Hmmm... Nexus 7 vs iPad 1, Ipad 1 won..

[TuxDave]

Funny, considering you have to "figure" stuff out regardless of what device you use.

It doesn't mean you have to like it.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

My nexus loses 1% of battery when in WiFi leaving it overnight 9pm-8am

 

[slackerinabox]

My nexus loses 1% of battery when in WiFi leaving it overnight 9pm-8am

Yeah, after doing a wipe and running completely stock (no launchers, widgets other than calendar, etc.) my standby time is fine. I still disable wifi on sleep, but I've been at 80ish percent since yesterday.



One quick difference - for fun I wrote a spiffy looking document on their word processor (Pages) and quickly printed it from my ipad using AirPrint - no drivers to install, no futzing with steps. PRINT -> AIRPRINT COMPATIBLE PRINTER.. DONE..

On my nexus 7 I couldn't find a word processor app that was nearly as handsome in layout choices or font choice, and could not find a stock way to print at all. I'm sure there's a stupidly involved work around (there always is, the joy of customization), but even if I did figure out printing I still wouldn't have the professional looking output that Pages was able to deliver.

Also having a lot of fun with media apps - we use the ipad like a multimedia remote (to airplay mkvs to our Apple TV, control our tivo dvr, watch on demand stuff, use rhapsody as a very cool looking multimedia jukebox [functionality exists on the android n7 but the presentation very lackluster, like rhapsody is a list of clickable text on android but on the ipad it's a wall of finger scrollable album art, almost metro like- looks sexy propped up on a stand and even our visitors can pick up and use it with no training). I guess fit and finish/polish is where I'm seeing the biggest difference.

THe wife is oddly getting a lot of mileage out of the nexus 7- she's much less ADHD than I am and just does tasks (reads kindle books, checks email, etc), while I like discovery and playing more. She still would not give up her iPhone 5 for anything, but I think the nexus 7 will be her go to, carry in her purse tablet. But she's also noticed stupid oversights, like the FIRST PARTY google branded case (and kinda expensive for just silicon, though apple's case is even more stupidly expensive - though it works), does not fit perfectly and does not suspend on close (so you have to press down on the power button that's difficult to press because the case isn't aligned perfectly). That's what's annoying about the android experience to me, the little things matter and apple gets them right (like the magnet on the smart cover that closes it perfectly and also suspends the device.. Or being able to print without fuss). To me, they matter but to others saving $130 over the apple equivalent is more important. I say $130 more for the mini is not a big deal when you factor in apple's much higher resale value (I bought my nexus phone 6 months ago for $350 and now probably can get $125 if i'm lucky, my wife bought her iphone 4 used for $250 and can probably craigslist it for $200, we paid full price for her iphone 5 but I think she can recoup 50% or more in 2 years).

Get an iPad, it's better

 

[JD50]

YES, my nexus 7 degraded over time speed wise. I'm no android expert and I'm sure a basement dweller will chime in on how I'm doing things wrong, but I blame a lot of it on background processes.. I can be just browsing the web with 4 tabs open and notice a massive slowdown, then see wifi activity spiking (google now?) or see that 5 apps are upgrading in the background. I'm sure there are workarounds, but it saddens me that android requires a level of expertise to use properly, otherwise flaws are considered 'user error' - whatever happened to devices just working? I turned our nexus 7 into a mutual ereader for me and my wife and installed a bare minimum of apps after a wipe - has returned to the speed of day 1, but still not as fast as my admittedly more expensive ipad 4. My wife's iphone 5 screams compared to my galaxy nexus, and her old 4 seems a bit faster too.

I'd say try the ipad mini. It's a great compromise. Even the ipad 2 is a beefier tablet than the nexus 7. I wouldn't spend the money on a nexus 10 at all based on the crappy tablet apps, but the hardware looks lovely for the price.

Is that really necessary? Most people have had a completely difference experience with the Nexus 7 than you, I'm sorry that offends you.

