a couple of years ago because they were under-reporting on-campus incidents (fights, thefts, threats, etc). This is considered to be one of the best county school systems in Georgia. Atlanta City Schools are worse.
 

1sikbITCH

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My aunt and uncle were both school teachers. They homeschool all 7 of their kids (now aged 17 down to 5 or so). They are extremely tightnit, but seem to be socialized, probably because there's so many of them. When you talk to the children they aren't shy and will even approach you on their own to start a conversation. They all play sports, take music lessons, are active in church/Sunday school, etc.

The only thing that's weird is that they are a whole lot closer than a normal family. The kids all hold hands and play together. You never see them not getting along. Even the 17 year old kid will hug his father in the middle of public just to say goodbye. If I ever tried that with my old man back in the day I'd be eating a knuckle sandwich :D
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
I've always thought it deprives the child of vital social events and interactions. Recently I've come to know a would-be-senior (12th grade) who is home schooled, as well as his Dad, Mom, and younger brothers.

His dad is a control freak and he would be like that if he were in public school. I think you are wrong about saying homeschooled kids lack social interaction. Properly done, home schooled student participate in community sports leagues, and they regularly get together with other home schooled children and take field trips. As far as whther the educational experience is better, if the parent is a good teacher and you can't afford a private school then go for it.

Recently in Nashville, a senior police officer was interviewed and said he would not ever have a child of his in the Nashville public school system. Some are just pretty bad.
 

BCYL

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: BCYL
My coworker home school her kids, but she also works all day... so I have to listen to her yelling at her kids to do their work all day over the phone...

the kids are home alone? :Q :confused: :Q

I'm not entirely sure, i think some babysitter (or a relative) is there with them during the day... I just keep hearing:

"No do your work now! I want it done before 1pm! blah blah blah..."