holy man ... Yankees just came back from wayy back

[raildogg]

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That is pretty good considering they had been on a slight losing skid for a few games. You know the fans were getting pretty restless at the Stadium when they were down.

 

[Reckoner]

I can't believe they won that game. Fvcking yankees

 

[SP33Demon]

It doesn't matter because Big Unit is now a Big Headcase and his velocity has dropped from 97 to 92 in a matter of weeks. Torre also said his slider is so off that he can't throw it for a strike, and when he does, it's right over the middle of the plate.

After Matsui's unfortunate broken wrist and Sheff out, the Yanks are hurting. Rivera's getting old, and Lord knows how long his arm will hold up. Mussina was their "ace" but got rocked two nights ago.

RIP Yankees, and go Red Sox! Papsmear (Papelbon) is now leading the league in saves after tonight. Life is good 😉

 

[PhlashFoto]

NY Spankees still suck. 🙂

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
It doesn't matter because Big Unit is now a Big Headcase and his velocity has dropped from 97 to 92 in a matter of weeks. Torre also said his slider is so off that he can't throw it for a strike, and when he does, it's right over the middle of the plate.

After Matsui's unfortunate broken wrist and Sheff out, the Yanks are hurting. Rivera's getting old, and Lord knows how long his arm will hold up. Mussina was their "ace" but got rocked two nights ago.

RIP Yankees, and go Red Sox! Papsmear (Papelbon) is now leading the league in saves after tonight. Life is good 😉

Sp33d, I used to think you sometimes had a clue wtf you were talking about, but I have my doubts now. A matter of weeks? Randy hasn't thrown 97 in at least 3 years. He's been at 93-94 ever since he got to the Yankees. He has mechanical issues, because 93 is fast enough to get the job done, it's his location that's screwed up.

Mussina got "rocked"?!?!?! Seriously dude, wtf are you watching? HE GAVE UP TWO FREAKING RUNS two nights ago, and left with the game tied 2-2.

Before you go off on another Sox fantasy trip at least get some of your facts partially correct. :roll:

 

[moshquerade]

what a game. :heart:

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
It doesn't matter because Big Unit is now a Big Headcase and his velocity has dropped from 97 to 92 in a matter of weeks. Torre also said his slider is so off that he can't throw it for a strike, and when he does, it's right over the middle of the plate.

After Matsui's unfortunate broken wrist and Sheff out, the Yanks are hurting. Rivera's getting old, and Lord knows how long his arm will hold up. Mussina was their "ace" but got rocked two nights ago.

RIP Yankees, and go Red Sox! Papsmear (Papelbon) is now leading the league in saves after tonight. Life is good 😉

Sp33d, I used to think you sometimes had a clue wtf you were talking about, but I have my doubts now. A matter of weeks? Randy hasn't thrown 97 in at least 3 years. He's been at 93-94 ever since he got to the Yankees. He has mechanical issues, because 93 is fast enough to get the job done, it's his location that's screwed up.

Mussina got "rocked"?!?!?! Seriously dude, wtf are you watching? HE GAVE UP TWO FREAKING RUNS two nights ago, and left with the game tied 2-2.

Before you go off on another Sox fantasy trip at least get some of your facts partially correct. :roll:

Um, yes Randy Johnson was throwing 95+ in Spring Training.... According to one scout, he looked like a Hall of Famer in March. Noting the fastball that touched 96 in Florida and the biting slider, the scout said, "I haven't seen him better in three, four years."Text

Yes, rocked for Moose may have been overexaggerating but giving up a 2 run lead as the "ace" is nothing to write home about, he blew it.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
I can't believe they won that game. Fvcking yankees

 

[FeuerFrei]

Bastards they need to be taken out back and shot for pulling off that 2 run homer in the bottom of the ninth. I was all ready to celebrate a Ranger win.

