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Originally posted by: DrPizza
You providing the service to him to fix his computer, and making a profit from him (when he's using drug money to pay you) is no different from McDonalds taking his money when he orders food, or the grocery store, or any other services he pays for.
Exactly. Just don't copy the HD... 😉
 
So let me get this right. When he wanted to talk to you, rather than knocking on your door, he just stood outside and started screaming your name? How many people you know do sh!t like that?
 
Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
So let me get this right. When he wanted to talk to you, rather than knocking on your door, he just stood outside and started screaming your name? How many people you know do sh!t like that?

I had my music blaring and the door to my room open. The fence is about 15 or 20 feet away and he won't come inside the fence.
 
Arrange it so when he turns on his system an electrical current goes straight to the Keyboard so you can "Shock the Monkey"
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Arrange it so when he turns on his system an electrical current goes straight to the Keyboard so you can "Shock the Monkey"

lol figures you'd come up with something like that, Old Man. 🙂 He never came back today. And he lives two houses away. 😕 :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: aircooled
Do it for meth

I fvck myself up on alcohol too much to even consider doing meth. Meth has a 3% success rate for addicts. No way in hell.

Thats the most dumbass statistic I've ever heard.

A friend of mine is a paramedic. ~3% of those who become addicted to it ever truely kick the habbit instead of ODing.

Riiiiight..... Your source of information is....Ummm........most likely WRONG.

Don't attack his credibility, albeit word of mouth, when you yourself have provided none.

EDIT:

To back up FFM, Fact sheet on meth. Read the last paragraph where it states a sub 7% recovery rate. Foot, meet mouth.
 
Originally posted by: gistech1978
Originally posted by: azazyel
No idea. I probably would do it and not charge him if it was something simple.

no no no no
unless you want 'the monkey' on your back.
😀

anyways, you do it for free, he expects free tech support from then on.

You just made me choke on my drink! Damn corny jokes!
 
Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: DrPizza
You providing the service to him to fix his computer, and making a profit from him (when he's using drug money to pay you) is no different from McDonalds taking his money when he orders food, or the grocery store, or any other services he pays for.
Exactly. Just don't copy the HD... 😉

charge at least the standard rate and DO COPY the HD

Lets see what kind of crap hes got on there......and also works out that if he offs you then we can tell the police that he did and we sort of have some evidence against him :shocked:😀
 
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: aircooled
Do it for meth

I fvck myself up on alcohol too much to even consider doing meth. Meth has a 3% success rate for addicts. No way in hell.

do it for a crack whore. I am sure the guy can find a few running around.
 
Originally posted by: BigPoppa
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: aircooled
Do it for meth

I fvck myself up on alcohol too much to even consider doing meth. Meth has a 3% success rate for addicts. No way in hell.

Thats the most dumbass statistic I've ever heard.

A friend of mine is a paramedic. ~3% of those who become addicted to it ever truely kick the habbit instead of ODing.

Riiiiight..... Your source of information is....Ummm........most likely WRONG.

Don't attack his credibility, albeit word of mouth, when you yourself have provided none.

EDIT:

To back up FFM, Fact sheet on meth. Read the last paragraph where it states a sub 7% recovery rate. Foot, meet mouth.

Your absolutely right. I hope he likes the taste of shoe.
7 > 3. By a HELLUVA lot.
Aside from that, drug statistics are always going to be skewed because of the cases you never hear about. Hence my distrust in ANY drug statistic. Its either government propoganda or based on incomplete information.
Your link says 7%, he says 3%.
 
Here you go BigPoppa. Foot meet mouth indeed

"The Narconon® Program has a 76% Graduate Success Rate backed by our solid guarantee that if any graduate of our program relapses within six months of graduation we will readmit them at no cost!"

Sooo, who should I believe? The government which flat out lies, or rehab clinics which want to advertise the best success rate they can?? NOW do you see why drug statistics are always going to be bullshyte?
 
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: BigPoppa
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: aircooled
Do it for meth

I fvck myself up on alcohol too much to even consider doing meth. Meth has a 3% success rate for addicts. No way in hell.

Thats the most dumbass statistic I've ever heard.

A friend of mine is a paramedic. ~3% of those who become addicted to it ever truely kick the habbit instead of ODing.

Riiiiight..... Your source of information is....Ummm........most likely WRONG.

Don't attack his credibility, albeit word of mouth, when you yourself have provided none.

EDIT:

To back up FFM, Fact sheet on meth. Read the last paragraph where it states a sub 7% recovery rate. Foot, meet mouth.

Your absolutely right. I hope he likes the taste of shoe.
7 > 3. By a HELLUVA lot.
Aside from that, drug statistics are always going to be skewed because of the cases you never hear about. Hence my distrust in ANY drug statistic. Its either government propoganda or based on incomplete information.
Your link says 7%, he says 3%.

1. The difference between 7 and 3 percent recovery rates is negligible. There is no exact number. The fact sheet says sub 7%.
2. Cases you never hear about aren't truly factored in, but law of averages with a data set as large as meth user recovery will overcome any +- swing of the number.
3. More sites: 6%, 6%, 6%, 4%. The point of it is that the recovery rate is rediculously low.

