Holy mammoth jalapeno Batman!!!!

jonnyGURU

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AFAIK, the verdict is still out on what the effects of genetically modified foods are on humans.

Despite this, this spring I bought some Texas A&M Mild Jalapeno II pepper seedlings and planted them in the garden.

The claim on the package was that the pepper would be relatively mild (low 1000 Scoville as opposed to a more typical 5000 Scoville), but still have all the flavor of a Jalapeno. What this meant for me was that I could introduce Jalapenos to my 6 year old who currently thinks of Big Red chewing gum as "spicy".

With more research, I found that the TAM Mild Jalapeno II also has the following features:

  • The fruit is extremely large (7-8 cm) and heavy (30-35 g)
  • Thick, dark green flesh, very little skin cracking or anthocyanin development (black color)
  • Plants are compact in size (40-50 cm), with dense foliage cover, preventing sunburn of the fruit
  • Fruit set is concentrated, allowing for fewer harvests
  • The plants are heat tolerant and will set fruit in temperatures above 30 C
  • Fruit matures 4-5 days before "TAM Mild Jalapeno I" and most hybrid varieties such as "Mitla"

Cool. I got more than I bargained for.

So in mid-summer, I got some good 7-8cm long mild peppers off the plant, just as advertised. But then recently... it seems mother nature got a little upset with the genetic tampering of these jalapenos.

Last night we made some tilapia and wanted to throw some diced jalapenos on top. I went back into the garden and found a 14cm long, 40cm in diameter, jalapeno pepper hanging from the plant. WTF?! The damn thing looked like a plantain! I pulled the fruit and diced it up.

All of the sudden, my eye lids are ON FIRE! I can't figure out what's going on. Normal peppers, if I rub my eyes it hurts, but never with these peppers. We sit down to eat and the peppers were so freaking hot, we thought they were habanero's. I kid you not.

So much for genetics. Although, I thought the end result pepper, although unintentional, was pretty cool. I mean... how bad ass is that? You buy a plant that's supposed to produce mild peppers and you end up with super heaters the size of bananas!!! :D


 

lxskllr

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That's awesome :^D

How was the flavor? Did it taste like regular jalapeno?
 

Platypus

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Most pepper plants produce a fluke or two that are a lot hotter than their counterparts, I've never heard of one that large though lol.

ps serranos are better tasting and only slightly hotter

I love hot chiles :)

My coworker's wife grew some naga joloka for me, I thought I was going to die from the heat but they were so tasty I couldn't stop myself :(
 

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Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
No pics?

:|

I know... pics or shens, right? I'm going to go back out there this weekend and see if I can find another one.

Originally posted by: lxskllr
That's awesome :^D

How was the flavor? Did it taste like regular jalapeno?

It did... but the flavor I was looking for by buying this particular plant in the first place was completely overshadowed by the heat. It was fun though. :D

Originally posted by: meltdown75
14cm eh. i thought jalapenos were much bigger.

No. 14cm is quite large. Even the 7-8cm that this plant is supposed to produce are a little bigger than norm. Most jalapenos in the store are about 6-7cm.

I think you might be thinking of poblano's which are HUGE, but very, very mild. Those are the peppers they always use to stuff at mexican restaurants. Jalapenos: Think jalapeno poppers at Arby's. ;)
 

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Originally posted by: Platypus
Most pepper plants produce a fluke or two that are a lot hotter than their counterparts, I've never heard of one that large though lol.

ps serranos are better tasting and only slightly hotter

I love hot chiles :)

My coworker's wife grew some naga joloka for me, I thought I was going to die from the heat but they were so tasty I couldn't stop myself :(

Agreed - they can pull out some scorchers. Also depends on how ripe you let them get.

My jalepenos have been mild this year because of a very wet/cool summer.
 

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This strain wasn't made by what most consider 'genetically modified,' it was developed with a more classic selective breeding. Link

I've got a plant of the first mild strain growing. The fruits are small and turn red. A few of the peppers will be hot, but usually I can eat them straight off the plant.
 

