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home network using verizon 4G and ethernet bridge

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spdfreak said:
So, I bought one of these for 15.00 the other day and it supports DD-WRT but several of the user reviews have people using it as a bridge with the standard firmware. Is there any good reason to use DD-WRT as opposed to how it comes out of the box?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833166064
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Well, DD-WRT generally gives you more features than the stock firmware, but it has its quirks as well. Lower wireless performance among them.

If stock firmware will do what you need, then I would keep it at stock, unless you have problems. (Uptime issues.)
 
I've spent a couple hours trying to get this thing to work with the stock firmware. I can get it to connect to the hotspot on the phone (I can tell because the phone lists the number of users) but it won't actually let me on the internet through the router- wired or wireless. The phone shows a default gateway, dhcp server and dns server as 192.168.137.1. I set the router's IP address as 192.168.137.2 with dhcp off. Anything obvious I'm missing? I can try DD-WRT since they have some pretty detailed guides.
 
spdfreak said:
I've spent a couple hours trying to get this thing to work with the stock firmware. I can get it to connect to the hotspot on the phone (I can tell because the phone lists the number of users) but it won't actually let me on the internet through the router- wired or wireless. The phone shows a default gateway, dhcp server and dns server as 192.168.137.1. I set the router's IP address as 192.168.137.2 with dhcp off. Anything obvious I'm missing? I can try DD-WRT since they have some pretty detailed guides.
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It depends how your using the router to connect to the phone. If the router is configured to use the wireless for its Internet in a router setting, you need to change your IP of the router to a different subnet other than 192.168.137.x. Try changing it to 192.168.1.1 and see if it works.
 
kevnich2 said:
It depends how your using the router to connect to the phone. If the router is configured to use the wireless for its Internet in a router setting, you need to change your IP of the router to a different subnet other than 192.168.137.x. Try changing it to 192.168.1.1 and see if it works.
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I'm trying to get it to work as a wireless ethernet bridge- like a media bridge for hooking up wired devices to a wireless AP (phone). I have wireless adapters on all the computers and PS3 but it is too slow to stream HD video, so I want to use the router in bridge mode to connect to my gigabit switch.
This is what I want to do- http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Client_Bridged
 
Just want to chime in that I am watching this thread -- have a Lumia 928 (first phone with 4G for me as well) and holding onto unlimited data as well. Could be some very useful info in here by the end.

FWIW, I don't think Verizon has ever just taken away grandfathered plans (outside of the Alltel acquisition). I am still on an old grandfathered America's Choice II family plan with 250 texts and unlimited data. There may come a time (perhaps when they phase out CDMA completely) when they have to make some sweeping changes, but I think the talk of them dumping unlimited anytime soon is premature.
 
So, the update on all this is that I can get internet through the wifi adapters and I have a wired lan through the router/switch but I can't get internet through the wired lan. Not sure what I have set wrong, but apparently it is difficult to get an xbox or PS3 to connect through the phone's hotspot as well. Maybe Verizon has a way of blocking it. Right now, the phone's ip is 192.168.137.1. The router is in bridge mode and connects to the phone but can't get internet. It is on 192.168.137.2. I have dhcp off on the router since there is no way to turn it off on the phone- (I've tried it enabled, too) with the ethernet cards set up on fixed ip's of 192.168.137.110 and 125. I sort of have what I want but it is crude. If I use fixed ip's on the ethernet cards, I could connect them direct to the switch and not use the router at all, I suppose. Any suggestions on a more elegant solution?
 
Maybe you could configure your devices in a way that uses your router as an access point. That is, set your router internal IP address to something like 192.168.1.1 and the external to your phones IP (192.168.137.2). You could turn on DHCP on your router, or configure statically, and have all devices default gateway as the routers internal IP (192.168.1.1). Provided there is a routing table entry in the router for outside traffic that would direct it towards your phones IP, you should have separate networks, where your internal traffic does not go through your phone, but anything internet bound would be directed through your phone.

Move stuff around between computers and the phone is unaware, but as soon as traffic is outbound it just works like an Internet router. Should also solve your PS3 problem. Make sure that you remember to keep setting separate for wired and wireless, as both cannot be actively doing the same thing at the same time.