I'm not telling anyone not to dabble in drugs. Hell, I drink alcohol like a man with 2 livers (<3 college) and I used to smoke marijuana occasionally (no longer). Do anything you want as long as it doesn't harm me. But don't sit there and tell me that the above recovery rates for meth are wrong because they're all government propaganda. Newsflash: there are people in this world with compassion for others. I wouldn't be persuing a Pharm.D if I didn't care about the welfare of others.
 
BigPoppa.....
How about a 40% recovery rate

"The standard counseling of Alcoholics Anonymous will not work on meth addicts, he said. Treatment has to begin with behavioral counseling, which data show results in 40 percent of addicts successfully recovering from addiction with complete treatment. "

Need I keep going. The stats are skewed!! Thats my point. And single digit numbers are simply unbelievable. Now, I WILL concur those could be accurate statistics for meth users who do not seek professional help. Sure, maybe. That would make it far more believable.

And I feel ya man. I used to do speedballs like a man with 2 noses and 3 hearts. College was a good, if expensive and unproductive, time of my life. 😀
 
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Here you go BigPoppa. Foot meet mouth indeed

"The Narconon® Program has a 76% Graduate Success Rate backed by our solid guarantee that if any graduate of our program relapses within six months of graduation we will readmit them at no cost!"

Sooo, who should I believe? The government which flat out lies, or rehab clinics which want to advertise the best success rate they can?? NOW do you see why drug statistics are always going to be bullshyte?

How can you bitch about government propaganda in one post and then post propaganda from a drug recovery clinic in the next? Of course the drug rehab clinic wants to advertise the best success rate they can. They're a business. If you believe that the rehab clinic doesn't manipulate its recovery rates with convoluted definitions and selective data, i've got a sandbox in Florida to sell you.

Also note, none of the data i've linked has been published by a governmental body.
 
Originally posted by: BigPoppa
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Here you go BigPoppa. Foot meet mouth indeed

"The Narconon® Program has a 76% Graduate Success Rate backed by our solid guarantee that if any graduate of our program relapses within six months of graduation we will readmit them at no cost!"

Sooo, who should I believe? The government which flat out lies, or rehab clinics which want to advertise the best success rate they can?? NOW do you see why drug statistics are always going to be bullshyte?

How can you bitch about government propaganda in one post and then post propaganda from a drug recovery clinic in the next? Of course the drug rehab clinic wants to advertise the best success rate they can. They're a business. If you believe that the rehab clinic doesn't manipulate its recovery rates with convoluted definitions and selective data, i've got a sandbox in Florida to sell you.

Also note, none of the data i've linked has been published by a governmental body.

I link to it (I thought it was obvious) to show you can find the statistics for meth recovery to vary between FFM's 3% and that clinics 76%. Other sites list 7%. Some show 40%. These figures are all over the board. I mean Christ, is it 3% or 76%?? Thats not a 1 or 2% error there. Thats ALL OVER the board. SO who should I believe? FFM's paramedic friend that says 3%, some website that says 40% or a rehab clinics 76%??
I linked to it to show that drug information, as a whole, is usually horribly inaccurate.
 
Originally posted by: Shockwave
BigPoppa.....
How about a 40% recovery rate

"The standard counseling of Alcoholics Anonymous will not work on meth addicts, he said. Treatment has to begin with behavioral counseling, which data show results in 40 percent of addicts successfully recovering from addiction with complete treatment. "

Need I keep going. The stats are skewed!! Thats my point. And single digit numbers are simply unbelievable. Now, I WILL concur those could be accurate statistics for meth users who do not seek professional help. Sure, maybe. That would make it far more believable.

And I feel ya man. I used to do speedballs like a man with 2 noses and 3 hearts. College was a good, if expensive and unproductive, time of my life. 😀

I can accept those statistics. It appears they're doing things differently than other rehab clinics. Their data set may be too small, or the majority of rehab clinics are doing things the wrong way.
 
Originally posted by: BigPoppa
Originally posted by: Shockwave
BigPoppa.....
How about a 40% recovery rate

"The standard counseling of Alcoholics Anonymous will not work on meth addicts, he said. Treatment has to begin with behavioral counseling, which data show results in 40 percent of addicts successfully recovering from addiction with complete treatment. "

Need I keep going. The stats are skewed!! Thats my point. And single digit numbers are simply unbelievable. Now, I WILL concur those could be accurate statistics for meth users who do not seek professional help. Sure, maybe. That would make it far more believable.

And I feel ya man. I used to do speedballs like a man with 2 noses and 3 hearts. College was a good, if expensive and unproductive, time of my life. 😀

I can accept those statistics. It appears they're doing things differently than other rehab clinics. Their data set may be too small, or the majority of rehab clinics are doing things the wrong way.

I can accept the recovery rate is between 40-60% myself. But 3% is just a retarded number to even say, let alone believe. 76% seems a bit high for first time participants to the program. Maybe second or third readmittance yes.
 
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