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Holder very likely to face Contempt of Congress

cybrsage

Lifer
Why do some people think they do not have to follow the law, while being in CHARGE of upholding the laws?

GOP Rep. Darrell Issa said his face-to-face meeting Tuesday with Attorney General Eric Holder failed to produce the documents requested for the congressional investigation into the Justice Department’s botched Fast and Furious gun walking operation and suggested he needs them by Wednesday morning to stop a scheduled vote to put Holder in contempt of Congress.
Issa told reporters after the roughly 20-minute meeting that Holder instead briefed them on the documents in lieu of delivering them. And he suggested he might delay the contempt vote, called for because Holder and the department have not responded to two subpoenas requesting additional information.
“The deadline will always move to the last minute,” said Issa, chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. “We're not looking to hold people responsible. We're looking for document production.”
Issa also acknowledged being “disappointed” that he and Holder could not reach a deal that would stop the contempt vote.
The failed Fast and Furious operation attempted selling thousands of guns to arms dealers along the U.S.-Mexico border to trace them to leaders of drug cartels. However, many of them showed up in crime scenes, including where U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry was killed in a shoot out.


Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings, the top Democrat on the House oversight panel, said he after the meeting he is confident that Justice officials are not attempting a cover-up by withholding documents.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...and-furious-documents-contempt/#ixzz1yHytj0Vh
 
Some more info, to show the basis for Congressional Subpoenas and Contempt of Congress:

History
In the late 1790s, contempt of Congress was considered an "implied power" of the legislature. Early Congresses issued contempt citations against numerous individuals for a variety of actions. Some early instances of contempt of Congress included citations against:
In 1821, the Supreme Court issued its decision in Anderson v. Dunn,[1] which held that Congress' power to hold someone in contempt was essential to ensure that Congress was "... not exposed to every indignity and interruption that rudeness, caprice, or even conspiracy, may mediate against it."[2] The historical interpretation that bribery of a senator or representative was considered contempt of Congress has long since been abandoned in favor of criminal statutes. In 1857, Congress enacted a law which made "contempt of Congress" a criminal offense against the United States.
[edit] Subpoenas

Congressional rules empower all its standing committees with the authority to compel witnesses to produce testimony and documents for subjects under its jurisdiction. Committee rules may provide for the full Committee to issue a subpoena, or permit subcommittees or the Chairman (acting alone or with the ranking member) to issue subpoenas.
As announced in Wilkinson v. United States,[3] the Congressional committee must meet three requirements for its subpoenas to be "legally sufficient." First, the committee investigation of the broad subject area must be authorized by its Chamber; second, the investigation must pursue "a valid legislative purpose" but does not need to involve legislation and does not need to specify the ultimate intent of Congress; and third, the specific inquiries must be pertinent to the subject matter area that has been authorized for investigation.
The Court held in Eastland v. United States Servicemen's Fund[4] that Congressional subpoenas are within the scope of the Speech and Debate clause which provides "an absolute bar to judicial interference" once it is determined that Members are acting within the "legitimate legislative sphere" with such compulsory process. Under that ruling, Courts generally do not hear motions to quash Congressional subpoenas; even when executive branch officials refuse to comply, the Courts tend to rule that such matters are "political questions" unsuitable for judicial remedy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Congress

I figured I would nip the question about the power of congress before it was asked, and because I wanted to know more about it myself. 🙂
 
Not yet he isn't, he still has time right now. It is rather bogus what he pulled today though. Showed up and said "here let me tell you about the documents you want, that should be enough." lol? Yes Mr. Holder you're here in front of Congress having documentation requested from you because they trust your word. lol
 
Not yet he isn't, he still has time right now. It is rather bogus what he pulled today though. Showed up and said "here let me tell you about the documents you want, that should be enough." lol? Yes Mr. Holder you're here in front of Congress having documentation requested from you because they trust your word. lol

no shit. fuck holder
 
But bush.......how predictable....... wow, that must have taken quite a bit of brainpower to come up with that defense. Fucking pathetic.

Didn't even read the link, did you? That's pathetic.

A variety of Presidents have claimed executive privilege, from George Washington forward, something the link you didn't read points out.

You referenced brainpower as if you had some.
 
Didn't even read the link, did you? That's pathetic.

A variety of Presidents have claimed executive privilege, from George Washington forward, something the link you didn't read points out.

You referenced brainpower as if you had some.

Awwwww I am truly sorry. Funny how the majority of citations referenced in that article were attributed to Bush. But allow me to restate: But everyone else!

That makes it OK, right?
 
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Awwwww I am truly sorry. Funny how the majority of citations referenced in that article were attributed to Bush. But allow me to restate: But everyone else!

That makes it OK, right?

Aww, you're not sorry about anything, other than being owned by your own arrogance, then doubling down on it.

The link points out that Eisenhower invoked executive privilege 44 times... which makes your claim as to the majority of citations going to Bush merely attempted ass-covering on your part. There's just more detail wrt Bush's claims of executive privilege, that's all.

The claim of executive privilege by Obama is conjecture so far, anyway.

Escape the smug & Man-up, Corn, if you're even capable of it. If you were half as smart as you seem to think you are, you'd be King of the World.
 
Aww, you're not sorry about anything, other than being owned by your own arrogance, then doubling down on it.

The link points out that Eisenhower invoked executive privilege 44 times... which makes your claim as to the majority of citations going to Bush merely attempted ass-covering on your part. There's just more detail wrt Bush's claims of executive privilege, that's all.

The claim of executive privilege by Obama is conjecture so far, anyway.

Escape the smug & Man-up, Corn, if you're even capable of it. If you were half as smart as you seem to think you are, you'd be King of the World.

Blah blah blah. Why don't you change things up for once and be honest. Does that article cite more specific examples of executive privilege invoked by Bush than all other presidents combined or not?
 
Ahh executive privledge is going to be used. Add it to the list of things Obama took from Bush's playbook.

He didn't take that from Bush's playbook, presidents have been using this power for almost 200 years in very similar circumstances. It doesn't make it less shitty, but it hardly originated with Bush.
 
Time honored GOP gameplan-endless and irrelevant "investigations" trying to repeat Bill Clinton impeachment.

What ever happened to jobs, jobs, jobs? The GOP clowns are in charge of the House, and this is the only crap they can produce?

BTW, as the OP conveniently glossed over, the executive privilege matter is a huge legal issue. Holder bent over backwards to try to reach a resolution with the GOP but nothing will stop them from their desired outcome.
 
Didn't even read the link, did you? That's pathetic.

A variety of Presidents have claimed executive privilege, from George Washington forward, something the link you didn't read points out.

You referenced brainpower as if you had some.

But we arent talking about the history of exec privilege. We arent even talking about Issa's past. And we certainly arent talking about anything from the Bush era. We're talking about Eric Holder facing contempt charges.

Typical of you to DUH! vert though.
 
Looks like the lefty defense squad is out in full force. Doesn't matter how corrupt Holder is or how many people he got killed, as long as he's black and was appointed by a D, he can do no wrong. Hell, if he was an illegal alien, the lefties would be demanding a promotion for him!
 
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