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Pacfanweb

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What difference does it make what color the attackers are? They broke in, they beat the homeowner's stepson to where he has brain damage, the homeowner shot them. You can't go back and second-guess someone in that kind of situation, legimately, from the safety of your computer desk or a court room.

Only mistake I see the homeowner made was missing the 3rd attacker.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: narcotic
I don't see the racial issue here, anyone who breaks into my home, and I'm there to respond I'll pump him with so much lead that his dna sample would show he was a Chinese-made Action Figure.

fixed;)

reparations have been made....
 

LTC8K6

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The shootout is the robber's fault. The results of the shootout are the robber's fault.

If you are the getaway driver, and never even enter the store, you are a murderer too.

 

Pacfanweb

Lifer
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Originally posted by: RaiderJ
People who break into my house will be shot. Survivors will be shot again.
Damn right. You have MUCH less chance of getting in any trouble if your side of the story is the ONLY side.
 

MBrown

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I don't think he should be charged with murder. He didn't murder anyone. He should be charged for breaking into the mans house.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
What difference does it make what color the attackers are? They broke in, they beat the homeowner's stepson to where he has brain damage, the homeowner shot them. You can't go back and second-guess someone in that kind of situation, legimately, from the safety of your computer desk or a court room.

Only mistake I see the homeowner made was missing the 3rd attacker.

I don't think anyone here is disputing the homeowner's right to shoot them (well, the NAACP, but they don't post on ATOT). The issue is whether the third attacker should get charged with murder.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: MBrown
I don't think he should be charged with murder. He didn't murder anyone. He should be charged for breaking into the mans house.

I agree 100% with you, I also think it should be punishable by death.
 

mugs

Lifer
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I swear I saw this on Law & Order once...

First degree murder is a bit much. Manslaughter would be better I think.
 
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This is felony murder IMO. He and his cohorts went into that house with the intention of robbery by force, and perhaps worse. I do not see this as racism, and have no sympathy for this asshole.
 

FallenHero

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Its called Felony murder in IL here. If ANYONE dies during as a result of someone committing a felony, that person faces murder charges. And its invoked often enough where I would not call it "rare" as this reporter does.
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: txrandom
Third black guy shouldn't be charged with murder of the two other black guys, but should be charged with attempted murder of the stepson.

ding ding ding winnah!

plus of course breaking and entering
 

mooglemania85

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Originally posted by: Flash1969
I'm supposed to feel sorry for the third black man? Sorry but I don't.

Originally posted by: destrekor
if you break into my house, and beat my son with a baseball bat, damn straight I am going to shoot. If I had a gun, and a house, and a son. But the idea remains. ;)

QFT. Shoot to kill. None of that bs about how they just wanted pot and were in the process of fleeing.

 

Narmer

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Fuck him. Hang him from a tree.

They're coming out of the woodworks. You just had yourself a rootin tootin klan meeting about this matter? That was the verdict?
 

Oceandevi

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Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
in massachusetts, you have to prove beyond rediculous doubt that:

1. your life was in immenent danger
2. you are not white, nor have you ever been white
3. you gave the intruder a handjob and a batch of freshly baked cookies

if all 3 conditions are met, you are legally entitled to call the police with your dying breath so they can draw an outline around your body.

in texas you just shoot em.
 

Kelemvor

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Whatever it takes to kill off the third guy is what should be done. Anyone that breaks into someone's house, attacks someone, murder, rape etc... They should all be killed. Don't want to die? Stop breaking the law. Doesn't matter if the people breaking in were white, black, yellow, pink, or anything else. You don't deserve to live.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: OdiN
Fuck him. Hang him from a tree.

They're coming out of the woodworks. You just had yourself a rootin tootin klan meeting about this matter? That was the verdict?

BWAHAHAHA, coming from YOU this is exceptionally rich!:laugh:

Originally posted by: Narmer
My main concentration is how she knowingly broke the law and is complaining for being punished for breaking said laws. She's playing the sympathy card. No one is (or should be) above the law. You break it, you get the necessary punishment.
Originally posted by: Narmer
I have a special place in my heart for vengeance. Nothing for forgiveness.
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: yllus
LOL. Man, are you ever a sick little fuck.

Yeah, I'm the sick one for trying to uphold the law:roll:.

It's pretty clear in this matter that the law allows for him to be charged with burglary, B&E, assault, AND felony murder. While the prosecution isn't seeking the death penalty in this case, they could very well for that list of crimes.

What's the matter, don't want to "uphold the law" anymore?:roll:
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: OdiN
Fuck him. Hang him from a tree.

They're coming out of the woodworks. You just had yourself a rootin tootin klan meeting about this matter? That was the verdict?

What the hell are you talking about, dumbass?

Hang the criminal from a tree. Hell...that's better than he deserves after participating in bashing that guys head in. Perhaps he should have his head bashed in the same way, but that would cost the taxpayers more money.

Oh, and STFU you racist prick. Good job coming in here and assuming that I'm only saying something because the dumbass criminal fuckstick happens to be black. I don't give a shit if he's purple and pink, hang the fucker.
 

Dean

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The charges in this parallel the charges in that high speed chase in which two helicopter news crews collided, causing four deaths. The guy running from the cops was changed with those 4 "murders"

That one was kinda weak, this one seems like a more justified charge.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: OdiN
Fuck him. Hang him from a tree.

They're coming out of the woodworks. You just had yourself a rootin tootin klan meeting about this matter? That was the verdict?

What the hell are you talking about, dumbass?

Hang the criminal from a tree. Hell...that's better than he deserves after participating in bashing that guys head in. Perhaps he should have his head bashed in the same way, but that would cost the taxpayers more money.

Oh, and STFU you racist prick. Good job coming in here and assuming that I'm only saying something because the dumbass criminal fuckstick happens to be black. I don't give a shit if he's purple and pink, hang the fucker.

If you knew a thing or two about American history, you'd understand why "hang him from a tree" has different implications than "put him in the chair" or some other method of execution. Even "hang him from the gallows." But "hang him from a tree" when referring to a black guy is a really, really dumb thing to say.
 

markgm

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The kids are 11 years younger than their step father? That's got to be an interesting trailer to live in.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: OdiN
Fuck him. Hang him from a tree.

They're coming out of the woodworks. You just had yourself a rootin tootin klan meeting about this matter? That was the verdict?

What the hell are you talking about, dumbass?

Hang the criminal from a tree. Hell...that's better than he deserves after participating in bashing that guys head in. Perhaps he should have his head bashed in the same way, but that would cost the taxpayers more money.

Oh, and STFU you racist prick. Good job coming in here and assuming that I'm only saying something because the dumbass criminal fuckstick happens to be black. I don't give a shit if he's purple and pink, hang the fucker.

If you knew a thing or two about American history, you'd understand why "hang him from a tree" has different implications than "put him in the chair" or some other method of execution. Even "hang him from the gallows." But "hang him from a tree" when referring to a black guy is a really, really dumb thing to say.

What else you gonna hang someone from? There are trees everywhere.

Anyway, I'd say shoot him, but you can re-use rope and it doesn't cost as much as a bullet.
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: FoBoT
and if the surviving criminal can be locked up longer with this strategy , then it is correct

Dangerous ground. This is the sort of reasoning that sees 18-year-olds serving 5-year jail sentences for getting BJs from their 17-year-old girlfriends.

yes, that is illegal, do the crime, do the time