Hmm...Money Problem! 2.4C or 2500+?

[morphingboy78]

I really want 2.4C because it can generally OC to the 3Ghz speeds with only stock cooling, also that 800Mhz bus helps out a lot. But the thing is, buying ram & the cpu itself is very expensive. However, if I make a PC out of 2500+, it's a lot cheaper but the I can just get XMS PC3200 & there is an onboard videocard that I can use.(Not a gamer) But how much of a performance increase is there from 2.4C to 2500+?

 

[INGlewood78]

What are you planning on using your computer for??

 

[fragme]

If your not a gamer and could consider a onboard videocard then buy cheapest possible. Even Celeron is absolutely enough.

I considered Barton even as a gamer.

But...

The good thing with P4C is Hyperthreading which makes things smother. Im not sure but people who have had a similar speed without it are saying it really makes a diffrence.

My computer runs smooth and having one CPU intense program running and opening another without a wait is great.

 

[orion7144]

You should go for the P4. By the time you get a good HSF for the Barton the price is almost the same anyway. You can pick up a 2.4C for around $170 and a Barton for $95 then you have to get a good HSF for the Barton that could be as much as $40-$50 extra. Fragme is right about the P4's beeing smoother.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: orion7144
You should go for the P4. By the time you get a good HSF for the Barton the price is almost the same anyway. You can pick up a 2.4C for around $170 and a Barton for $95 then you have to get a good HSF for the Barton that could be as much as $40-$50 extra. Fragme is right about the P4's beeing smoother.

or you can get a $7 speeze cooler. if your gonna OC your barton, it can get prolly get up 2200 easily which will be able to run with the 3Ghz

 

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Originally posted by: orion7144
You should go for the P4. By the time you get a good HSF for the Barton the price is almost the same anyway. You can pick up a 2.4C for around $170 and a Barton for $95 then you have to get a good HSF for the Barton that could be as much as $40-$50 extra. Fragme is right about the P4's beeing smoother.

Not exactly, you can get an excellent overclocking HSF for under $10. I have no idea who spread the myth that you have to spend loads more money on an Athlon XP HSF.

I would suggest a 1700+ CPU from Newegg and the $10 HSF for a grand total of $55 instead of the 2.4C and HSF combo for $180. There's no point in spending $125 more for the P4 system if you're not going to be doing any intensive gaming or the like. With that $10 HSF you're almost guaranteed (overclocking is not guaranteed per se, but the success rate is very very high with the 1700+) at least a 2GHz overclock, roughly equivalent to a 2600+ Tbred-B processor.

There is zero point in getting a P4 Celeron if an Athlon XP Thoroughbred-B CPU running at 1.47GHz (that's what a 1700+ is) can be had for less. Do not get a Celeron, it's a complete waste of money in every way you can possibly imagine.

 

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Originally posted by: Evan Lieb

Originally posted by: orion7144
You should go for the P4. By the time you get a good HSF for the Barton the price is almost the same anyway. You can pick up a 2.4C for around $170 and a Barton for $95 then you have to get a good HSF for the Barton that could be as much as $40-$50 extra. Fragme is right about the P4's beeing smoother.

Not exactly, you can get an excellent overclocking HSF for under $10. I have no idea who spread the myth that you have to spend loads more money on an Athlon XP HSF.

I would suggest a 1700+ CPU from Newegg and the $10 HSF for a grand total of $55 instead of the 2.4C and HSF combo for $180. There's no point in spending $125 more for the P4 system if you're not going to be doing any intensive gaming or the like. With that $10 HSF you're almost guaranteed (overclocking is not guaranteed per se, but the success rate is very very high with the 1700+) at least a 2GHz overclock, roughly equivalent to a 2600+ Tbred-B processor.

There is zero point in getting a P4 Celeron if an Athlon XP Thoroughbred-B CPU running at 1.47GHz (that's what a 1700+ is) can be had for less. Do not get a Celeron, it's a complete waste of money in every way you can possibly imagine.

excellent heatsink recommendation, i didnt think of that one (i thought i was the only one posting @ 2:30 in the morning)

 

[morphingboy78]

Well I decided I wouldn't get the 2.4C because it is quite expensive. Instead I'm going to get Barton 2500+ because I do want this computer to last a while. However, if 1700+ is really that great of a OCer than I'll get that, but I'm a n00b when it comes to overclocking. Also, what ram should I get? Right now I'm thinking about pairing up the Barton 2500+ with XMS 3200, but is that overkill?

 

[teraeric]

bbuy has hyperx 3500 512 for about $100 this week... good option for oc'ing the 2500... and future playing... test of hyperx

 

[INGlewood78]

The 0319 DL3TCs from SVCs have been getting real good results...up there with the 0310s...Heres what I would get...

1700+ 0319
Abit NF7-S
Some good ram (HyperX or Corsair XMS)
Decent HSF

Depending on how much ram u want...this setup can run u around $250 bucks!!! These chips can EASILY overclock to 3000+ speeds.

Personally, the extra cache of the bartons helps in too few apps...doenst justify the price incease