holy poop. someone i kinda know got busted for child porn..UPDATE article posted

[dave_the_nerd]

India, some other parts of the middle east etc..... Countries that don't have good child protection laws.

What did Indian children ever do to you, man?

 

[imagoon]

India, some other parts of the middle east etc..... Countries that don't have good child protection laws.

Most of Europe, Asia, Africa, South America. Pretty much anywhere not the US, Canada and a couple of the western European nations.

 

[shortylickens]

He's not evil, he's sick.

Dude needs a doctor. The hangman doesnt solve the problem, just makes it easier for people to ignore it.

 

[SunnyD]

A guy I grew up with/went to school with got busted for child porn several years back. It didn't really shock me, but he didn't seem like the kind of kid you'd grow up into a creep either.

So many people get busted for it these days just for having it, it's all too common and half the porn you find online you never know if it's legal or not. So much borderline stuff. A lot of them will get slapped with the producing/distributing tag too just because they run crap like bittorrent. That's dumb on their part, but hey dumb is dumb.

But then you get the creepers that are into making it. Especially the ones that use their own kids. Those guys and gals should just be summarily executed, no trial, no nothing. Nobody should be exploiting kids like that.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I have dealt with a number of child porn cases as both a prosecutor and defense attorney. In general child porn defendants tend to be highly intelligent and often very computer-savvy. Actually when I was stationed at Tinker AFB in Oklahoma, the base webmaster, a senior civilian employee, was busted for distributing child porn using his government computer.

There really isn't a "type" of person who is involved with child porn in any way that would be discernible to anyone but themselves. In most cases they were molested as kids and effectively had their hard wiring in sexual matters changed by that experience. There are also people who, for whatever reason, develop an interest in this as an outgrowth of a general interest in pornography, because it is intrinsically more "extreme" than other kinds of porn.

I have unfortunately had to see some very very graphic images of child pornography involving adult/toddler sexual acts as part of doing my job, and it's something that really sticks with you - it's haunting to have those images rattling around in your head.

 

[Dari]

Kill 'em all, I say. Can't fix behavior like that and they are no good. But that hasn't stopped some people from trying.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ts-treat-pedophiles-experts-article-1.1872193

 

[waggy]

Hopefully he wasn't setup by a neighbor that had the hots for his wife and hacked his wifi.

doubt it. His wife is a solid 6. she is also about 35.

not to mention she is wacky as hell. a nice lady but pretty damn weird. I never had a issue with her or her husband. her daughter though was not a girl i wanted my kids to hang out with.

 

[sao123]

I always wondered if these people were hardcore taking nudes of 6yr olds and stuff like that... or just some random guy who had a large porn collection which accidently contained images of some 16-17 yr old girl.

 

[MongGrel]

Kill 'em all, I say. Can't fix behavior like that and they are no good. But that hasn't stopped some people from trying.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ts-treat-pedophiles-experts-article-1.1872193

Now all we need is Dari in this thread to complete the trifecta.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=36580974&highlight=#post36580974

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I always wondered if these people were hardcore taking nudes of 6yr olds and stuff like that... or just some random guy who had a large porn collection which accidently contained images of some 16-17 yr old girl.

I don't think the latter category is often prosecuted, because it's difficult to prove the age of the subject (actually this is the very reason the FBI developed its Innocent Images database of known child porn, where they could confirm the ages of the people being depicted).

There is a dubious "science" called Tanner staging that is intended to allow an expert to estimate the age of nude people based on nipple and genital development, but it has largely been discredited and I don't know that any courts in the US would allow expert testimony based on Tanner staging anymore. Actually there was a case in which a guy was being prosecuted for child pornography based on his having a video of the porn star Lupe Fuentes (who was 19 or 20 in the video). The prosecution called an expert who opined that she was underage based on Tanner staging, and she showed up to testify for the defense that she was of age when the film was made.

 

[WelshBloke]

He's not evil, he's sick.

Dude needs a doctor. The hangman doesnt solve the problem, just makes it easier for people to ignore it.

I think you'll find that it does.


Unless we then just end up with zombie paedophiles. D:

 

[BudAshes]

He's not evil, he's sick.

Dude needs a doctor. The hangman doesnt solve the problem, just makes it easier for people to ignore it.

Being sick would be someone that looks at child porn. Making it is evil. Well not evil as in religiously evil, but evil as in you don't come back from that. You don't have a computer full of child porn do you? The reason we ignore these people is that their victims have no say. Many times their own family members tell them to shut up, then they start to act up people just say they are a problem child. Exterminate the child predators and you end the cycle.

 

[waggy]

I don't think the latter category is often prosecuted, because it's difficult to prove the age of the subject (actually this is the very reason the FBI developed its Innocent Images database of known child porn, where they could confirm the ages of the people being depicted).

There is a dubious "science" called Tanner staging that is intended to allow an expert to estimate the age of nude people based on nipple and genital development, but it has largely been discredited and I don't know that any courts in the US would allow expert testimony based on Tanner staging anymore. Actually there was a case in which a guy was being prosecuted for child pornography based on his having a video of the porn star Lupe Fuentes (who was 19 or 20 in the video). The prosecution called an expert who opined that she was underage based on Tanner staging, and she showed up to testify for the defense that she was of age when the film was made.

rolf. that had to go well once she testified. didn't someone think of asking her before? well besides the defense.

 

[mmntech]

A high school teacher of mine was busted for solicitation of a minor. They caught him in a motel room with a 12 year old girl. I had a run in once when he chewed me out for refusing to stand when Pierre Trudeau died. So it was kinda satisfying when we found out. I think I was in grade 11 or 12 at the time. He was my tech teacher in grade 10.

So yeah, tech-savvy guy. He had found the girl in a chat room. Would have been in his late 30s, early 40s at the time. Went to prison for it.

