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Hold 'Em No Limit Cash game

QueBert

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I play Hold 'Em at the local Casinos, I'm not a baller so I hit the $1-2 or $3-6 no limit cash tables. Is there a semi standard "limit" to how many chips you can buy and bring to the table? I see people betting $60-100 on a fairly regular basis, if it's really "no limit" what would stop me from bringing like 10g's in chips and going all in on these hands and stealing the pots? I know this probably sounds retarded but I was thinking about it the last few times I played, in about 1 hour of place I saw 4 hands get up to about $300 total, if I had pushed all in for 10g's I'm sure every hand would have went to me. Would have been maybe $1200 in 1 hour of place. Seems like it would be a sure fire thing as even if somebody had the nutts they couldn't pull the money out to cover to the bet so they'd have to fold.
 
Haha, doing well in poker is all about learning about your opponents and knowing the odds for the decisions you make. You don't want to push around a group of people like you would when it's heads up simply because even if it works a few times, they'll eventually realize that you can't have something every time and take you down.

Overall, that style is reckless, and no idea if they allow it or not, but it won't last long.
 
Originally posted by: QueBert
I play Hold 'Em at the local Casinos, I'm not a baller so I hit the $1-2 or $3-6 no limit cash tables. Is there a semi standard "limit" to how many chips you can buy and bring to the table? I see people betting $60-100 on a fairly regular basis, if it's really "no limit" what would stop me from bringing like 10g's in chips and going all in on these hands and stealing the pots? I know this probably sounds retarded but I was thinking about it the last few times I played, in about 1 hour of place I saw 4 hands get up to about $300 total, if I had pushed all in for 10g's I'm sure every hand would have went to me. Would have been maybe $1200 in 1 hour of place. Seems like it would be a sure fire thing as even if somebody had the nutts they couldn't pull the money out to cover to the bet so they'd have to fold.
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ummm, if the table is $1-2 or $3-6 isn't that limit poker?

I dont' get it, unless that is just the blind or something? Usually that refers to the limit on the table though.

You also forget that if you go all in with $12,000 and I only have $100, I can call you with my money and would double up if I win. You don't have to match the full amount.
 
I understand how to play poker, but where I play if you have the money in your pocket to cover a bet beyond the chips you have they'll allow it, if I was able to push in a stupid high amount for a $1-2 no limit table I don't see anyone being able to call even if they wanted to because who keeps that kind of cash on them? At low blind tables people play because they don't have tons of cash. If they let me bet $10,000 I could get everyone to fold every time. That's why I'm thinking they have to have some sort of limit. Otherwise what would stop somebody from going all in with an amount nobody can cover and stealing the pot every time it got to a decent amount. Even if it's just a $300 pot 4 or 5 or those an hour would add up after one night.

 
Originally posted by: MikeyLSU
ummm, if the table is $1-2 or $3-6 isn't that limit poker?

I dont' get it, unless that is just the blind or something? Usually that refers to the limit on the table though.

You also forget that if you go all in with $12,000 and I only have $100, I can call you with my money and would double up if I win. You don't have to match the full amount.
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It's the blinds.
 
Originally posted by: QueBert
I understand how to play poker, but where I play if you have the money in your pocket to cover a bet beyond the chips you have they'll allow it, if I was able to push in a stupid high amount for a $1-2 no limit table I don't see anyone being able to call even if they wanted to because who keeps that kind of cash on them? At low blind tables people play because they don't have tons of cash. If they let me bet $10,000 I could get everyone to fold every time. That's why I'm thinking they have to have some sort of limit. Otherwise what would stop somebody from going all in with an amount nobody can cover and stealing the pot every time it got to a decent amount. Even if it's just a $300 pot 4 or 5 or those an hour would add up after one night.
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Why would everyone fold everytime? If i had $100 in chips...i could call your 10k bet...
 
Originally posted by: kstu
There is a max buy-in amount for the smaller no limit tables.
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This man speaks the truth.

Most of the Vegas lower no-limit tables have a $300 max buy-in.

Oh and someone pushing $10k all-in shouldn't be a threat if you have the cards and only a couple hundred at risk. In fact that is a stupid move and is begging to get called down.
 
