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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.
Odds are the 72 Dolphins had more in common with Bonds than the 2007 Pats did.
This is a joke, right?😛

 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.
Odds are the 72 Dolphins had more in common with Bonds than the 2007 Pats did.

Why did you put an asterik next to my name? I'm no cheater🙂
 
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Dari
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.

If you think that teh video tapeing helped them at all this year you are delusional.

Every little bit helps. They are cheats.

and you are ignorant. but thats ok.

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic
Originally posted by: waggy
heh the guy is a idiot. and people wonder wh y the 72 fins have a image problem.


face facts. the pats did something NO team in the history of the nfl has. they have gone 16-0. that Far better then 14-0.

no matter how much they want to hold on to it the fins are nothing special anymore.

It's not about winning more games overall. It's about winning everything during the season, Super Bowl included. Until the Patriots win the Super Bowl, and if, they are far from that 'elite' class.

if you really think that they are NOT in the elite class you are ignorant as well.

The pats may not be the best team ever (i think the 85 bears would beat them, the pats have trouble with good defence) but they are in the top 5. no matter if they don't win the super bowl. if they do then they will be top 2 easy.

personally i don't think they are going to win it all. to many people know know that they can be beaten (each game seems to get closer and closer).

I can see you love your team, but try to be rational here. They are cheaters. Barry Bonds' cheating may not have helped the Giants win a World Series, but it doesn't matter. A cheat is a cheat. I hate cheaters. They don't deserve any respect. What is it with Mass. and phonies? First it was John Kerry, then Mitt Romney, now it's the Patriots.

1st i am not a pats fan. i am a Bears fan. then a Football fan

2nd i am rational. they are an amazing team. going 16-0 should prove that.

the pats were caught in teh 1st half of the 1st game. then they were watched closely every game after. the cheating did NOT help them this season. having a great players did.


 
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.
Odds are the 72 Dolphins had more in common with Bonds than the 2007 Pats did.
This is a joke, right?😛
So you think none of them took anything that helped their athletic performance?

 
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.
Odds are the 72 Dolphins had more in common with Bonds than the 2007 Pats did.

Why did you put an asterik next to my name? I'm no cheater🙂
No but you are a moron to conclude that people from MA are phonies. Of course we have to take into consideration you are from NY which has been made Boston's bitch over the last 4 years and you are probably a Jets fan which makes what you post even more suspect.

 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.
Odds are the 72 Dolphins had more in common with Bonds than the 2007 Pats did.
This is a joke, right?😛
So you think none of them took anything that helped their athletic performance?
Nothing that was illegal at the time. We are talking the 70's you know. They didn't have the
choices back then that you do now. Just take a look at the body building champs of that era. You had to do it the hard way back then.

 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.
Odds are the 72 Dolphins had more in common with Bonds than the 2007 Pats did.

Why did you put an asterik next to my name? I'm no cheater🙂
No but you are a moron to conclude that people from MA are phonies. Of course we have to take into consideration you are from NY which has been made Boston's bitch over the last 4 years and you are probably a Jets fan which makes what you post even more suspect.

I rather play sports than watch it. And I'm not a Jets or Giants fan. But Boston's luck the past couple of years pales in comparison to the countless championships New York teams have won over the decades. It's not even fair to compare. But, face it, the last two major presidential candidates from that state have been branded phonies. Now you have the Patriots exposed as cheats as well. Sad.
 
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.
Odds are the 72 Dolphins had more in common with Bonds than the 2007 Pats did.
This is a joke, right?😛
So you think none of them took anything that helped their athletic performance?
Nothing that was illegal at the time. We are talking the 70's you know. They didn't have the
choices back then that you do now. Just take a look at the body building champs of that era. You had to do it the hard way back then.
Yeah just ask Arnold:roll:

 
Originally posted by: Dari*
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.
Odds are the 72 Dolphins had more in common with Bonds than the 2007 Pats did.

Why did you put an asterik next to my name? I'm no cheater🙂
No but you are a moron to conclude that people from MA are phonies. Of course we have to take into consideration you are from NY which has been made Boston's bitch over the last 4 years and you are probably a Jets fan which makes what you post even more suspect.

I rather play sports than watch it. And I'm not a Jets or Giants fan. But Boston's luck the past couple of years pales in comparison to the countless championships New York teams have won over the decades. It's not even fair to compare. But, face it, the last two major presidential candidates from that state have been branded phonies. Now you have the Patriots exposed as cheats as well. Sad.
And you city is the home of the Gambino family so I'll do the same thing as you and classify all NYers as Criminals:roll:
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.
Odds are the 72 Dolphins had more in common with Bonds than the 2007 Pats did.

Why did you put an asterik next to my name? I'm no cheater🙂
No but you are a moron to conclude that people from MA are phonies. Of course we have to take into consideration you are from NY which has been made Boston's bitch over the last 4 years and you are probably a Jets fan which makes what you post even more suspect.

I rather play sports than watch it. And I'm not a Jets or Giants fan. But Boston's luck the past couple of years pales in comparison to the countless championships New York teams have won over the decades. It's not even fair to compare. But, face it, the last two major presidential candidates from that state have been branded phonies. Now you have the Patriots exposed as cheats as well. Sad.
And you city is the home of the Gambino family so I'll do the same thing as you and classify all NYers as Criminals:roll:

They aren't running for President.
 
Originally posted by: Dari*
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.
Odds are the 72 Dolphins had more in common with Bonds than the 2007 Pats did.

Why did you put an asterik next to my name? I'm no cheater🙂
No but you are a moron to conclude that people from MA are phonies. Of course we have to take into consideration you are from NY which has been made Boston's bitch over the last 4 years and you are probably a Jets fan which makes what you post even more suspect.