 

[geecee]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Um, yes Randy Johnson was throwing 95+ in Spring Training.... According to one scout, he looked like a Hall of Famer in March. Noting the fastball that touched 96 in Florida and the biting slider, the scout said, "I haven't seen him better in three, four years."Text

Yes, rocked for Moose may have been overexaggerating but giving up a 2 run lead as the "ace" is nothing to write home about, he blew it.

Um, if memory serves me correctly, didn't Mussina beat Schilling a week ago in a game where Schill had a two-run lead and couldn't hold it? Unless, of course, you don't consider Schill your ace anymore?

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
It doesn't matter because Big Unit is now a Big Headcase and his velocity has dropped from 97 to 92 in a matter of weeks. Torre also said his slider is so off that he can't throw it for a strike, and when he does, it's right over the middle of the plate.

After Matsui's unfortunate broken wrist and Sheff out, the Yanks are hurting. Rivera's getting old, and Lord knows how long his arm will hold up. Mussina was their "ace" but got rocked two nights ago.

RIP Yankees, and go Red Sox! Papsmear (Papelbon) is now leading the league in saves after tonight. Life is good 😉

Sp33d, I used to think you sometimes had a clue wtf you were talking about, but I have my doubts now. A matter of weeks? Randy hasn't thrown 97 in at least 3 years. He's been at 93-94 ever since he got to the Yankees. He has mechanical issues, because 93 is fast enough to get the job done, it's his location that's screwed up.

Mussina got "rocked"?!?!?! Seriously dude, wtf are you watching? HE GAVE UP TWO FREAKING RUNS two nights ago, and left with the game tied 2-2.

Before you go off on another Sox fantasy trip at least get some of your facts partially correct. :roll:

Um, yes Randy Johnson was throwing 95+ in Spring Training.... According to one scout, he looked like a Hall of Famer in March. Noting the fastball that touched 96 in Florida and the biting slider, the scout said, "I haven't seen him better in three, four years."Text

Spring training?! ha. I've seen most of his starts with the Yankees. He hasn't had a 96 mph fastball in the regular season since he's been with the Yankees.

Yes, rocked for Moose may have been overexaggerating but giving up a 2 run lead as the "ace" is nothing to write home about, he blew it.

That is the dumbest comment you have ever made.

 

[pmoa]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
It doesn't matter because Big Unit is now a Big Headcase and his velocity has dropped from 97 to 92 in a matter of weeks. Torre also said his slider is so off that he can't throw it for a strike, and when he does, it's right over the middle of the plate.

After Matsui's unfortunate broken wrist and Sheff out, the Yanks are hurting. Rivera's getting old, and Lord knows how long his arm will hold up. Mussina was their "ace" but got rocked two nights ago.

RIP Yankees, and go Red Sox! Papsmear (Papelbon) is now leading the league in saves after tonight. Life is good 😉

Poor Matsui...I am a red sox fan and I actually respect Matsui. I mean, who apologizes for getting hurt??? But Randy is still Randy, he is in a slump and just like schilling, is in a funk. Their mechanics are poor and cant locate...They will get it back and I would still take either of them. Who cares about the yanks vs. red sox now....all the uneducated baseball fans play it up too much. Red sox won in 2004 and that should kill all 1918 chants and the yankees suck chant...stinks..cause they actually dont suck and shows how stupid some red sox fans are. I just like to have educated discussions about baseball and the best rivalry in sports...oh and by the way...yankees suck 😉 haha

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
Bastards they need to be taken out back and shot for pulling off that 2 run homer in the bottom of the ninth. I was all ready to celebrate a Ranger win.

I wouldn't worry too much, Texas pitchers racked up 3 blown saves last night. DJ and Posada ain't gonna do that every night, collectively.

The Yanks are screwed. Even the Sandman Rivera gave up another run and "improved" (lol) his "sparkling" ERA to 3.18, and his arm could fail at any time like Big Unit's because of age. Sheff, Matsui out. Bullpen stinks. Their only hope is to resign the Rocket.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
It doesn't matter because Big Unit is now a Big Headcase and his velocity has dropped from 97 to 92 in a matter of weeks. Torre also said his slider is so off that he can't throw it for a strike, and when he does, it's right over the middle of the plate.

