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Hey, I found your proposed house design, built.
lol you looked in my imageshack...
That's the next block over (which sold for nearly 300k more)... we really like the double ridge up top so we told the architect to do that too. Most of the designs in our area are similar otherwise, as far as the portico, etc. The biggest question for our property is the right side and how it incorporates the 2nd floor. I believe we lose interior sq-footage if we set it back (cut up by the roof). Here's an example of one similar to the drawing, at least our right side.http://img258.imageshack.us/i/image227z.jpg/
Tough to tell how it will really turn out because the proposal is only in 2D right now... in 3D like the new link there I think it looks ok but the portico overlaps it whereas in ours, it doesn't.
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btw, check this out, see if this one moves you...
http://img251.imageshack.us/i/sketchgt.jpg/
fixes:
double door
split right side up & staggered it downward
larger windows on right (the 3-casement window is actually existing). Tried to put in some symmetry.
http://img251.imageshack.us/i/sketchgt.jpg/
fixes:
double door
split right side up & staggered it downward
larger windows on right (the 3-casement window is actually existing). Tried to put in some symmetry.
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that's the width of the closet in the bedroom (left window), which is set back very slightly from the bedroom. I don't know why but it may have to do with the raised ridge. The 2nd window area is a bathroom so that's why that part is separated.
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I prefer your second rough sketch.
The first design had some issues:
The right side rocket ship needs to be broken up with a roof line at the first floor roof level.
I don't like the round window/vent.
Why is the peak of the roof line stepped down from the right to the left side?
Does the current zoning prohibit you from having an overhang for a porch to the left of the front door?
I'd prefer to see a little more balance in the size of the windows on the first floor. The windows on the left are large with no shutters and the windows on the right appear very small with shutters.
We have double doors at the front of our house, and they are more difficult to hang, and have been a source of aggravation if someone opens both when we want to the get the usually unused door to close and lock.
The first design had some issues:
The right side rocket ship needs to be broken up with a roof line at the first floor roof level.
I don't like the round window/vent.
Why is the peak of the roof line stepped down from the right to the left side?
Does the current zoning prohibit you from having an overhang for a porch to the left of the front door?
I'd prefer to see a little more balance in the size of the windows on the first floor. The windows on the left are large with no shutters and the windows on the right appear very small with shutters.
We have double doors at the front of our house, and they are more difficult to hang, and have been a source of aggravation if someone opens both when we want to the get the usually unused door to close and lock.
Usually
I am typically not a fan of that much siding. I think breaking it up with some brick or stone would add a lot to the front. I'm sure ti would cost more but the 'sameness' of the siding is boring. If you're not into that a nice retaining wall or some other landscaping would also work
You should add shutters to the windows on the right
IIRC double doors are seen as more 'upscale' and tend to do well on investment returns
Also - the two middle second story windows look a bit awkward. Judging from your sketch you have 5 different sized windows. Is it within the floorplan scope to make them match the small windows on the 1st floor?
Who drew up the new plans? For such a major construction project I think I'd consult with an architect or two. They should be able to help you in terms of window size and placement as well as the best "lines" within the confines of zoning and other constraints.
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Installing and air leakage. French doors to a deck are a little better but front double door is something I would never do.
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For the siding, we're doing cedar impression in the front with the rest as regular siding (dutch lap?). Seen many examples and it looks fine.
We've decided to stick with a single door with the side windows - lots of these in the neighborhood and it's big enough.
Think we're going with shutters on all 2nd floor windows but none on the 1st floor... we can't do them on the far left casements so it would look bad to only do right of the 1st floor but not left.
Those 1st floor small windows are casements and we've decided to go with double-hungs on the 2nd floor (they're more practical too). Again plenty of houses here do it and it looked fine. We may just keep those 2 the size that they are.
a certified architect - I'm only good at copying (see sketch).
We've put in a few questions and changes, so there may be a round 2.The rocket ship shall be gone, we asked to cut it up with a soffit - just depends on how much interior sq-footage we'll lose (if any) that way.
The roofline is separated because what's over the left side doesn't go as far back as the middle/right of the house in the back, so they're 2 different "boxes" if you will... and I suppose they have set heights. At least it won't be noticeable from ground-level.
Zoning won't allow us to build anything new all the way to the edge of the home. Anything new has to be set in 12ft from property line on the left side (house edge is at 10ft currently) and 8ft from the right.
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The before pic really helps. You are gaining some serious square footage.
I like the design, honestly. Breaking up the rocket ship is a good idea, and it seems you've already updated on that. Otherwise, looks good. I don't know, maybe a bay window on the bottom left where the flat panes are now?
Also, what's the cost difference between this and a complete teardown/rebuild? I'd imagine you're redoing the whole exterior, plus redoing the entire first floor interior layout (or just about)? If you don't like the footprint, you could just start over.
Then again, depending on where you are, the permit game might be totally different.
EDIT: Nevermind, I see the frontage requirements. You'd have to lose space with a teardown.
I like the design, honestly. Breaking up the rocket ship is a good idea, and it seems you've already updated on that. Otherwise, looks good. I don't know, maybe a bay window on the bottom left where the flat panes are now?
Also, what's the cost difference between this and a complete teardown/rebuild? I'd imagine you're redoing the whole exterior, plus redoing the entire first floor interior layout (or just about)? If you don't like the footprint, you could just start over.
Then again, depending on where you are, the permit game might be totally different.
EDIT: Nevermind, I see the frontage requirements. You'd have to lose space with a teardown.
Problem I see with your new sketch is on the right side gable. You assume that pitch can be taken forward to break up the rocket ship. If you are trying to use the existing gable pitch like in the 1st architect drawing, I think the overhang will be way too low. If that whole area is being rebuilt, then no worries.
I'm surprised no one has noticed. Who's the chick in the red dress?
I'm surprised no one has noticed. Who's the chick in the red dress?
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My cousin is also an architect and she thinks it could work with a soffit, both levels hanging out the same distance. We'll have to see. Waiting to hear back from our guy. Damn these guys like to take their sweet-ass time... nearly 2.5 weeks to get these in the first place.
Red dress? Who what where?
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So is expecting an educated opinion based on nothing but a 2-dimensional, one-sided picture of something that doesn't exist yet.
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getting plenty of helpful opinions anyway - only thing left is what looks right in front, but thanks for playing.
kind of tough since we can only dormer at this point. Besides, I think putting a tudor in the middle of split, ranch, and colonial country would signify that we're trying a tad too hard. We've been looking for a suitable colonial for half a year... couldn't find it so now we're just making one.
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http://img411.imageshack.us/i/dsc03031f.jpg/?a=j&ci=-1&rt=5
oh nevermind, it is somehow a related image, not one in your album.
I guess it's just hard to tell the layout based on a front elevation.
oh nevermind, it is somehow a related image, not one in your album.
I guess it's just hard to tell the layout based on a front elevation.
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UPDATE:
well permits and whatever else took forever so they finally started in March. And 3 months later with additional updates to the 1st floor and basement, we're done. Headache-free contractor, I might add. Like the way the right side came out:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/28242110150331211622193.jpg/
well permits and whatever else took forever so they finally started in March. And 3 months later with additional updates to the 1st floor and basement, we're done. Headache-free contractor, I might add. Like the way the right side came out:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/28242110150331211622193.jpg/
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