Think this might also be a good read: http://www.ni.com/white-paper/12558/en/
 
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spdfreak said:
So, the update on all this is that I can get internet through the wifi adapters and I have a wired lan through the router/switch but I can't get internet through the wired lan. Not sure what I have set wrong, but apparently it is difficult to get an xbox or PS3 to connect through the phone's hotspot as well. Maybe Verizon has a way of blocking it. Right now, the phone's ip is 192.168.137.1. The router is in bridge mode and connects to the phone but can't get internet. It is on 192.168.137.2. I have dhcp off on the router since there is no way to turn it off on the phone- (I've tried it enabled, too) with the ethernet cards set up on fixed ip's of 192.168.137.110 and 125. I sort of have what I want but it is crude. If I use fixed ip's on the ethernet cards, I could connect them direct to the switch and not use the router at all, I suppose. Any suggestions on a more elegant solution?
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Well let's do a little network troubleshooting. List one of your computer's ipconfig outputs, specifically the default gateway that you have assigned? Second, when connected through your router, can you ping 192.168.137.1?
 
I can't ping the phone through the router even though the phone shows it is connected... Here's the ipconfig- the wireless adapter settings are what shows up by just connecting to the phone's hotspot.
I tried using googles dns on the ethernet card since some people have apparently had luck getting their PS3 working by doing that... but I've tried using the phones default dns as well.

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Office
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : mshome.net

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 6E-1C-A2-00-05-30
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Wireless Lite-N Client Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 68-1C-A2-00-05-33
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::bd6e:8714:66c7:e2a5%13(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.137.113(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, July 01, 2013 11:24:57 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, July 08, 2013 3:56:46 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.137.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.137.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 334818360
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-16-26-8D-40-50-E5-49-5E-43-67

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.137.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 50-E5-49-5E-43-76
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::3cfe:8780:eadf:8c50%10(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.137.100(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, July 01, 2013 3:58:39 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, July 01, 2013 5:58:39 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.137.2
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.137.2
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 240182601
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-16-26-8D-40-50-E5-49-5E-43-67

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 8.8.8.8
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter isatap.mshome.net:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:9d38:953c:20ea:36d8:3f57:769b(Pref
erred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::20ea:36d8:3f57:769b%11(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter isatap.{82EDBFB2-E7EF-4A8A-8F3C-3DD2B7DF6141}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{C44A5BF9-7EE1-4EB8-A618-951152FA0707}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
 
lif_andi said:
Maybe you could configure your devices in a way that uses your router as an access point. That is, set your router internal IP address to something like 192.168.1.1 and the external to your phones IP (192.168.137.2). You could turn on DHCP on your router, or configure statically, and have all devices default gateway as the routers internal IP (192.168.1.1). Provided there is a routing table entry in the router for outside traffic that would direct it towards your phones IP, you should have separate networks, where your internal traffic does not go through your phone, but anything internet bound would be directed through your phone.

Move stuff around between computers and the phone is unaware, but as soon as traffic is outbound it just works like an Internet router. Should also solve your PS3 problem. Make sure that you remember to keep setting separate for wired and wireless, as both cannot be actively doing the same thing at the same time.

Think this might also be a good read: http://www.ni.com/white-paper/12558/en/
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I wouldn't mind it set up this way if it will work. Here's how it is set up now- comes out of the box with the lan set to 192.168.1.1
These are the router options- right now set to wireless bridge.

Operation Mode
Wireless Router: Wireless AP / Router
Wireless Repeater: Wireless AP / Wireless Repeater
Wireless Bridge: Wireless AP / Wireless Bridge

Status
Firmware Version:
3.12.15 Build 110907 Rel.37190n
Hardware Version:
RNX-N150RT v1 00000000
LAN
MAC Address:
68-1C-A2-00-8B-2E
IP Address:
192.168.137.2
Subnet Mask:
255.255.255.0
Wireless
Wireless Radio: Enable
Operation Mode: Wireless Bridge
Local SSID NOKIA wifi
Bridges SSID NOKIA wifi
Channel: 6
Channel Width: Automatic
Max Tx Rate: 150Mbps
MAC Address: 68-1C-A2-00-8B-2E
Bridge Status: Run
Traffic Statistics
Received Sent
Bytes: 0 0
Packets: 0 0
 
First of all, you have seperate default gateways for each of your NICs. This will not work, or work poorly. You can try setting your default gateway on both nics manually to your router, might be worth a shot.