After Matsui's unfortunate broken wrist and Sheff out, the Yanks are hurting. Rivera's getting old, and Lord knows how long his arm will hold up. Mussina was their "ace" but got rocked two nights ago.

RIP Yankees, and go Red Sox! Papsmear (Papelbon) is now leading the league in saves after tonight. Life is good 😉

Sp33d, I used to think you sometimes had a clue wtf you were talking about, but I have my doubts now. A matter of weeks? Randy hasn't thrown 97 in at least 3 years. He's been at 93-94 ever since he got to the Yankees. He has mechanical issues, because 93 is fast enough to get the job done, it's his location that's screwed up.

Mussina got "rocked"?!?!?! Seriously dude, wtf are you watching? HE GAVE UP TWO FREAKING RUNS two nights ago, and left with the game tied 2-2.

Before you go off on another Sox fantasy trip at least get some of your facts partially correct. :roll:

Um, yes Randy Johnson was throwing 95+ in Spring Training.... According to one scout, he looked like a Hall of Famer in March. Noting the fastball that touched 96 in Florida and the biting slider, the scout said, "I haven't seen him better in three, four years."Text

Spring training?! ha. I've seen most of his starts with the Yankees. He hasn't had a 96 mph fastball in the regular season since he's been with the Yankees.

Yes, rocked for Moose may have been overexaggerating but giving up a 2 run lead as the "ace" is nothing to write home about, he blew it.

That is the dumbest comment you have ever made.

You calling me dumb is pretty funny after you were just owned. I was just talking with a Yankee fan friend of mine who said Unit had hit 97 on the radar in March, and now he's lucky to be touching 92 while overthrowing. So everyone is just lying, right? Unit is old and washed up, at 16 million a year@4.55 ERA, the NYY are better off starting a triple A prospect.

Moose is way too inconsistent, I wouldn't rely on him as a #1 on any staff. And yes, he blew the game the other night.

 

[DannyLove]

I hate the Yankees. I'm a hater.

GO DODGERS!

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: pmoa

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
It doesn't matter because Big Unit is now a Big Headcase and his velocity has dropped from 97 to 92 in a matter of weeks. Torre also said his slider is so off that he can't throw it for a strike, and when he does, it's right over the middle of the plate.

After Matsui's unfortunate broken wrist and Sheff out, the Yanks are hurting. Rivera's getting old, and Lord knows how long his arm will hold up. Mussina was their "ace" but got rocked two nights ago.

RIP Yankees, and go Red Sox! Papsmear (Papelbon) is now leading the league in saves after tonight. Life is good 😉

Poor Matsui...I am a red sox fan and I actually respect Matsui. I mean, who apologizes for getting hurt??? But Randy is still Randy, he is in a slump and just like schilling, is in a funk. Their mechanics are poor and cant locate...They will get it back and I would still take either of them. Who cares about the yanks vs. red sox now....all the uneducated baseball fans play it up too much. Red sox won in 2004 and that should kill all 1918 chants and the yankees suck chant...stinks..cause they actually dont suck and shows how stupid some red sox fans are. I just like to have educated discussions about baseball and the best rivalry in sports...oh and by the way...yankees suck 😉 haha

Sup Perry, go to the game last night @the Yard?

Yeah Randy is still a great #2 when he's hitting his spots, but this year it seems like it's definitely the start of this decline. The fact that his slider has no bite to it (or is right over the plate according to Torre), his velocity is way down, he is missing his spots big time, and he's overthrowing (vs Boston he hit the backstop twice) show that it's the start of his end.

Schilling got rocked last night but at least he still has his velocity (moreso than Unit) and splitter (which you don't need to throw 95+mph to be effective). He admitted he was overthrowing too much and that affected his control with 2 strikes on batters last night. 7 of his 9 hits allowed were with 2 strikes.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
It doesn't matter because Big Unit is now a Big Headcase and his velocity has dropped from 97 to 92 in a matter of weeks. Torre also said his slider is so off that he can't throw it for a strike, and when he does, it's right over the middle of the plate.

