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hmm, lots of addiction threads today

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Originally posted by: Howard
Addicted to food? What?
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I'm addicted to food. Start to get withdrawal symptoms if I go without a fix for more than a few hours. After a day or so, withdrawal gets really unpleasant. Never been able to go longer than that in my attempts to kick the habit.

😛
 
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
you should put heroin and pain killers in one group labeled opiates...
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Yeah no doubt. To me the high between hydro, oxy, methadone, suboxone, fentynal is pretty comparable.
 
Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
you should put heroin and pain killers in one group labeled opiates...
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Yeah no doubt. To me the high between hydro, oxy, methadone, suboxone, fentynal is pretty comparable.
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yep, and they all come from popiverum somnivum. well except methadone, that's the only TRULY synthetic opoid.
 
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: JohnCU
OH COME ON, how can you be addicted to weed?
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Are you serious?

How can you be addicted to alcohol? Or sex? Or chocolate?

Marijuana may not be as powerful of an addiction as alcohol, cigarettes or pain killers, but believe me, it most certainly exists.

I can tell you more, if you would like. The withdrawl symptoms are mild and just generally unpleasant, but they exist. For me, it comes in the form of nausea. It's also very hard to eat and sleep for the first couple of days because it regulates those things so much.

Marijuana addiction is very real, and you're right that it isn't the same as alcohol or cigarettes, but it still exists.
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Wow, i had no idea. i never hear about anyone going to marijuana rehab and everyone who's ever smoked tells me that it's not addicting... sorry.
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It is, but it isn't. It is different. It's hard to explain, and you obviously have to smoke regularly for it to become an issue.

Many people experience no withdrawls, but the typical ones are pretty mild in the scheme of things. If you're active and not paying attention to the whole scenario, it does make it easier.

It's much more of a psychological thing than physical, but the empty pit in your stomach-nausea thing is pretty common. The sleep and eat thing is just more of a consequence of not having those stimulants around than a "withdrawl", I would say.
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If I had to explain it, I'd say once you've smoked for a while you become indoctrinated into the culture. Personally, I'm addicted to the process. The ritual if you will. Roll it up and pass it around. The high is just an after-effect. I smoke almost daily at school, but every summer when I come home I go cold turkey. The first day off can suck, but after like 36 hours it's a non-issue.

To anybody out there who's in the same boat, Damiana is a very good herb to smoke that mellows you out and tastes great, but it doesn't come with the multi-hour commitment afterwards. Dried hops are good too, but a little harsh.
 
I got mildly addicted to Vicadin when I broke my ankle a few years ago ... didn't realize until I stopped taking it & felt like total crap for a few days.

I also smoked Cigarettes approx 20 years ago & was majorly addicted ... in fact quitting them was 1000x harder then Vicadin.
 
Originally posted by: peller
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: JohnCU
OH COME ON, how can you be addicted to weed?
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Are you serious?

How can you be addicted to alcohol? Or sex? Or chocolate?

Marijuana may not be as powerful of an addiction as alcohol, cigarettes or pain killers, but believe me, it most certainly exists.

I can tell you more, if you would like. The withdrawl symptoms are mild and just generally unpleasant, but they exist. For me, it comes in the form of nausea. It's also very hard to eat and sleep for the first couple of days because it regulates those things so much.

Marijuana addiction is very real, and you're right that it isn't the same as alcohol or cigarettes, but it still exists.
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Wow, i had no idea. i never hear about anyone going to marijuana rehab and everyone who's ever smoked tells me that it's not addicting... sorry.
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It is, but it isn't. It is different. It's hard to explain, and you obviously have to smoke regularly for it to become an issue.

Many people experience no withdrawls, but the typical ones are pretty mild in the scheme of things. If you're active and not paying attention to the whole scenario, it does make it easier.

It's much more of a psychological thing than physical, but the empty pit in your stomach-nausea thing is pretty common. The sleep and eat thing is just more of a consequence of not having those stimulants around than a "withdrawl", I would say.
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If I had to explain it, I'd say once you've smoked for a while you become indoctrinated into the culture. Personally, I'm addicted to the process. The ritual if you will. Roll it up and pass it around. The high is just an after-effect. I smoke almost daily at school, but every summer when I come home I go cold turkey. The first day off can suck, but after like 36 hours it's a non-issue.

To anybody out there who's in the same boat, Damiana is a very good herb to smoke that mellows you out and tastes great, but it doesn't come with the multi-hour commitment afterwards. Dried hops are good too, but a little harsh.
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You just explained a psychological addiction, not a physical addiction.

Physically addictive = coke, meth, heroin, barbituates (sp?), etc

Herb is not physically addictive.

I've never gotten physical withdrawals when I stopped smoking. Caffeine on the other hand is a fucking bitch.
 
Woot coming up on 18 years without a
Drink
without Coke
without Crank
without Weed


Oh and just hit 9 days without Cigs and Caffeine!
 
You should add video games, swearing, and talking about your cats. I am not addicted to swearing, or video games... but the cat thing... you got me.
 
I used to work with my union's Addiction Recovery department and my understanding (from the training I had to take) is that pot can be mentally addicting, (dependence) but NOT physically addictive.
 
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: peller
If I had to explain it, I'd say once you've smoked for a while you become indoctrinated into the culture. Personally, I'm addicted to the process. The ritual if you will. Roll it up and pass it around. The high is just an after-effect. I smoke almost daily at school, but every summer when I come home I go cold turkey. The first day off can suck, but after like 36 hours it's a non-issue.

To anybody out there who's in the same boat, Damiana is a very good herb to smoke that mellows you out and tastes great, but it doesn't come with the multi-hour commitment afterwards. Dried hops are good too, but a little harsh.
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You just explained a psychological addiction, not a physical addiction.

Physically addictive = coke, meth, heroin, barbituates (sp?), etc

Herb is not physically addictive.

I've never gotten physical withdrawals when I stopped smoking. Caffeine on the other hand is a fucking bitch.
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Apparently I wasn't clear enough, because I agree 100% with you. What I'm trying to say is, you take somebody without much self control and make herb readily available and they will continue to smoke. They don't need/crave in the sense that people who are physically addicted do, but the end result is the same: they'll keep smoking.
I suppose what we should really be arguing about is the definition of an addiction. IMO in the eyes of your average citizen (ie straight edge or alcohol only) there is no difference between a psychological addiction or physical addiction. Considering the choices presented by the OP, it seemed to me like both definitions applied. Sorry for the confusion.
 
Originally posted by: JohnCU
it appears ATOT has its fair share of addicts. i don't feel so lonely anymore! :thumbsup:
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I'm really trying to talk myself out of going to the store and getting some liquor even though I know it's stupid. I was drunk the whole weekend and have to work tomorrow.
 
I think I'm dependent on my sleeping medication now 🙁

I have issues sleeping as it was and it does help me sleep but holy shit is it impossible to sleep through the night without them now.

Drugs are bad.
 
Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: JohnCU
it appears ATOT has its fair share of addicts. i don't feel so lonely anymore! :thumbsup:
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I'm really trying to talk myself out of going to the store and getting some liquor even though I know it's stupid. I was drunk the whole weekend and have to work tomorrow.
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been there, done that. i took vacation for the next 2 days so i can continue my binge 🙁
 
Originally posted by: lokiju
I think I'm dependent on my sleeping medication now 🙁

I have issues sleeping as it was and it does help me sleep but holy shit is it impossible to sleep through the night without them now.

Abusing Drugs are bad.
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Corrected.
 
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