Second, you should start by figuring out how exactly you want your network to handle traffic. If you like the simple configuration I proposed you should start by eliminating other devices, and just focus on the connection between your router and your phone. You will need to change your router settings to actually route to get other devices to connect with your phone. To do that you need to find 2 IP addressable interfaces on your router.

This might mean that you will be forced to use wired on one side, and wireless on the other, since, without knowing the details of your router, I assume it only has one wireless IP addressable interface. The fastest way I see for your network to function is: router wired to gigabit switch (can be replaced with another wireless AP) wired to the rest of your hosts, and phone and wireless interface of router connected as is.

You will need to access configuration on your router, and in my rather limited experience, telnet trumps web based interface in configurable options (cmd: telnet 192.168.137.2). Typing help or ? or /? or whatnot will often display the command syntax required for entering commands, and sometimes a little explanation of what that command actually does. Keeping google handy on the side is always beneficial in troubleshooting and setting up any kind of computer system.

Creating a routing table entry will also likely be necessary to forward traffic from your LAN to the phone.

Disclaimer: I'm no expert and have little practical experience setting up networks. Been studying this for some time now, but there are guys here and around the internet so much more experienced with this sort of thing. But in theory, I think this should work.

If you want to set your network up in some other way, just figure it out and you can start asking more specific questions.
 
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lif_andi said:
If I were you I would download and read this very detailed manual for your router:
http://www.rosewill.com/Mgnt/Uploads2/AttachmentForProduct/rnx-n150rt_user_manual_v1.0.pdf
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Yeah, I have that... it is out of date since the newest firmware is considerably different than what this is written for. It would be nice if they had updated it since the menus aren't even the same but it is a 15.00 router that is undoubtedly discontinued. I'm going to try flashing it to DD-WRT. The only problem is that there are several different versions of it as well and different opinions about which works the best...
 
So, after trying several different scenarios to get the router to work with the phone's hotspot, I finally flashed it with DD-WRT and used this guide to configure it. I figured, what the heck, it's a 15.00 router, if I brick it, so what. Works perfectly. The factory firmware simply would not work even though it had a bridge mode. The router is plugged into the GB switch and the wired computers and PS3 are plugged into the switch. So far, no connection issues and when I come back home the phone and router connect in about 10 sec. It also seems like the phone's battery life is much better- maybe because the router's antennas are better, etc..
 
Actually, there is a connection issue that you only notice if you are watching video. Exactly every 5 min, the router loses or drops internet for a couple of seconds. You don't notice it except watching a video because the video will get an error notice- either you tube or Amazon prime. Any ideas where to start looking for this problem? I did not notice this when the phone was connecting directly to the wireless adapters.
 
Connection issue solved by giving the computers and PS3 static IP's. I don't know why, but I tried it out of desperation and it worked. Been watching Amazon Prime shows in HD over the phone/router with no problem.
 
spdfreak said:
I got the phone and all my computers have wireless adapters so I can access the internet fine on any of them. I won't cancel my dsl for a week or so until I am certain that everything works well. So far, speeds are excellent- in the 10Mbps range.

I need a little help from a networking guru- I still want to set up a network using the wired stuff but I'm wondering how the dhcp stuff will work. right now, I guess the phone is handing out ip addresses? If I get a wireless ethernet bridge like a gaming or media bridge, will that need to be configured or will it get the ip addresses from the phone? I want the wired computers to be able to see each other so I can transfer movies, etc over the gigabit switch.
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Yeah, right now your wired device is handing out your IP addresses in that scheme. Bridges don't assign IP addresses.

What worries me is that I don't trust a wireless device like a phone or hotspot to have decent security, because I can't get inside them and see what's going on. For that reason, I think I'm going to be forced to double-nat, once from the phone to the router, and then the router to everything else. That way I can configure the firewall on the router and feel a bit safer. From everything I've read, double NAT isn't ideal, but it's not the demon a lot of people make it out to be. I generally don't online game, so opening ports isn't a big problem. I do need to make sure FTP works from the inside out so I can still upload web dev stuff.
 
No, actually, the phone is handing out IP addresses, not the router/bridge (dhcp is turned off) and I'm using static IP's on the computers/devices in the range the phone always assigns. Definitely more stable with static IP's. Read all the way down, it details how I had to set everything up to get it working properly.
 
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I've been using that Rosewill N150RT with DD-WRT.
It used to hangup every few days or so - possibly from overheating.

Then cracked the case open a little to give it more air and it has been running fine since. 🙂
 
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