After Matsui's unfortunate broken wrist and Sheff out, the Yanks are hurting. Rivera's getting old, and Lord knows how long his arm will hold up. Mussina was their "ace" but got rocked two nights ago.

RIP Yankees, and go Red Sox! Papsmear (Papelbon) is now leading the league in saves after tonight. Life is good 😉

Sp33d, I used to think you sometimes had a clue wtf you were talking about, but I have my doubts now. A matter of weeks? Randy hasn't thrown 97 in at least 3 years. He's been at 93-94 ever since he got to the Yankees. He has mechanical issues, because 93 is fast enough to get the job done, it's his location that's screwed up.

Mussina got "rocked"?!?!?! Seriously dude, wtf are you watching? HE GAVE UP TWO FREAKING RUNS two nights ago, and left with the game tied 2-2.

Before you go off on another Sox fantasy trip at least get some of your facts partially correct. :roll:

Um, yes Randy Johnson was throwing 95+ in Spring Training.... According to one scout, he looked like a Hall of Famer in March. Noting the fastball that touched 96 in Florida and the biting slider, the scout said, "I haven't seen him better in three, four years."Text

Spring training?! ha. I've seen most of his starts with the Yankees. He hasn't had a 96 mph fastball in the regular season since he's been with the Yankees.

Yes, rocked for Moose may have been overexaggerating but giving up a 2 run lead as the "ace" is nothing to write home about, he blew it.

That is the dumbest comment you have ever made.

You calling me dumb is pretty funny after you were just owned. I was just talking with a Yankee fan friend of mine who said Unit had hit 97 on the radar in March, and now he's lucky to be touching 92 while overthrowing. So everyone is just lying, right? Unit is old and washed up, at 16 million a year@4.55 ERA, the NYY are better off starting a triple A prospect.

Moose is way too inconsistent, I wouldn't rely on him as a #1 on any staff. And yes, he blew the game the other night.

Your definition of ownage is hilarious, kinda like your definition of Moose getting rocked. I finally realized that you don't actually have much baseball knowledge at all, you just spout off the latest Sox fantasy going around Beanland. What a pitcher does in spring training means absolutely nothing. NOTHING. He hasn't done it in the regular season since coming over here. It's meaningless. Moose has not been inconsistant at all this season. And giving up 2 runs is not blowing a game in anyshape or form, especially when the game was tied when he left. Seriously dude, get a clue before you start spewing again.

Let's compare for a second:

Schilling has pitched an inning less than Mussina to this point.
So they've pitched roughly the same amount of innings, their walks and SO's are essentially the same, Schilling has an ERA of 4.17 while Moose is 2.56. Now if I was a blind fanboy, like you, and if I used your logic I would say that Schilling is done, he's over, he's too old and Moose PWNS him. But I'm not, I'm actually open to the fact that Schilling over his career is a way better pitcher than Mussina. So chances are that he'll get his act together again. You OTOH think that some rookie kid who's bubble hasn't yet burst as a closer is better than Rivera, one of the best relief pitchers of all time who's going through a rough stretch. That's nothing short of idiotic.

 

[Aquila76]

I love the Red Sox as much as the next Masshole, but the Yankees comeback was unbelievable. I thought we were gonna be two up in the division, but nope.

 

[dnuggett]

I heard the game when it was 9-0 Rangers. Switched it over to Russ Martin and now I read in this thread that the Yanks won. Furthers my theory that the Rangers are not "good enough" this year.

 

[pmoa]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: pmoa

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
It doesn't matter because Big Unit is now a Big Headcase and his velocity has dropped from 97 to 92 in a matter of weeks. Torre also said his slider is so off that he can't throw it for a strike, and when he does, it's right over the middle of the plate.