I rather play sports than watch it. And I'm not a Jets or Giants fan. But Boston's luck the past couple of years pales in comparison to the countless championships New York teams have won over the decades. It's not even fair to compare. But, face it, the last two major presidential candidates from that state have been branded phonies. Now you have the Patriots exposed as cheats as well. Sad.
And you city is the home of the Gambino family so I'll do the same thing as you and classify all NYers as Criminals:roll:

They aren't running for President.
And neither is Belichek. How about just STFU
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.
Odds are the 72 Dolphins had more in common with Bonds than the 2007 Pats did.
This is a joke, right?😛
So you think none of them took anything that helped their athletic performance?
Nothing that was illegal at the time. We are talking the 70's you know. They didn't have the
choices back then that you do now. Just take a look at the body building champs of that era. You had to do it the hard way back then.
Yeah just ask Arnold:roll:
LOL, that's right. He was from that era.😱

 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.
Odds are the 72 Dolphins had more in common with Bonds than the 2007 Pats did.

Why did you put an asterik next to my name? I'm no cheater🙂
No but you are a moron to conclude that people from MA are phonies. Of course we have to take into consideration you are from NY which has been made Boston's bitch over the last 4 years and you are probably a Jets fan which makes what you post even more suspect.

I rather play sports than watch it. And I'm not a Jets or Giants fan. But Boston's luck the past couple of years pales in comparison to the countless championships New York teams have won over the decades. It's not even fair to compare. But, face it, the last two major presidential candidates from that state have been branded phonies. Now you have the Patriots exposed as cheats as well. Sad.
And you city is the home of the Gambino family so I'll do the same thing as you and classify all NYers as Criminals:roll:

They aren't running for President.
And neither is Belichek. How about just STFU

Belichek the cheater? No he's not.
 
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.
Odds are the 72 Dolphins had more in common with Bonds than the 2007 Pats did.
This is a joke, right?😛
So you think none of them took anything that helped their athletic performance?
Nothing that was illegal at the time. We are talking the 70's you know. They didn't have the
choices back then that you do now. Just take a look at the body building champs of that era. You had to do it the hard way back then.
Yeah just ask Arnold:roll:
LOL, that's right. He was from that era.😱
As were the Steelers and Lyle Alzado.

Personally I don't care if an Athlete wants to do that to himself,after all he is just a paid gladiator or trained monkey (albeit highly paid) My one and only problem with it is that kids emulate those knuckleheads and fuck themselves up with that stuff.
 
Originally posted by: BUTCH1
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Hey guess what, the Pats cheated and dont deserve any record if they win out.

Yup, some videotape can get you a 16-0 season, it's that easy!!

If it didnt help, then why do it? It did help, or they wouldnt have continued to do it. They did it last year too. The fact is they cheated. It at least makes the win in which they cheated in, invalid to me.

Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Dari
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.

If you think that teh video tapeing helped them at all this year you are delusional.

As stated before, they did it last year too. And try not to insult people, doesnt help your case.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.
Odds are the 72 Dolphins had more in common with Bonds than the 2007 Pats did.

Thats funny, because a Pat was busted for using HGH this year, and suspended. So it seems, facts prove otherwise.
 
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari*
Patriots are cheats. As with Barry Bonds, there should be an asterik next to their name.
Odds are the 72 Dolphins had more in common with Bonds than the 2007 Pats did.

Thats funny, because a Pat was busted for using HGH this year, and suspended. So it seems, facts prove otherwise.

Pats homers ignore facts.

 
True.

Originally posted by: Dari

Belichek the cheater? No he's not.

Yes, he is. He ok'd the taping, which is cheating. Then he tried to claim he didnt think it was cheating, and thought it was ok. When its clearly outlined in the rules that what he did, was.
 
A huge percentage of NFL players are cheats...they use steroids and HGH. That they do so is not even debatable. You cannot get as big as they are any other way. The NFL's drug testing program is a joke....players know it's coming long before it happens. Same with baseball and the NBA.

So to say that filming some defensive signals get the Pats an asterisk is simply laughable. Plus, I guarantee the Jets had someone watching the Pats' signals during that same game....just probably not as blatantly as having a dude on the sidelines with a camera. All the teams do it, the Pats simply are the ones that got caught. Big deal. They would have killed the Jets if I was calling the plays.
 
I don't see anything wrong with what this guy is saying. Why all the hate? Once the Pats* go undefeated then they'll be in the same category as the dolphins. What's so hard to understand?
 
Originally posted by: Ackmed
True.

Originally posted by: Dari

Belichek the cheater? No he's not.

Yes, he is. He ok'd the taping, which is cheating. Then he tried to claim he didnt think it was cheating, and thought it was ok. When its clearly outlined in the rules that what he did, was.

And what's Mangina's excuse for having cameramen in both endzones of the Pats/Jets AFC Playoff game last year?

The difference is Belicheck just had the camermen removed and didn't go crying to the NFL about it.
 
What was wrong with what he said? 😕 All he's saying is that going undefeated in the regular season is not the same accomplishment as going undefeated in the regular season and winning the Super Bowl. And he's right. He had a rather unorthodox way of saying it... but there's nothing wrong with what he said. People have been saying it for weeks.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
What was wrong with what he said? 😕 All he's saying is that going undefeated in the regular season is not the same accomplishment as going undefeated in the regular season and winning the Super Bowl. And he's right. He had a rather unorthodox way of saying it... but there's nothing wrong with what he said. People have been saying it for weeks.

Exactly.

He might have said it like a complete and total jackass, but he IS right.

His arguments are:
- Undeafeated means until the end of the road.
- Don't crown them the winner until they have won.
- Don't compare teams from different eras and say one would beat the other because it's entirely speculation. Everything is different and it's like apples and oranges.
 
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