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Lifer
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I think so, based on what some of the options are in home network setup. One choice is to have all computers connect to the internet through a particular computer. This would leave me to assume that these computers could also file share.

I would think you would need 3 network cards in one of your computers (1 to your internet source, if you have one that is, and 2 to the other computers on the network)
 

JackMDS

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May be you should clarify.

There are ways to do so. However it depends on what is on your mind.


 

dwifuzi

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I have that configuration. It works for a month, but now, it stops working. I don't know why. I used the wizard a thousand times on the three comps, but still no go, I can't even file share. I have a netgear 5 port switch and 3 comps each with a nic. All nicely connected with cat5e cables. Please help me out. I know that there is a way to manually configure, but I don't know how. I have been screwing around with ip and stuffs, but no go. HELP
 

rw120555

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I have that configuration. It works for a month, but now, it stops working. I don't know why. I used the wizard a thousand times on the three comps, but still no go, I can't even file share. I have a netgear 5 port switch and 3 comps each with a nic. All nicely connected with cat5e cables. Please help me out. I know that there is a way to manually configure, but I don't know how. I have been screwing around with ip and stuffs, but no go. HELP

dwifuzi, check these out:

Windows XP Network Troubleshooting

Also, don't rule out the possibility of a bad switch or cable.

As for the original question, sure you can do it, but why do you want to? A multiple nics in 1 machine option might work. You could put wireless client cards on each machine and make it a peer to peer network. Or, you could put cheapie HomePna cards in each machine and connect via phoneline. There doesn't even have to be a regular phoneline, you can just connect the machines via phone cords. Tell us what the goal is, and maybe we can refine the advice.
 

dwifuzi

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hi, as for cables and switch. They are all new. The little LEDS are all on. It blinks and stuffs sometimes. Anyway, I just want to do dialup sharing and file sharing. That is all. I really have no idea what can be wrong about this
 

dwifuzi

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How do I setup a network manually by assigning my own IP address? I want to do file sharing and internet connection sharing also? How do I do this? I know I can just type in the ip address, but what about gateway, what should I put? How about if I put:

first comp: ip=192.168.1.1
gateway= 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.1.3
second comp: ip=192.168.1.2
gateway= 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.3
third comp: ip= 192.168.1.3
gateway= 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2


All to the same workgroup name.
Is this correct?
 

rw120555

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dwifuzi, I suspect you'd be a lot happier if you just got a router. It would make things simpler for you, and would work better. But, to go the route you are suggesting, first check out the AN Networkin g FAQS, especially the one for basic options for internet connection sharing. Option 2, for using a switch, sounds like what you want.

Where is the internet feed coming from in your setup? Is the dsl/cable feeding in to a machine which then provides the internet for all the other machines, or is the dsl plugging in to your switch, or what?

The main thing I think is wrong with your setup is the gateways -- I think the gateway should be the IP of wherever the internet is coming from, not the other machines. Or, maybe you shouldn't specify anything at all, and just let the ICS software take care of it.

Read through the AN Faqs and then get back if that doesn't do the trick.
 

dwifuzi

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no, I have just a usual dialup, but it will be cool to be able to share, cause my sister usually just do chatting. So.. sharing will be nice. But right now, I tried to ping, I got "request timed out". no go. I don't know what is going on. I have used DHCP instead of configuring my own. but still no go. So.. if I just put the ip down and leave out the gateway, everything will be fine?
 

dwifuzi

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YAAOOAHhoooo. this is cool. I got it to work. Do you know how? It's so simple. I unplugged the power from the switch and replugged it back in and it works now. Wahhoooo. Thanks the help everyone
I really appreciate it. I am gonna go try setup my own ip instead of DHCP, since DHCP slows comps down. it's wierd. You have to wait like 2 mins after restart to see your network stuffs. anyway, wish me luck. hehe... bye now.. Thank you
 

strikermike

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Finally got things to work. Seems that the key was to bridge the 2 network cards in the computer that is connected to the internet.
The network wizard succeded on the second try. These wizards are great, but they don't help you learn anything. Does anyone know how to bridge network cards under XP Pro.
 

rw120555

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SO, are you using multiple NICs or something? Anyway, to bridge without the wizard:

Open Network Connections
Select the connections you want to bridge, e.g. two ethernet cards, ethernet and hpna, whatever
Right click -- and choose bridge connections.

Does that sound like what you want?

In case you are interested and haven't seen it yet, here is an excerpt from the WinXP help about the logic behind bridging. In your case, you may be bridging multiple ethernet networks.

Using a mixed network environment. When planning your home or small office network, you might want to use a combination of Ethernet, wireless, and home phoneline network adapter (HPNA). For example, you might have two computers in adjoining rooms that are connected using Ethernet adapters and a network hub. If you have other computers in other areas of your home or small office, you can connect those computers to the network using a home phoneline network adapter (HPNA) or wireless network adapter.

In this example, there are two computers in adjoining rooms that are connected using Ethernet network adapters, cables, and a hub. One of these computers is running either Windows XP Home Edition or Windows XP Professional. There is a third computer in your child's bedroom, and a fourth computer in the den. The bedroom and den computers each have a home phoneline network adapter (HPNA) installed and are on a network together. To connect the two HPNA computers with the Ethernet computers, install a home phoneline network adapter (HPNA) in the Ethernet computer that is running Windows XP. If your laptop computer has a wireless network adapter, you can join it to the network as well by installing a wireless network adapter in one other computer on the network that is running Windows XP.

In a mixed network, also called a multi-segment network, one or more computers have multiple network adapters. Windows XP Professional and Windows XP Home Edition have network bridging, which allows the computers and devices on each of the network segments to communicate with each other. Without network bridging, the computers connected using Ethernet can only talk to each other, and the same for computers using HPNA or wireless. Network bridging makes each of these network segments transparent and appear as one continuous network.

By default, the Network Setup Wizard automatically creates a bridge when multiple network adapters are found on a Windows XP computer. The Network Setup Wizard does not bridge a network adapter that is connected to an external DSL or cable modem.

 

strikermike

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Hi rw120555,
That is exactly what I was taling about . Thanks for your help. It was so simple I am embarrasssed that I did not think of that. Do you know if you cabn Bridge adapters under windows 2000. Thanks for your help.
 

rw120555

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I don't know about 2000. I think bridging has great potential, in that your network doesn't have to just be wireless or ethernet or hpna; you can mix and match, using ethernet as much as possible and wireless or hpna as needed. The main downside of the WinXP approach I described is that (a) I'm not sure when it became a feature, so you may have to have at least one WinXP machine to pull it off (b) the bridge machine has to always be on, otherwise you lose your bridge.

But, I think you can usually come up with a hardware alternative that will work instead. For example, you could have probably used a router or a switch. An hpna/ethernet bridge such as the Netgear PE102 could be used to connect ethernet and hpna networks. I think a hardware approach is generally better but if you don't want to spend the money and don't mind leaving the bridge machine on all the time, the WinXP bridging can be fine. I use it some myself to connect an hpna and ethernet mini-network.