Originally posted by: MikeyLSU
Originally posted by: QueBert
I play Hold 'Em at the local Casinos, I'm not a baller so I hit the $1-2 or $3-6 no limit cash tables. Is there a semi standard "limit" to how many chips you can buy and bring to the table? I see people betting $60-100 on a fairly regular basis, if it's really "no limit" what would stop me from bringing like 10g's in chips and going all in on these hands and stealing the pots? I know this probably sounds retarded but I was thinking about it the last few times I played, in about 1 hour of place I saw 4 hands get up to about $300 total, if I had pushed all in for 10g's I'm sure every hand would have went to me. Would have been maybe $1200 in 1 hour of place. Seems like it would be a sure fire thing as even if somebody had the nutts they couldn't pull the money out to cover to the bet so they'd have to fold.
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ummm, if the table is $1-2 or $3-6 isn't that limit poker?

I dont' get it, unless that is just the blind or something? Usually that refers to the limit on the table though.

You also forget that if you go all in with $12,000 and I only have $100, I can call you with my money and would double up if I win. You don't have to match the full amount.
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it's low blind, no limit technically, you can bet any or all of the chips you have. The point you bring up is good, I'm simple and stupid sometimes. Guess greed got the best of me 🙂

 
To answer your question, yes, there are buy in limits at no-limit games to prevent exactly what you are talking about in your op.

Of course, if you are good at poker and can earn your way up to $10,000, then sure, you can go all in each time and bully the hell out of everyone. But it's pretty hard to go from a $1/2 no limit game with a buyin of say...$200, to all the way up to $10K.

edit: Forgot to add, if you pushed all in with $10K and the guy with the nuts only has $50, or $500, even $1.00, they can call. Of course he wouldn't win all of your $10K, but he can still call you with all his $ even if it is not $10,000.
 
Originally posted by: Doodoo
Originally posted by: QueBert
I understand how to play poker, but where I play if you have the money in your pocket to cover a bet beyond the chips you have they'll allow it, if I was able to push in a stupid high amount for a $1-2 no limit table I don't see anyone being able to call even if they wanted to because who keeps that kind of cash on them? At low blind tables people play because they don't have tons of cash. If they let me bet $10,000 I could get everyone to fold every time. That's why I'm thinking they have to have some sort of limit. Otherwise what would stop somebody from going all in with an amount nobody can cover and stealing the pot every time it got to a decent amount. Even if it's just a $300 pot 4 or 5 or those an hour would add up after one night.
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Why would everyone fold everytime? If i had $100 in chips...i could call your 10k bet...
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You would fold enough times that you would be killed by blinds/antes. If you disagree, I don't think you know how to play poker.
 
Like others have said, the buy-in for the lower stakes games ($1-2 / $2-5) are capped. Usually it is 100 big bets (ie. $1-2 would generally have a $200 max, $2-5 would have a $500 max).

It is room dependant.

Also, the higher stakes games ($5-10 and up) are generally uncapped.
 
Originally posted by: QueBert
I understand how to play poker, but where I play if you have the money in your pocket to cover a bet beyond the chips you have they'll allow it, if I was able to push in a stupid high amount for a $1-2 no limit table I don't see anyone being able to call even if they wanted to because who keeps that kind of cash on them? At low blind tables people play because they don't have tons of cash. If they let me bet $10,000 I could get everyone to fold every time. That's why I'm thinking they have to have some sort of limit. Otherwise what would stop somebody from going all in with an amount nobody can cover and stealing the pot every time it got to a decent amount. Even if it's just a $300 pot 4 or 5 or those an hour would add up after one night.
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This is absolutely wrong. You only play the chips on the table, there is no hidden pocket money. So if I carry a deed of my house to your poker game, I can reraise the 10k bettor with my house??
 
