Hmm... where did that LSx go...

[MikeMike]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ru4ybNpJ1g

 

[JulesMaximus]

That is an abomination.

 

[thomsbrain]

Pretty sure the WRX is actually heavier than a Corvette, so I'm not exactly blown away by the possibilities. The Miata swaps look like a lot more fun.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
That is an abomination.

lol what's wrong

 

[mwmorph]

If I'm seeing it correctly, this guy put a LSX in a WRX, attached 1 fart can, destroying the sound as well as having to use a Y tube, and then realized that the motor barely fit and wasn't able to fit anything in front of the MAF sensor, not even a air filter...

There is no reason a LSX should ever sound like a I4 (The lazy burble on idle and decel is my favorite part about big American V8s), and that motor will be dead in a few k miles anyways from ingesting sand and dust nonstop.

it's an abomination.

 

[SparkyJJO]

I don't think it was done yet. I'm sure the air filter and stuff will go on.

I was wondering about the exhaust though. Struck me as quite wrong.

 

[evident]

i'll take that 67 mustang powered by the old GTR's RB26DETT in F&F Tokyo Drift. cooler novelty factor

 

[geno]

:thumbsup:

 

[franksta]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

I was wondering about the exhaust though. Struck me as quite wrong.

He's probably just keeping up the rice burner appearance.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

They used an LQ4, which is an iron block truck motor. Not an LS* which has an aluminum block.

 

[AdamK47]

The LQ4 is a big heavy motor. Very odd to put in what is supposed to be a somewhat light performance car.

 

[halik]

Why? Take away the AWD defeats the purpose of that car.

 

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: halik
Why? Take away the AWD defeats the purpose of that car.

Same reason it's been done to a Skyline, Civic, etc. Just to do it

 

[CurseTheSky]

I'd be more impressed if they threw it into something like a Camry. It would make a hilarious sleeper... if it wasn't for the classic rumble at idle.

 

[MotF Bane]

That's a fail. Sounds like crap, and it's not an LS*.

 

[RichUK]

Sounds awful.

 

[joutlaw]

I disagree that the LQ4 isn't an LSx.

The LM7, LQ4, LQ9, LS1 etc. all use the same basic engine design and are of the LSx family.

The truck motors LM7, LQ4, LQ9 use iron blocks. The LM7 (5.3L) does have a aluminum variant that has been put in GMC Envoys and full size trucks.

A lot of the 5.3s even have been paired with LS1 heads (243 casting number I believe). So if you had an aluminum block 5.3L with 243 heads... you essential had a 5.3L LS1 minus the cam.

A lot of people go with the LQ4 and LQ9 motors if they want to run NO2 or boost. They are also signficantly cheaper than LS1s and you get more displacement at 6.0L versus the LS1's 5.7L.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: joutlaw
I disagree that the LQ4 isn't an LSx.

The LM7, LQ4, LQ9, LS1 etc. all use the same basic engine design and are of the LSx family.

The truck motors LM7, LQ4, LQ9 use iron blocks. The LM7 (5.3L) does have a aluminum variant that has been put in GMC Envoys and full size trucks.

A lot of the 5.3s even have been paired with LS1 heads (243 casting number I believe). So if you had an aluminum block 5.3L with 243 heads... you essential had a 5.3L LS1 minus the cam.

A lot of people go with the LQ4 and LQ9 motors if they want to run NO2 or boost. They are also signficantly cheaper than LS1s and you get more displacement at 6.0L versus the LS1's 5.7L.

You can disagree all you want, but it's not an LSx. It's an LQ4. Yes they share a lot of the same fundamental design, but it isn't an LSx, it's an LQ4. As you just stated. You feelin' okay?

 

[fbrdphreak]

What the hell is strapped onto the intake manifold? Is that a TB Spacer? What are those gold pieces?

Neat concept, a bit more so than the LSx Evo IMO, but poor execution. Fartcan? Seriously? Red intake manifold and blue FRC's? But wait, it has a stock WRX shifter. Ah, there's the subtlety.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
What the hell is strapped onto the intake manifold? Is that a TB Spacer? What are those gold pieces?

