hmmmm about Jesus...

TechBoyJK

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does any non christian peeps think that maybe Jesus was a cool guy, but his followers, over time, played things out kinda crazy? I sometimes wonder if Jesus came back around and read some of the things about him he would step back and say "WTF? When did I say/do that?"
 

AbAbber2k

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: rise
In short, you DON'T KNOW HOW TO THINK

i know that i know how to think. what i choose to think about is another thing :D

I think about naughty things that Jesus would disapprove of. :(
 

dwell

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I agree. I think the problem with Christianity is that we tend to hold Jesus up as a God, when he was indeed human. Ok, it's confusing, he was God, or God's son, or God in human form (six years of Catholic school and I still don't know the full story).

Anyway, my point is that he was human and had human traits and faults. If he came back today he would probably be a lot cooler than he is portrayed in the Bible. I mean, did Jesus ever crack a joke in the Bible? I am sure if he came back today he would be up for some fun and not sitting around preaching all day.
 

Tom

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I think you're right. He turned water into wine, that would be pretty handy at a frat party.
 

huberm

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Jesus was indeed real and there is quite a bit of evidence to support that He was the Messiah. Check out this book for more info (it was written by an atheist):

The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel

Also, if you read the Old Testament, there is prophecy everywhere about Jesus. The Old Testament was written long before Jesus was born - how do you suppose that happened?
 

zimu

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Originally posted by: Tom
I think you're right. He turned water into wine, that would be pretty handy at a frat party.

quote of the week. if i had been drinking water it'd have come out my nose :)
 

BMdoobieW

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
does any non christian peeps think that maybe Jesus was a cool guy, but his followers, over time, played things out kinda crazy? I sometimes wonder if Jesus came back around and read some of the things about him he would step back and say "WTF? When did I say/do that?"

That's what I'm thinking. Though I don't know if he was "cool" but he certainly was a "guy".
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Tom
I think you're right. He turned water into wine, that would be pretty handy at a frat party.


No, no he didn't.

If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
 

NL5

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
does any non christian peeps think that maybe Jesus was a cool guy, but his followers, over time, played things out kinda crazy?

The Jews, the Muslims, the Buddhists, etc, etc, etc - and Jesus was Jewish.



 

Kadarin

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I suspect Jesus would be utterly horrified at what Christianity is and has been over the years.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: huberm

Jesus was indeed real and there is quite a bit of evidence to support that He was the Messiah. Check out this book for more info (it was written by an atheist):

The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel

Also, if you read the Old Testament, there is prophecy everywhere about Jesus. The Old Testament was written long before Jesus was born - how do you suppose that happened?

Please cut the crap. Lee Strobel is not an Atheist. He says he USED to be an Atheist until he found Christ, so that makes him a Christian now (I quite frankly don't believe he used to be an Atheist though). He was just an out of control drunk and apparently couldn't control his own life and needed a crutch (Christianity) to get by. The guy is a fvcking moron. I recently picked apart one of his moronic seminars someone gave me to listen through just to see if what this guy was saying was legit. Surprise surprise, the guy is a moron. His little seminar was full of contradictions and just flat out moronic statements that ONLY someone that believed in this garbage would buy.

Strobel mentions fulfillment of the prophecies. Unfortunately, the prophecies are so vague ANYONE could have fulfilled them. But let's view this from a different angle. If the Old Testament was really the word of God, and Jesus was really the son of God, EVERY prophocies should be fulfilled, correct?

Micah 5:5 - And this man shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men.
Micah 5:6 ? And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders.
Sounds like Jesus forgot to ?waste the land of Assyria with the sword.? So either the Old Testament wasn't the word of God, or Jesus wasn't the son of God. You take your pick. Either way, the prophecy wasn't fulfilled. And no, there is NO evidence Jesus was the Messiah, son of God or a person with any extraordinary powers.

Strobel is the "used car salesman" of Christianity. And anyone that falls for his bullsh!t, is just a weak minded individual that is either too lazy or too afraid to look at his "evidence" and see that it is completely unfounded.

 

jEct2

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Same thing with Budda.

Didn't he specifically say, "I'm merely a man that reached enlightenment. Do not worship me, I am neither God or divine."

Human stupidity and their sheep-like mindset never ceases to amaze me.
 

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I sometimes wonder if Jesus came back around and read some of the things about him he would step back and say "WTF? When did I say/do that?"
There is no historical proof that Jesus could read.



 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I sometimes wonder if Jesus came back around and read some of the things about him he would step back and say "WTF? When did I say/do that?"
There is no historical proof that Jesus could read.

No, but did you know that Adam spoke EVERY language on earth! ;)
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I sometimes wonder if Jesus came back around and read some of the things about him he would step back and say "WTF? When did I say/do that?"
There is no historical proof that Jesus could read.

No, but did you know that Adam spoke EVERY language on earth! ;)
. . . And was involved in the first Apple customer complaint evah!

 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: NL5
Here is an article that PROVES the ressurection -

http://www.drdino.com/articles.php?spec=5

Are you fvcking serious? This is the FIRST time I've EVER heard of guards being placed at the tomb. Do Christians just make sh!t up as they go along? But let's pretend that guards were placed there. Wouldn't you think the guards would have been in shock to see the boulder being moved by one person and they would have DEFINITELY been in shock to see Jesus walk out. Wouldn't the word have made it back to Rome and its leaders? The leaders would have definitely taken the guards words seriously. It most likely wouldn't have been that he has resurrected, but that he is still alive and has escaped. The Romans I'm sure would have begun a man hunt then for Jesus. Since the word from the guards made it back to Rome, I'm sure this would have also been WELL documented, not just in The Bible. But we have no such documentation. So your little article actually PROVES Jesus did NOT resurrect. NO such events happened. Sorry buddy. Nice try.

Jesus Christ, can you Christians think things through a little bit before making sh!t up?
 

TeeJay1952

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When ever I see 'Chaplins" in the military, I get confused. Christ wouldn't have pulled a sword (or bomb) on anybody but I see Chaplins blessing planes going on a bombing run. Doesn't seem right to me but then I am an atheist.