Originally posted by: Epic Fail
Originally posted by: QueBert
I understand how to play poker, but where I play if you have the money in your pocket to cover a bet beyond the chips you have they'll allow it, if I was able to push in a stupid high amount for a $1-2 no limit table I don't see anyone being able to call even if they wanted to because who keeps that kind of cash on them? At low blind tables people play because they don't have tons of cash. If they let me bet $10,000 I could get everyone to fold every time. That's why I'm thinking they have to have some sort of limit. Otherwise what would stop somebody from going all in with an amount nobody can cover and stealing the pot every time it got to a decent amount. Even if it's just a $300 pot 4 or 5 or those an hour would add up after one night.
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This is absolutely wrong. You only play the chips on the table, there is no hidden pocket money. So if I carry a deed of my house to your poker game, I can reraise the 10k bettor with my house??
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yeah, this is a very simple and universal rule. you can't make people call with money that isnt on the table
 
Originally posted by: slayer202
Originally posted by: Epic Fail
Originally posted by: QueBert
I understand how to play poker, but where I play if you have the money in your pocket to cover a bet beyond the chips you have they'll allow it, if I was able to push in a stupid high amount for a $1-2 no limit table I don't see anyone being able to call even if they wanted to because who keeps that kind of cash on them? At low blind tables people play because they don't have tons of cash. If they let me bet $10,000 I could get everyone to fold every time. That's why I'm thinking they have to have some sort of limit. Otherwise what would stop somebody from going all in with an amount nobody can cover and stealing the pot every time it got to a decent amount. Even if it's just a $300 pot 4 or 5 or those an hour would add up after one night.
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This is absolutely wrong. You only play the chips on the table, there is no hidden pocket money. So if I carry a deed of my house to your poker game, I can reraise the 10k bettor with my house??
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yeah, this is a very simple and universal rule. you can't make people call with money that isnt on the table
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Thus the name "table stakes".


 
Originally posted by: Epic Fail
Originally posted by: QueBert
I understand how to play poker, but where I play if you have the money in your pocket to cover a bet beyond the chips you have they'll allow it, if I was able to push in a stupid high amount for a $1-2 no limit table I don't see anyone being able to call even if they wanted to because who keeps that kind of cash on them? At low blind tables people play because they don't have tons of cash. If they let me bet $10,000 I could get everyone to fold every time. That's why I'm thinking they have to have some sort of limit. Otherwise what would stop somebody from going all in with an amount nobody can cover and stealing the pot every time it got to a decent amount. Even if it's just a $300 pot 4 or 5 or those an hour would add up after one night.
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This is absolutely wrong. You only play the chips on the table, there is no hidden pocket money. So if I carry a deed of my house to your poker game, I can reraise the 10k bettor with my house??
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No see, my thinking was a bit flawed, somebody I know told me, well basically this...

you have let's say $150 in chips in your stack, I have $5,000 in chips. It's on me to bet. I see you have $150 and bet $140, IF you decide to call you will 99% raise me your last $10 and when it comes back to me I push in the other $4,810. This idiot I know somehow had me thinking at a casino if you raise, anyone still in the hand who goes all in to re raise you and is left without chips will have to fold when you re raise their re raise they'll be left chipless. Which sort of made sense to me, but they could just re-buy chips right then probably. I'm not 100% sure if you can re-buy during a hand as I've never seen anyone try to do it at a Casino. So the idea he put in my head sounded well, decent enough any ways. I would think whatever here would be universal, do casinos allow you to re-buy during a hand?

That's assuming a low blind no limit would let you buy in for a shit load (which I doubt) I know if you buy in for $100, at least where I play if you win $400 you can push in $400 on one hand, I don't think they'll let me buy in for a huge amount to start though. And it's also assuming they won't let a person re-buy during the hand, the whole "leave em wit a single $5 then when it's back on you go big" I'm guessing they could in fact re-buy, not sure if they could re-buy for $50 and go in against the $4,810. If they can re-buy and don't have to match my stack it's pointless and they would call probably 5/5 times if they called the initial $500 bet and could re-buy a low amount and do a split pot.
 