Neat concept, a bit more so than the LSx Evo IMO, but poor execution. Fartcan? Seriously? Red intake manifold and blue FRC's? But wait, it has a stock WRX shifter. Ah, there's the subtlety.

Looks like a gold plated MAF, attached to either red rubber tubing or a air bypass valve attacted to a Throttle body a few mm from the radiator which means no room for additional plumbing to route in colder air that hasnt been preheated by the radiator, or attach a air filter.

There's also problems with that since no plumbing means no resonance to reflect pressure waves, which meas lower turbulence in the air entering the engine and thus, lower power.

 

[joutlaw]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: joutlaw
I disagree that the LQ4 isn't an LSx.

The LM7, LQ4, LQ9, LS1 etc. all use the same basic engine design and are of the LSx family.

The truck motors LM7, LQ4, LQ9 use iron blocks. The LM7 (5.3L) does have a aluminum variant that has been put in GMC Envoys and full size trucks.

A lot of the 5.3s even have been paired with LS1 heads (243 casting number I believe). So if you had an aluminum block 5.3L with 243 heads... you essential had a 5.3L LS1 minus the cam.

A lot of people go with the LQ4 and LQ9 motors if they want to run NO2 or boost. They are also signficantly cheaper than LS1s and you get more displacement at 6.0L versus the LS1's 5.7L.

You can disagree all you want, but it's not an LSx. It's an LQ4. Yes they share a lot of the same fundamental design, but it isn't an LSx, it's an LQ4. As you just stated. You feelin' okay?

Geez someone got their panties in a wad. Generally most people use LSx as an abbreviation for any GenIII or GenIV small block.

The LS1 and LQ4 are GenIII small blocks.

The LS3 and L76 are GenIV small blocks. The L76/L92/LS3 all use the same heads.

The LS1 and LQ4 have more in common than a LS1 and LS3.

All of these 3 letter engine codes are the RPO codes given by GM.

To add more to the confusion there is an actual LSX which is iron block version of the LS7.


Check out the LSx shootout - http://www.fasteststreetcar.com/lsx/

You think people with LQ4,LQ9,L76,L92s etc. are not going to be able to enter because the RPO code of their motor doesn't begin with LS?

http://www.fasteststreetcar.co.../2009/lsx_allmotor.pdf

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: joutlaw

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: joutlaw
I disagree that the LQ4 isn't an LSx.

The LM7, LQ4, LQ9, LS1 etc. all use the same basic engine design and are of the LSx family.

The truck motors LM7, LQ4, LQ9 use iron blocks. The LM7 (5.3L) does have a aluminum variant that has been put in GMC Envoys and full size trucks.

A lot of the 5.3s even have been paired with LS1 heads (243 casting number I believe). So if you had an aluminum block 5.3L with 243 heads... you essential had a 5.3L LS1 minus the cam.

A lot of people go with the LQ4 and LQ9 motors if they want to run NO2 or boost. They are also signficantly cheaper than LS1s and you get more displacement at 6.0L versus the LS1's 5.7L.

You can disagree all you want, but it's not an LSx. It's an LQ4. Yes they share a lot of the same fundamental design, but it isn't an LSx, it's an LQ4. As you just stated. You feelin' okay?

Geez someone got their panties in a wad. Generally most people use LSx as an abbreviation for any GenIII or GenIV small block.

The LS1 and LQ4 are GenIII small blocks.

The LS3 and L76 are GenIV small blocks. The L76/L92/LS3 all use the same heads.

The LS1 and LQ4 have more in common than a LS1 and LS3.

All of these 3 letter engine codes are the RPO codes given by GM.

To add more to the confusion there is an actual LSX which is iron block version of the LS7.


Check out the LSx shootout - http://www.fasteststreetcar.com/lsx/

You think people with LQ4,LQ9,L76,L92s etc. are not going to be able to enter because the RPO code of their motor doesn't begin with LS?

http://www.fasteststreetcar.co.../2009/lsx_allmotor.pdf

No panties wadded here. Is an LQ motor similar to the LS in a number of ways? Yes. Is it accepted and discussed in the same circles? Yes.