After Matsui's unfortunate broken wrist and Sheff out, the Yanks are hurting. Rivera's getting old, and Lord knows how long his arm will hold up. Mussina was their "ace" but got rocked two nights ago.

RIP Yankees, and go Red Sox! Papsmear (Papelbon) is now leading the league in saves after tonight. Life is good 😉

Poor Matsui...I am a red sox fan and I actually respect Matsui. I mean, who apologizes for getting hurt??? But Randy is still Randy, he is in a slump and just like schilling, is in a funk. Their mechanics are poor and cant locate...They will get it back and I would still take either of them. Who cares about the yanks vs. red sox now....all the uneducated baseball fans play it up too much. Red sox won in 2004 and that should kill all 1918 chants and the yankees suck chant...stinks..cause they actually dont suck and shows how stupid some red sox fans are. I just like to have educated discussions about baseball and the best rivalry in sports...oh and by the way...yankees suck 😉 haha

Sup Perry, go to the game last night @the Yard?

Yeah Randy is still a great #2 when he's hitting his spots, but this year it seems like it's definitely the start of this decline. The fact that his slider has no bite to it (or is right over the plate according to Torre), his velocity is way down, he is missing his spots big time, and he's overthrowing (vs Boston he hit the backstop twice) show that it's the start of his end.

Schilling got rocked last night but at least he still has his velocity (moreso than Unit) and splitter (which you don't need to throw 95+mph to be effective). He admitted he was overthrowing too much and that affected his control with 2 strikes on batters last night. 7 of his 9 hits allowed were with 2 strikes.

Sup Rob, Yeah I went to the game last night and going again tonight. Those woeful O's are just horrible. We sat section 46 Row CCC right by the Sox dugout! Nothing like looking right into the dugout.

Schilling definitely looked like he was overthrowing and his control was off. When those HR's were hit, he was 0-2 with the first two pitches being strikes. But I knew our bullpen was better than theirs so I wasn't worried. Once we got to Papelbon, we all knew it was over.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Your definition of ownage is hilarious, kinda like your definition of Moose getting rocked. I finally realized that you don't actually have much baseball knowledge at all, you just spout off the latest Sox fantasy going around Beanland. What a pitcher does in spring training means absolutely nothing. NOTHING. He hasn't done it in the regular season since coming over here. It's meaningless. Moose has not been inconsistant at all this season. And giving up 2 runs is not blowing a game in anyshape or form, especially when the game was tied when he left. Seriously dude, get a clue before you start spewing again.

Let's compare for a second:

Schilling has pitched an inning less than Mussina to this point.
So they've pitched roughly the same amount of innings, their walks and SO's are essentially the same, Schilling has an ERA of 4.17 while Moose is 2.56. Now if I was a blind fanboy, like you, and if I used your logic I would say that Schilling is done, he's over, he's too old and Mosse PWNS him. But I'm not, I'm actually open to the fact that Schilling over his career is a way better pitcher than Mussina. So chances are that he'll get his act together again. You OTOH think that some rookie kid who's bubble hasn't yet burst as a closer is better than Rivera, one of the best relief pitchers of all time who's going through a rough stretch. That's nothing short of idiotic.

Yes, you were owned. Let's recap, you said: Randy hasn't thrown 97 in at least 3 years. He's been at 93-94 ever since he got to the Yankees. He has mechanical issues, because 93 is fast enough to get the job done, it's his location that's screwed up.

I proceeded to link proof that a scout said he was throwing 96 in March. And I KNOW Unit was throwing 97 versus the Bosox last fall. I watched the game where he dominated them in the last series. To say he hasn't thrown 97 in 3 years is preposterous, and it makes me even wonder if you've watched baseball in the past 3 years. In fact, in 2004 (2 years ago) Randy posted his lowest. WHIP. ever in his career, finished 1st in strikeouts, and finished 2nd in K/9 with 10.62. Like hell he wasn't throwing 97mph and up, give me some of that crack you're smoking.