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Epic Fail
Originally posted by: QueBert
I understand how to play poker, but where I play if you have the money in your pocket to cover a bet beyond the chips you have they'll allow it, if I was able to push in a stupid high amount for a $1-2 no limit table I don't see anyone being able to call even if they wanted to because who keeps that kind of cash on them? At low blind tables people play because they don't have tons of cash. If they let me bet $10,000 I could get everyone to fold every time. That's why I'm thinking they have to have some sort of limit. Otherwise what would stop somebody from going all in with an amount nobody can cover and stealing the pot every time it got to a decent amount. Even if it's just a $300 pot 4 or 5 or those an hour would add up after one night.
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This is absolutely wrong. You only play the chips on the table, there is no hidden pocket money. So if I carry a deed of my house to your poker game, I can reraise the 10k bettor with my house??
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No see, my thinking was a bit flawed, somebody I know told me, well basically this...

you have let's say $150 in chips in your stack, I have $5,000 in chips. It's on me to bet. I see you have $150 and bet $140, IF you decide to call you will 99% raise me your last $10 and when it comes back to me I push in the other $4,810. This idiot I know somehow had me thinking at a casino if you raise, anyone still in the hand who goes all in to re raise you and is left without chips will have to fold when you re raise their re raise they'll be left chipless. Which sort of made sense to me, but they could just re-buy chips right then probably. I'm not 100% sure if you can re-buy during a hand as I've never seen anyone try to do it at a Casino. So the idea he put in my head sounded well, decent enough any ways. I would think whatever here would be universal, do casinos allow you to re-buy during a hand?

That's assuming a low blind no limit would let you buy in for a shit load (which I doubt) I know if you buy in for $100, at least where I play if you win $400 you can push in $400 on one hand, I don't think they'll let me buy in for a huge amount to start though. And it's also assuming they won't let a person re-buy during the hand, the whole "leave em wit a single $5 then when it's back on you go big" I'm guessing they could in fact re-buy, not sure if they could re-buy for $50 and go in against the $4,810. If they can re-buy and don't have to match my stack it's pointless and they would call probably 5/5 times if they called the initial $500 bet and could re-buy a low amount and do a split pot.
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EPIC FAIL
 
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Epic Fail
Originally posted by: QueBert
I understand how to play poker, but where I play if you have the money in your pocket to cover a bet beyond the chips you have they'll allow it, if I was able to push in a stupid high amount for a $1-2 no limit table I don't see anyone being able to call even if they wanted to because who keeps that kind of cash on them? At low blind tables people play because they don't have tons of cash. If they let me bet $10,000 I could get everyone to fold every time. That's why I'm thinking they have to have some sort of limit. Otherwise what would stop somebody from going all in with an amount nobody can cover and stealing the pot every time it got to a decent amount. Even if it's just a $300 pot 4 or 5 or those an hour would add up after one night.
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This is absolutely wrong. You only play the chips on the table, there is no hidden pocket money. So if I carry a deed of my house to your poker game, I can reraise the 10k bettor with my house??
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No see, my thinking was a bit flawed, somebody I know told me, well basically this...

you have let's say $150 in chips in your stack, I have $5,000 in chips. It's on me to bet. I see you have $150 and bet $140, IF you decide to call you will 99% raise me your last $10 and when it comes back to me I push in the other $4,810. This idiot I know somehow had me thinking at a casino if you raise, anyone still in the hand who goes all in to re raise you and is left without chips will have to fold when you re raise their re raise they'll be left chipless. Which sort of made sense to me, but they could just re-buy chips right then probably. I'm not 100% sure if you can re-buy during a hand as I've never seen anyone try to do it at a Casino. So the idea he put in my head sounded well, decent enough any ways. I would think whatever here would be universal, do casinos allow you to re-buy during a hand?

That's assuming a low blind no limit would let you buy in for a shit load (which I doubt) I know if you buy in for $100, at least where I play if you win $400 you can push in $400 on one hand, I don't think they'll let me buy in for a huge amount to start though. And it's also assuming they won't let a person re-buy during the hand, the whole "leave em wit a single $5 then when it's back on you go big" I'm guessing they could in fact re-buy, not sure if they could re-buy for $50 and go in against the $4,810. If they can re-buy and don't have to match my stack it's pointless and they would call probably 5/5 times if they called the initial $500 bet and could re-buy a low amount and do a split pot.
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EPIC FAIL
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qft
 
There are a couple of Casinos that I have heard in Vegas (I believe the Wynn was one of them) that allow any buy in amount. This was something i overheard at the local casino here. The max buy in here are as follows:
1-2nl $100 max buy in
3-5nl $300 max buy in
5-10nl $1000 "
 