Is an LQ motor the same as an LS motor? No. It's an LQ.

What's so hard to understand?

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: CurseTheSky
I'd be more impressed if they threw it into something like a Camry. It would make a hilarious sleeper... if it wasn't for the classic rumble at idle.

I've been wanting to put a V8 RWD drivetrain under my Accord for a while. Too much money and too much bodywork for me to take on, though.

 

[joutlaw]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: joutlaw

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: joutlaw
I disagree that the LQ4 isn't an LSx.

The LM7, LQ4, LQ9, LS1 etc. all use the same basic engine design and are of the LSx family.

The truck motors LM7, LQ4, LQ9 use iron blocks. The LM7 (5.3L) does have a aluminum variant that has been put in GMC Envoys and full size trucks.

A lot of the 5.3s even have been paired with LS1 heads (243 casting number I believe). So if you had an aluminum block 5.3L with 243 heads... you essential had a 5.3L LS1 minus the cam.

A lot of people go with the LQ4 and LQ9 motors if they want to run NO2 or boost. They are also signficantly cheaper than LS1s and you get more displacement at 6.0L versus the LS1's 5.7L.

You can disagree all you want, but it's not an LSx. It's an LQ4. Yes they share a lot of the same fundamental design, but it isn't an LSx, it's an LQ4. As you just stated. You feelin' okay?

Geez someone got their panties in a wad. Generally most people use LSx as an abbreviation for any GenIII or GenIV small block.

The LS1 and LQ4 are GenIII small blocks.

The LS3 and L76 are GenIV small blocks. The L76/L92/LS3 all use the same heads.

The LS1 and LQ4 have more in common than a LS1 and LS3.

All of these 3 letter engine codes are the RPO codes given by GM.

To add more to the confusion there is an actual LSX which is iron block version of the LS7.


Check out the LSx shootout - http://www.fasteststreetcar.com/lsx/

You think people with LQ4,LQ9,L76,L92s etc. are not going to be able to enter because the RPO code of their motor doesn't begin with LS?

http://www.fasteststreetcar.co.../2009/lsx_allmotor.pdf

No panties wadded here. Is an LQ motor similar to the LS in a number of ways? Yes. Is it accepted and discussed in the same circles? Yes.

Is an LQ motor the same as an LS motor? No. It's an LQ.

What's so hard to understand?

Straight from wiki...

The LS series is a new design intended as the only V-8 engine utilized in General Motors' line of RWD cars and trucks. The LS series was a clean sheet design with little in common with the classic Chevrolet small block V8. The LS is all-aluminum and has 6-bolt main bearing caps.

The LS engine has been the sole powerplant of the Chevrolet Corvette since 1997 and has seen use in a wide variety of other General Motors vehicles, ranging from sport coupes to full size trucks. Due to the engine's relatively compact external dimensions compared to its displacement and power output, the engine family is also a popular choice for kit cars, hot rods, buggies, and even light aircraft.

The engine blocks were cast in aluminum for car applications, and iron for most truck applications (notable exceptions include the Chevrolet TrailBlazer SS, Chevrolet SSR and a limited run of Chevrolet/GMC Extended Cab Standard Box Z71 Trucks).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_LS_engine

http://www.enginebuildermag.co...m_lsseries_engine.aspx

The Gen III engine (and subsequent next generation Gen IV) family consists of a wide variety of V8 engines, ranging from the 5.3L LS4 to the 7.0L LS7 in automobile configurations and Vortec 4.8L to L92 6.2L truck engines. They all have significant differences, but they also have similarities that follow along throughout the limbs of the family tree. For that reason, it?s often easier to refer to the whole bunch as the LS engine family.

That just the first two links I found... so I don't think I'm alone in saying GenIII and GenIV small blocks are referred to as LS series engines.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

I noted the distinction mainly because of the significant weight difference (about 100LBs). But the LQ9 and the LS2 will also have different cams, compression ratios, and that sort of thing.

Now, if someone was planning on doing some serious work involving boring, stroking, boosting, etc... I can see the LQ9 being used for durability and machinability reasons. Especially given that the iron block can be bored w/o resleeving. Basically a much cheaper LSX