Engineer

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40cm diameter (as you state) or circumference? That would be over 15 inches wide! :shocked:
 

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Originally posted by: Engineer
40cm diameter (as you state) or circumference? That would be over 15 inches wide! :shocked:

He's trying to use the metric system, but he's failing. Even if it was 40cm circumference, that's not the size of a plantain.

4cm, maybe. But, how did the 0 get squeezed in there? Or did he mean 40mm?
 

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Originally posted by: Platypus
Most pepper plants produce a fluke or two that are a lot hotter than their counterparts, I've never heard of one that large though lol.

ps serranos are better tasting and only slightly hotter

I love hot chiles :)

My coworker's wife grew some naga joloka for me, I thought I was going to die from the heat but they were so tasty I couldn't stop myself :(

how'd i know you'd post here....i need to rebuild my tolerance for spicy food.
 

jonnyGURU

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: Engineer
40cm diameter (as you state) or circumference? That would be over 15 inches wide! :shocked:

He's trying to use the metric system, but he's failing. Even if it was 40cm circumference, that's not the size of a plantain.

Haha.... 40mm. Sorry.

Sorry to say, I'm actually more versed in the metric system given my years as a bike and car mechanic and now computers. I know that's not saying much after accidently typing "cm" instead of "mm". :p
 

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Originally posted by: zerocool1
Originally posted by: Platypus
Most pepper plants produce a fluke or two that are a lot hotter than their counterparts, I've never heard of one that large though lol.

ps serranos are better tasting and only slightly hotter

I love hot chiles :)

My coworker's wife grew some naga joloka for me, I thought I was going to die from the heat but they were so tasty I couldn't stop myself :(

how'd i know you'd post here....i need to rebuild my tolerance for spicy food.

:)

We should get some spicy ass curry soon, Neeraj took me somewhere once that was awesome but I can't remember now.
 

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Originally posted by: calvinbiss
Do you have this plant planted next to other pepper plants, possibly hotter versions?

No, actually. There are bell pepper plants (which aren't doing jack shit BTW. Peppers the size of kiwi) on the other side of the garden and tomatoes in the next row over from the jalapenos (they're being weird too. They're now HUGE, but are still green. Won't ripen despite obvious ripining size).
 

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Originally posted by: Gibsons
This strain wasn't made by what most consider 'genetically modified,' it was developed with a more classic selective breeding. Link

QFT

selectively bred != genetically modified

(unless you include every cultivar in the "modified" category)
 

spidey07

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pics? You promised!

And every good plant/seed is the result of breeding. Every fruit or veg you eat comes from breeding and lines that have proven they have the desired qualities.
 

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Heat varies a loot in chiles, even within the same species. A major variable is how stressed the plant is in terms of water, heat, soil acidity. The more stressed a plant is, the hotter it gets. Size, shape and, color have little to do with the heat. Oh and, 5000 Scoville units is Mother's milk around here.
 

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Our jalapeno has been producing relatively mild peppers this year, and rather small as well. The biggest one so far has been maybe 3-1/2" long and 3/4" diameter.

We also have bell peppers that aren't doing much. Maybe 1/2 dozen peppers from 2 plants, none very big, but crisp and flavorful.

We have 3 different tomato plants of different species. Our cherry tomato has finally started producing a few, (more in the ripening process) our beefsteak has finally set fruit...maybe 1/2 dozen tomatos...all still VERY green, and our large heirloom yellow tomato plant is a fucking hedge...maybe 6' wide, and was about 5' tall before the wind blew the tallest stalks over...but only a few small tomatos set so far. It's been an odd summer here for tomato plants. Some of my neighbors have had bumper crops...others are having the same kind of results I'm having this year. USUALLY, 3 plants produce enough that we're having to leave bags full of tomatos on neighbors' porches in the middle of the night.:p