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Epic Fail
Originally posted by: QueBert
I understand how to play poker, but where I play if you have the money in your pocket to cover a bet beyond the chips you have they'll allow it, if I was able to push in a stupid high amount for a $1-2 no limit table I don't see anyone being able to call even if they wanted to because who keeps that kind of cash on them? At low blind tables people play because they don't have tons of cash. If they let me bet $10,000 I could get everyone to fold every time. That's why I'm thinking they have to have some sort of limit. Otherwise what would stop somebody from going all in with an amount nobody can cover and stealing the pot every time it got to a decent amount. Even if it's just a $300 pot 4 or 5 or those an hour would add up after one night.
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This is absolutely wrong. You only play the chips on the table, there is no hidden pocket money. So if I carry a deed of my house to your poker game, I can reraise the 10k bettor with my house??
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No see, my thinking was a bit flawed, somebody I know told me, well basically this...

you have let's say $150 in chips in your stack, I have $5,000 in chips. It's on me to bet. I see you have $150 and bet $140, IF you decide to call you will 99% raise me your last $10 and when it comes back to me I push in the other $4,810. This idiot I know somehow had me thinking at a casino if you raise, anyone still in the hand who goes all in to re raise you and is left without chips will have to fold when you re raise their re raise they'll be left chipless. Which sort of made sense to me, but they could just re-buy chips right then probably. I'm not 100% sure if you can re-buy during a hand as I've never seen anyone try to do it at a Casino. So the idea he put in my head sounded well, decent enough any ways. I would think whatever here would be universal, do casinos allow you to re-buy during a hand?

That's assuming a low blind no limit would let you buy in for a shit load (which I doubt) I know if you buy in for $100, at least where I play if you win $400 you can push in $400 on one hand, I don't think they'll let me buy in for a huge amount to start though. And it's also assuming they won't let a person re-buy during the hand, the whole "leave em wit a single $5 then when it's back on you go big" I'm guessing they could in fact re-buy, not sure if they could re-buy for $50 and go in against the $4,810. If they can re-buy and don't have to match my stack it's pointless and they would call probably 5/5 times if they called the initial $500 bet and could re-buy a low amount and do a split pot.
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you really should not be playing no limit unless you understand this. TABLE STAKES. you can't rebuy during a hand, you can't pull money out of your pocket. the chips you start the hand with are all you have to work with. also if you bet 140, someone has 150 and goes all in, you can't reraise. in short, you have no idea what you're doing.
 
even with unlimited buyin, you still play with whats in front of you. If you raise 1 million dollars, I can just call with what I have in front of me, be that 1 dollar or 1 million.
 
Originally posted by: conehead433
Sign up for a seat in the WSOP main event for 10K. Let us know how you do.
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even if he was the best no limit tourney player in the world, I would put odds on him not making the money.

WSOP is a crap shoot.
 
Originally posted by: Yossarian
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Epic Fail
Originally posted by: QueBert
I understand how to play poker, but where I play if you have the money in your pocket to cover a bet beyond the chips you have they'll allow it, if I was able to push in a stupid high amount for a $1-2 no limit table I don't see anyone being able to call even if they wanted to because who keeps that kind of cash on them? At low blind tables people play because they don't have tons of cash. If they let me bet $10,000 I could get everyone to fold every time. That's why I'm thinking they have to have some sort of limit. Otherwise what would stop somebody from going all in with an amount nobody can cover and stealing the pot every time it got to a decent amount. Even if it's just a $300 pot 4 or 5 or those an hour would add up after one night.
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This is absolutely wrong. You only play the chips on the table, there is no hidden pocket money. So if I carry a deed of my house to your poker game, I can reraise the 10k bettor with my house??
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No see, my thinking was a bit flawed, somebody I know told me, well basically this...

you have let's say $150 in chips in your stack, I have $5,000 in chips. It's on me to bet. I see you have $150 and bet $140, IF you decide to call you will 99% raise me your last $10 and when it comes back to me I push in the other $4,810. This idiot I know somehow had me thinking at a casino if you raise, anyone still in the hand who goes all in to re raise you and is left without chips will have to fold when you re raise their re raise they'll be left chipless. Which sort of made sense to me, but they could just re-buy chips right then probably. I'm not 100% sure if you can re-buy during a hand as I've never seen anyone try to do it at a Casino. So the idea he put in my head sounded well, decent enough any ways. I would think whatever here would be universal, do casinos allow you to re-buy during a hand?