Personally I don't think these guys can ever be rehabilitated. The noose would certainly solve the problem real quick. Failing that, they need to be kept far away from public for the rest of their sad lives.

 

[imagoon]

I don't think the latter category is often prosecuted, because it's difficult to prove the age of the subject (actually this is the very reason the FBI developed its Innocent Images database of known child porn, where they could confirm the ages of the people being depicted).

There is a dubious "science" called Tanner staging that is intended to allow an expert to estimate the age of nude people based on nipple and genital development, but it has largely been discredited and I don't know that any courts in the US would allow expert testimony based on Tanner staging anymore. Actually there was a case in which a guy was being prosecuted for child pornography based on his having a video of the porn star Lupe Fuentes (who was 19 or 20 in the video). The prosecution called an expert who opined that she was underage based on Tanner staging, and she showed up to testify for the defense that she was of age when the film was made.

It has been awhile but I did a paper on this at one time and this case was something I has looked up. The issue is that the doctor that designed the "Tanner staging" more or less said that the Tanner stages were not directly related it age, other than then there was some loose relationships to age. So for example Tanner stage I on a girl would say "typically age 10 and younger." IE the stages are well defined but the ages are not and was never intended to be. It was simply a puberty scale of "1-5."

"The author of the classification system himself has argued that age classification using the Tanner stages represents invalid use."

^ Rosenbloom, AL; Tanner, JM (December 1998). "Misuse of Tanner puberty stages to estimate chronologic age.". Pediatrics 102 (6): 1494. doi:10.1542/peds.102.6.1494. PMID 9882230.

Honestly I think it would be incredibly difficult to never see what the US defines as "Child Porn" if you ever look at porn on the Internet because the rest of the world's definition is generally much looser. US defined child porn is often on magazine racks etc in large portion of the world and the Internet follows suit.

Granted this is the same country that will put away for years an 18 year old for something his 17 year old girlfriend sent him and then plop him on the sex offenders list and because it was "a minor" it is for life.

 

[Mayne]

Fuck the justice system. Lawyers making laws so they can make money. A single bullet to the brain is the only justice when it comes to this shit.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

Fuck the justice system. Lawyers making laws so they can make money. A single bullet to the brain is the only justice when it comes to this shit.

Except that it can be applied in false positive situations. So, we let YOU pull the trigger and if found out later then the trigger can get pulled on YOU. OK?

 

[Mayne]

Except that it can be applied in false positive situations. So, we let YOU pull the trigger and if found out later then the trigger can get pulled on YOU. OK?

pretty damn sure I would never be in a situation like that..go right ahead.

 

[BeeBoop]

Found it, makes you feel like the government can prosecute you for anything. When the guy gets cleared of all charges, does he get reimbursed for any of the court costs?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupe_Fuentes

In 2009, a man was arrested in Puerto Rico for the possession of child pornography discovered during an airport search. He had a DVD called "Little Lupe the Innocent"[5] in his possession and was arrested because federal agents thought that Lupe was underage. His case went to trial and a pediatrician testifying for the prosecution claimed that Lupe had to be underage because of her appearance. Lawyers for the defense, however, found Lupe's website and contacted her, and sent her a subpoena so she could testify. She showed her passport in court and proved that she was 19 years old when the movie was made, and he was cleared of all charges.[6]

 

[bearxor]

I guess we could go with adam carollas idea of Pedophisle. An island where pedos are dropped off at and can never leave.

Sure, lets just go full-on No Escape on their asses.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110678/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_86

 

[BeeBoop]

Here's her interview. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDrHfuLC4H8

 

[Mixolydian]

Someone I went to school with and lived in my neighborhood growing up was recently (this year) charged and sentenced with molesting a special needs child.

Creepy shit.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

One of my best friends from elementary school was convicted of possession when he was about 18/19. No idea whether it was a pictures-of-17-y/o-girlfriend situation or something much worse, but if he served time for it it must have been brief as I still e-stalk him and he's still active online and apparently graduated from USC last year.

 

[werepossum]

Now he has a different relationship with the federal government.

lol

So, whats his district?

lol

And now you know how he paid for it

lol

Who knew that a thread about kiddie porn would be so entertaining?

 

[waggy]

http://www.daily-chronicle.com/2014/08/01/sycamore-man-accused-of-repeated-child-sexual-assault/a58kihg/

SYCAMORE — A Sycamore man who is accused of sexually assaulting a girl younger than 13 years old over a span of four years had bond set Friday at $5 million.

richard J. Janusz, 46, of the 500 block of Nathan Lattin Lane, was charged with 15 counts of predatory criminal sexual assault and three counts of possession of child pornography.

Additional charges such as distribution of child pornography could be filed as the case continues, said Assistant State's Attorney Jessica Finley. Police believe more than one victim was abused and are asking anyone with relevant information to contact the Sycamore Police Department at 815-895-3435.

"We're continuing to investigate," said Sycamore police Chief Don Thomas. "Our detectives will be speaking to other people in the community and other family that may have had recent contact with the arrestee in order to see if we have any other offenses."

Janusz is accused of sexually assaulting a girl under 13 years old from Jan. 1, 2010, to July 31, and also having multiple images of underage children on his computer, court records show. Thomas said police are still investigating whether Janusz took pictures himself and uploaded them onto his computer or possessed the images from another source.

"There are many images," Thomas said. "We may discover more victims as we dig deeper."

Police took Janusz's computer and other electronic devices to possibly find more evidence, Thomas said.

The most serious charge, predatory criminal sexual assault, is typically punishable by between 6 and 30 years in prison. If convicted of all counts of predatory criminal sexual assault, Janusz would face between 90 and 450 years in prison.

Finely said Janusz has no prior criminal history. He is next due in court Aug.