Well whoopdey doo, Moose's stats are slightly better than Schill's. Moose will eventually fall back to form, while Schill continues gets it done with his splitter. And to say Rivera is even remotely near Papelbon's league since last fall is absurd. He's given up 1 run since last September. ONE. Rivera has a blown save already (converted 7/8) and Paps is 14/14 with a 0.42ERA, less than half of Rivera's WHIP, and almost double Rivera's K/9 at 8.02 vs 4.24. Out with the old, and in with the new. Boston now has the most dominating closer in baseball, period.

 

[JDrake]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
what a game. :heart:

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: raildogg
link

That is pretty good considering they had been on a slight losing skid for a few games. You know the fans were getting pretty restless at the Stadium when they were down.

so what was the score?

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Your definition of ownage is hilarious, kinda like your definition of Moose getting rocked. I finally realized that you don't actually have much baseball knowledge at all, you just spout off the latest Sox fantasy going around Beanland. What a pitcher does in spring training means absolutely nothing. NOTHING. He hasn't done it in the regular season since coming over here. It's meaningless. Moose has not been inconsistant at all this season. And giving up 2 runs is not blowing a game in anyshape or form, especially when the game was tied when he left. Seriously dude, get a clue before you start spewing again.

Let's compare for a second:

Schilling has pitched an inning less than Mussina to this point.
So they've pitched roughly the same amount of innings, their walks and SO's are essentially the same, Schilling has an ERA of 4.17 while Moose is 2.56. Now if I was a blind fanboy, like you, and if I used your logic I would say that Schilling is done, he's over, he's too old and Mosse PWNS him. But I'm not, I'm actually open to the fact that Schilling over his career is a way better pitcher than Mussina. So chances are that he'll get his act together again. You OTOH think that some rookie kid who's bubble hasn't yet burst as a closer is better than Rivera, one of the best relief pitchers of all time who's going through a rough stretch. That's nothing short of idiotic.

Yes, you were owned. Let's recap, you said: Randy hasn't thrown 97 in at least 3 years. He's been at 93-94 ever since he got to the Yankees. He has mechanical issues, because 93 is fast enough to get the job done, it's his location that's screwed up.

I proceeded to link proof that a scout said he was throwing 96 in March. And I KNOW Unit was throwing 97 versus the Bosox last fall. I watched the game where he dominated them in the last series. To say he hasn't thrown 97 in 3 years is preposterous, and it makes me even wonder if you've watched baseball in the past 3 years. In fact, in 2004 (2 years ago) Randy posted his lowest. WHIP. ever in his career, finished 1st in strikeouts, and finished 2nd in K/9 with 10.62. Like hell he wasn't throwing 97mph and up, give me some of that crack you're smoking.

Well whoopdey doo, Moose's stats are slightly better than Schill's. Moose will eventually fall back to form, while Schill continues gets it done with his splitter. And to say Rivera is even remotely near Papelbon's league since last fall is absurd. He's given up 1 run since last September. ONE. Rivera has a blown save already (converted 7/8) and Paps is 14/14 with a 0.42ERA, less than half of Rivera's WHIP, and almost double Rivera's K/9 at 8.02 vs 4.24. Out with the old, and in with the new. Boston now has the most dominating closer in baseball, period.

Should I even dignify this with a response?
I watch 98% of Yankee games.
I've seen most if not all of Johnson's starts witht the Yankees. Your assumption that he must've been throwing 97 because he had a great year with alot of strikeouts is ridiculous.
It's beyond hypocritical of you to assume Moose will fall back into form but not Rivera.
And if you are a real baseball fan you will know that a splitter is only real effective when a pitcher is throwing a good fastball as well.
This argument is getting ridiculous, and I'm out.
I think anyone reading this thread can see how poor your arguments are.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: dnuggett
I heard the game when it was 9-0 Rangers. Switched it over to Russ Martin and now I read in this thread that the Yanks won. Furthers my theory that the Rangers are not "good enough" this year.

When have the rangers EVER been 'good enough'?