Turning off Google Now improved my battery life, but it still wasn't draining anything like yours. Does that make me some sort of wizard?

 

[Crap Daddy]

One quick difference - for fun I wrote a spiffy looking document on their word processor (Pages) and quickly printed it from my ipad using AirPrint - no drivers to install, no futzing with steps. PRINT -> AIRPRINT COMPATIBLE PRINTER.. DONE..

On my nexus 7 I couldn't find a word processor app that was nearly as handsome in layout choices or font choice, and could not find a stock way to print at all. I'm sure there's a stupidly involved work around (there always is, the joy of customization), but even if I did figure out printing I still wouldn't have the professional looking output that Pages was able to deliver.

Oh, boy. Kingsoft office and print with Google Cloud print. Maybe not as handsome but free all the way.

 

[lothar]

Yeah, after doing a wipe and running completely stock (no launchers, widgets other than calendar, etc.) my standby time is fine. I still disable wifi on sleep, but I've been at 80ish percent since yesterday.



One quick difference - for fun I wrote a spiffy looking document on their word processor (Pages) and quickly printed it from my ipad using AirPrint - no drivers to install, no futzing with steps. PRINT -> AIRPRINT COMPATIBLE PRINTER.. DONE..

On my nexus 7 I couldn't find a word processor app that was nearly as handsome in layout choices or font choice, and could not find a stock way to print at all. I'm sure there's a stupidly involved work around (there always is, the joy of customization), but even if I did figure out printing I still wouldn't have the professional looking output that Pages was able to deliver.

http://www.google.com/cloudprint/learn/index.html

 

[ponyo]

http://www.google.com/cloudprint/learn/index.html

He's so clueless that it's a wonder he found the power button to turn on the device.

 

[badb0y]

The app selection in iOS for tablets is way better than Android, I thought this was pretty common knowledge why are you surprised OP?

 

[slackerinabox]

http://www.google.com/cloudprint/learn/index.html

Meh, at least I'm not seeing something that you are, this is no where near as easy as airprint (do you have to open a third party each time you want to print vs. it being integrated into individual apps?). I could be wrong, I'm sure I can figure it out with some googling but is it as easy as "menu - PRINT TO AIRPRINT PRINTER?" Stock, no learning curve.

Also, kingoffice or whatever looks and works like a glorified text editor, pages is a full blown desktop quality app. I'd like to see ms office on both platforms, but pages is a nice compromise.

 

[Ophir]

I would argue that the majority of people don't like "figuring" stuff out.

... and THAT is a substantial problem with our society.

 

[annomander]

... and THAT is a substantial problem with our society.

People have different prioritys, just cause they don't feel the need to spend time tinkering with phone or tablet doesn't mean they are stupid or worthless just they prefer to spend their valuable time in other ways.

 

[Ophir]

People have different prioritys, just cause they don't feel the need to spend time tinkering with phone or tablet doesn't mean they are stupid or worthless just they prefer to spend their valuable time in other ways.

Of course it doesn't mean they're stupid. It means they're lazy. If you can't be bothered to put the onus on yourself to figure out solutions to your "problems" then you have bigger problems. That coupled with the lack of humility to even think that YOU may be the cause of your own problems is at the root of many societal issues.

Essentially all the issues listed in this thread are user caused, but yet there are many, many posts including the OP that want to blame a well designed inanimate device.

 

[slackerinabox]

People have different prioritys, just cause they don't feel the need to spend time tinkering with phone or tablet doesn't mean they are stupid or worthless just they prefer to spend their valuable time in other ways.

YES! "Android fans value customization, apple fans value their time!" I don't mean to be snobby on that, but I just don't have the time I used to and don't enjoy tinkering as much as I value reliability and polish. I like android as the democratic choice - tons of features at price levels previously not possible, but I don't think it's fair to put down iOS in return.

