Hmm aparently I owe an extra $800

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fataIerror

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Originally posted by: Jfur
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Deeko, don't actually go to court, but prepare documents as if you were. For example, did you sign something, is there anything in writing. Write down what you think you agreed on, make a list of payments you made (any by check?) and dates paid. because it's family, you may have no paper trail, but anything could help. Make a very clear list that is easy to follow and present this to your father as maturely as possible (I'm not saying you aren't but be as businesslike as you can). Present your evidence. If he still doesn't budge than there's not much to be done, unless you DO have actual docuements and are really willing to pursue it in court.

The reason I never try to borrow from family is because there are often complications. The one time I did I was 14 and I borrowed $5.00 from my mother. She made me sign a document saying I would eat 1 lb. of dog sh!t out of the yard if I did not repay it within two weeks
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You're mother should be shot. No offense.
 

Jfur

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Originally posted by: fataIerror
Originally posted by: Jfur
an elaboration:

Deeko, don't actually go to court, but prepare documents as if you were. For example, did you sign something, is there anything in writing. Write down what you think you agreed on, make a list of payments you made (any by check?) and dates paid. because it's family, you may have no paper trail, but anything could help. Make a very clear list that is easy to follow and present this to your father as maturely as possible (I'm not saying you aren't but be as businesslike as you can). Present your evidence. If he still doesn't budge than there's not much to be done, unless you DO have actual docuements and are really willing to pursue it in court.

The reason I never try to borrow from family is because there are often complications. The one time I did I was 14 and I borrowed $5.00 from my mother. She made me sign a document saying I would eat 1 lb. of dog sh!t out of the yard if I did not repay it within two weeks
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You're mother should be shot. No offense.


You had better beleive I paid her back on time -- she was not joking!
:Q
 

gotsmack

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Try to retotal the payments and figures for your dad aigin, if he still doesn't want to see it ask why. Then I'd just give him back the $500 for the monitor and tell he he's not getting any more $ from you until he proves it.

and it would hhelp if tyou had a 3rd person there as well, like your mom
 

rgwalt

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First, try to sit down w/ your dad and go over the figures.

Second, what you are/aren't entitled to as compared to your brother is up to your family and is none of our business. I don't know anything about your family's history so I can't make a call as to whether or not they are treating you unfairly. That being said, it sounds like you are getting the shaft.

I'm glad that I don't have to worry about things like this as I'm an only child. That being said, there is still favoritism in my family. My grandmother (while she loves all of us) favors my aunt and her family more than mine. However, that is between my mom, my aunt, and my grandmother.

Business with family is always dicey. Good luck.

Ryan
 

slag

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This is the ABSOLUTE BEST part of this thread: "The only reason I'm getting that $500 is cuz they bought my brother a $500 computer when he went, so since I already have one, its only fair that I get something. "

FAIR? HAHAHAHAHAH... rofl.. ROFL!!!! Lets see, your brother didnt have a pc, you did, so he got one and now you are even.. That seems fair to me, not that it matters because we dont reason our way through life thinking we need to be FAIR about things.

Where is it written that just because your brother got something worth X amount of dollars that entitles you to the same thing? GD spoiled kids who think they are ENTITLED to something. What a crock.

I really find it humorous to think that since your brother was given something you automatically deduct that amount from what you owe. If I were your father, I'd laugh my ass off, tell you how it is, and watch you throw a tantrum.

 

Deeko

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I didn't automatically deduct that, jackass. That $500 is not a part of the $800 in question. My parents and I discussed months ago what we were going to do about a computer, and we came to the conclusion that they would buy my LCD monitor for me. Then this summer, they decided that instead of just giving me the $500, that they would deduct it from my debt and I would just pay for it. It was not me just subtracting $500 and then complaining that my dad doesn't agree. Please read the thread more thoroughly next time, to avoid such an erroneous post again. And tell me, why shouldn't I expect a 10th of what my brother got? I did just as well in school as him, I am going to a better school, and my parents are making more money now. Explain to me why it would be perfectly fine to spend $5000 on one child, and nothing on the next, and for no good reason. Oh, and did I forget to mention that they also loaned him $2000, much like my loan? What's the difference? He still hasn't paid anything, I have paid most of mine, he has had his loan for 2 years, I've had mine for 6 months. But yea, you're right, I'm such a greedy little boy. I guess greedy little boys spend $350 on their parents for christmas, too. But you are right, I'm such a selfish, greedy, horrible, horrible child.
 

Deeko

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I dug out all the receipts, and figured out the source of his error. I was in an accident in April, and then bought another car with insurance money, as my old car was totaled. In my dad's calculations of my debt, he added in my car insurance through December. However, when I got my new car, he added it again. The error is that we were only actually charged for the first 3 of the 9 months he has calculated, on the first car. So he charged me for July-December's insurance twice, hence the extra $800. I will show him my findings when i get home from work tonight.
 

txgixer

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Originally posted by: Deeko
I dug out all the receipts, and figured out the source of his error. I was in an accident in April, and then bought another car with insurance money, as my old car was totaled. In my dad's calculations of my debt, he added in my car insurance through December. However, when I got my new car, he added it again. The error is that we were only actually charged for the first 3 of the 9 months he has calculated, on the first car. So he charged me for July-December's insurance twice, hence the extra $800. I will show him my findings when i get home from work tonight.
Just a thought on the situation . . . .