That's assuming a low blind no limit would let you buy in for a shit load (which I doubt) I know if you buy in for $100, at least where I play if you win $400 you can push in $400 on one hand, I don't think they'll let me buy in for a huge amount to start though. And it's also assuming they won't let a person re-buy during the hand, the whole "leave em wit a single $5 then when it's back on you go big" I'm guessing they could in fact re-buy, not sure if they could re-buy for $50 and go in against the $4,810. If they can re-buy and don't have to match my stack it's pointless and they would call probably 5/5 times if they called the initial $500 bet and could re-buy a low amount and do a split pot.
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you really should not be playing no limit unless you understand this. TABLE STAKES. you can't rebuy during a hand, you can't pull money out of your pocket. the chips you start the hand with are all you have to work with. also if you bet 140, someone has 150 and goes all in, you can't reraise. in short, you have no idea what you're doing.
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I would go as far as to say he should not be playing any poker...
 
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Epic Fail
Originally posted by: QueBert
I understand how to play poker, but where I play if you have the money in your pocket to cover a bet beyond the chips you have they'll allow it, if I was able to push in a stupid high amount for a $1-2 no limit table I don't see anyone being able to call even if they wanted to because who keeps that kind of cash on them? At low blind tables people play because they don't have tons of cash. If they let me bet $10,000 I could get everyone to fold every time. That's why I'm thinking they have to have some sort of limit. Otherwise what would stop somebody from going all in with an amount nobody can cover and stealing the pot every time it got to a decent amount. Even if it's just a $300 pot 4 or 5 or those an hour would add up after one night.
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This is absolutely wrong. You only play the chips on the table, there is no hidden pocket money. So if I carry a deed of my house to your poker game, I can reraise the 10k bettor with my house??
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No see, my thinking was a bit flawed, somebody I know told me, well basically this...

you have let's say $150 in chips in your stack, I have $5,000 in chips. It's on me to bet. I see you have $150 and bet $140, IF you decide to call you will 99% raise me your last $10 and when it comes back to me I push in the other $4,810. This idiot I know somehow had me thinking at a casino if you raise, anyone still in the hand who goes all in to re raise you and is left without chips will have to fold when you re raise their re raise they'll be left chipless. Which sort of made sense to me, but they could just re-buy chips right then probably. I'm not 100% sure if you can re-buy during a hand as I've never seen anyone try to do it at a Casino. So the idea he put in my head sounded well, decent enough any ways. I would think whatever here would be universal, do casinos allow you to re-buy during a hand?

That's assuming a low blind no limit would let you buy in for a shit load (which I doubt) I know if you buy in for $100, at least where I play if you win $400 you can push in $400 on one hand, I don't think they'll let me buy in for a huge amount to start though. And it's also assuming they won't let a person re-buy during the hand, the whole "leave em wit a single $5 then when it's back on you go big" I'm guessing they could in fact re-buy, not sure if they could re-buy for $50 and go in against the $4,810. If they can re-buy and don't have to match my stack it's pointless and they would call probably 5/5 times if they called the initial $500 bet and could re-buy a low amount and do a split pot.
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Originally posted by: QueBert
I understand how to play poker, but where I play if you have the money in your pocket to cover a bet beyond the chips you have they'll allow it, if I was able to push in a stupid high amount for a $1-2 no limit table I don't see anyone being able to call even if they wanted to because who keeps that kind of cash on them? At low blind tables people play because they don't have tons of cash. If they let me bet $10,000 I could get everyone to fold every time. That's why I'm thinking they have to have some sort of limit. Otherwise what would stop somebody from going all in with an amount nobody can cover and stealing the pot every time it got to a decent amount. Even if it's just a $300 pot 4 or 5 or those an hour would add up after one night.
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no ... no you dont.
 
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