 

[tvdang7]

My nexus 7 battery life is good too. I cant compare it to an ipad but i get about 4-5 hours at least of netflix viewing straight ( been watching alot of seasons of shows this break) and the tablet still lasts a whole day with light browsing. So maybe the ipad is better in your testings.....but the nexus 7 is fine for me.

 

[Ophir]

YES! "Android fans value customization, apple fans value their time!" I don't mean to be snobby on that, but I just don't have the time I used to and don't enjoy tinkering as much as I value reliability and polish. I like android as the democratic choice - tons of features at price levels previously not possible, but I don't think it's fair to put down iOS in return.

BS. A properly configured Android device can add substantial productivity improvements over iOS.

My home screen has a an agenda widget that shows my itinerary for the day, a Gmail widget that shows unread messages, a Google Voice widget for VMs, Astrid tasks, weather forecasts, and power control widgets. At a glance I can keep connected with my world. In iOS I'd need to flip through I don’t know how many apps and screens to accomplish the same tasks.

Add to that the benefits behind SwiftKey and the App drawer, and the iOS vs Android productivity argument becomes very ambiguous.

 

[zerocool84]

YES! "Android fans value customization, apple fans value their time!" I don't mean to be snobby on that, but I just don't have the time I used to and don't enjoy tinkering as much as I value reliability and polish. I like android as the democratic choice - tons of features at price levels previously not possible, but I don't think it's fair to put down iOS in return.

Well the millions more people that own Android devices over iOS devices seem to be able to use them just perfectly fine without needing to customize them at all so it's definitely not an Android problem.

 

[lopri]

I wouldn't keep feeding a troll. S/he will keep bumping until someone takes the bait. Best let it go unresponded.

 

[lothar]

Meh, at least I'm not seeing something that you are, this is no where near as easy as airprint (do you have to open a third party each time you want to print vs. it being integrated into individual apps?). I could be wrong, I'm sure I can figure it out with some googling but is it as easy as "menu - PRINT TO AIRPRINT PRINTER?" Stock, no learning curve.

Also, kingoffice or whatever looks and works like a glorified text editor, pages is a full blown desktop quality app. I'd like to see ms office on both platforms, but pages is a nice compromise.

You've never heard about it or used it and yet you're making a foolish assumption that something else is easier. Color me surprised.

What a stupid question.
If you can't figure it out from the link, then stick to using iOS.

 

[lothar]

I wouldn't keep feeding a troll. S/he will keep bumping until someone takes the bait. Best let it go unresponded.

Sometimes trolls need to be fed so the world would see how stupid and irrational they are.
Nearly all his criticisms mentioned in this thread have been disputed and are attributable to user error.

 

[annomander]

Of course it doesn't mean they're stupid. It means they're lazy. If you can't be bothered to put the onus on yourself to figure out solutions to your "problems" then you have bigger problems. That coupled with the lack of humility to even think that YOU may be the cause of your own problems is at the root of many societal issues.

Essentially all the issues listed in this thread are user caused, but yet there are many, many posts including the OP that want to blame a well designed inanimate device.

wow, you have issues! Look, some people think loading up a different rom on your phone as something they not the slightest bit interested in, they want something that just works.

Don't think your superior cause that is something that is important to you but not to them, cause of social issues? my god get a grip on yourself

 

[Ophir]

wow, you have issues! Look, some people think loading up a different rom on your phone as something they not the slightest bit interested in, they want something that just works.

Don't think your superior cause that is something that is important to you but not to them, cause of social issues? my god get a grip on yourself

Did I ever say I was superior to anyone? I do think I am superior to YOU because I can properly use contractions, capitalization, and sentence structure. That said, I wholeheartedly believe a lack of personal accountability is at the heart of many social issues. People refuse to point the finger at themselves. This is just another scenario of such.

To argue your first statement, when has anyone needed to load a new ROM on a Nexus 7 to get it to "just work?" It does so out of the box. Moreover, I never even implied you need to do so - that is a conclusion you jumped to.