Why don't you get your own insurance policy, and YOU be responsible for that bill tracking rather than your Dad?
 

PowerMac4Ever

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Originally posted by: slag
This is the ABSOLUTE BEST part of this thread: "The only reason I'm getting that $500 is cuz they bought my brother a $500 computer when he went, so since I already have one, its only fair that I get something. "

FAIR? HAHAHAHAHAH... rofl.. ROFL!!!! Lets see, your brother didnt have a pc, you did, so he got one and now you are even.. That seems fair to me, not that it matters because we dont reason our way through life thinking we need to be FAIR about things.

Where is it written that just because your brother got something worth X amount of dollars that entitles you to the same thing? GD spoiled kids who think they are ENTITLED to something. What a crock.

I really find it humorous to think that since your brother was given something you automatically deduct that amount from what you owe. If I were your father, I'd laugh my ass off, tell you how it is, and watch you throw a tantrum.

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BooneRebel

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Okay, let me get this straight. You loaned him $2000, then bought a car from him totalling $3000. Instead of paying $1000 to even the difference, you have paid a total of $3300 towards the car and insurance. That leaves you a grand total of: You're an idiot.

Time to cut the cord, junior.
 

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
and another $500 because they weere supposed to give me an LCD monitor for graduation but didn't, so they took it off my debt. $1800, so $1000 left. The only reason I'm getting that $500 is cuz they bought my brother a $500 computer when he went, so since I already have one, its only fair that I get something.

Jerboy, is that you?

Viper GTS

haha. Its funny cause its true.
 

slag

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My parents had 6 children. Do you think that just because they bought one of my 5 sisters a more expensive present than the rest of us that we "deserve" something of equal value? Hell no. We got what we got because the parents could afford it and because it had meaning to them (and us).

Today's kids are just too damn materialistic and want the world handed to them on a platter.

 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: Deeko
I dug out all the receipts, and figured out the source of his error. I was in an accident in April, and then bought another car with insurance money, as my old car was totaled. In my dad's calculations of my debt, he added in my car insurance through December. However, when I got my new car, he added it again. The error is that we were only actually charged for the first 3 of the 9 months he has calculated, on the first car. So he charged me for July-December's insurance twice, hence the extra $800. I will show him my findings when i get home from work tonight.

Sounds like an honest accounting error rather than an unadulterated attempt at screwing you.

BTW, txgixer, if his parents will allow him on their policy it is a good idea for him to remain there. The accounting issues are pretty minor compared to the costs of getting your own policy at his age.

Of course if he ever gets a ticket he'll want his own policy rather than dealing with the pressure they'll put on him.

Been there, done that, when I got my 72/55 I got my own policy when my parents' came up for renewal.

Viper GTS
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Deeko
Hey, I wouldn't be saying that about the monitor if they hadn't bought one for my brother. Why should he get money I don't? Oh wait, he does...they outright GAVE him $1000 towards his car, they GAVE him all of the money for college that his financial aid won't cover(I have to take out all the loans I can, they will pay for like half my books and thats it), they GAVE him the money to repair his car when it died(a good $900 repair too). I didn't get any of that money. I wouldn't be complaining if they hadn't given him so much, and me so little.

It's got to be Jerboy.

And JimmyEatWorld...

If they have an agreement, it's only reasonable that they stick to it. I'm not saying his dad is right on his figures necessarily, but expecting a child to fulfill their financial obligations is not "nickle and dim(ing)" them.

This whole situation just stresses the importance of keeping good records.

Viper GTS


It's probably against conventional wisdom and I'm certain there are plenty of parents who would disagree but I can tell you that from my perspective... with my children... that type of parenting is incorrect.

You teach a child nothing when you engender resentments... The kid will figure it out on his own (as far as being economically responsible) or he won't... A parent's role I believe is to love and support their children... not to be a loan officer...

I guess in my parenting I try to judge the correctness of an action by how much Love it carries... Actions that are not mde out of love are generally incorrect action....

Heh... I'm a hippy....heh....
 

Deeko

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Okay, let me get this straight. You loaned him $2000, then bought a car from him totalling $3000. Instead of paying $1000 to even the difference, you have paid a total of $3300 towards the car and insurance. That leaves you a grand total of: You're an idiot.
There are alot of other expenses with a car other than just the sticker price. Tax, insurance, titles, stuff like that adds up.

Today's kids are just too damn materialistic and want the world handed to them on a platter.
I love how you guys seem to think I am spoiled. I am the polar opposite of spoiled. My parents haven't bought me anything since I turned 14 and was legally allowed to get a job(and I did, I applied for a job the day after my birthday). I buy my own clothes, all of my possessions, my parents even make me pay my share of the electricity bill.

Sounds like an honest accounting error rather than an unadulterated attempt at screwing you.

BTW, txgixer, if his parents will allow him on their policy it is a good idea for him to remain there. The accounting issues are pretty minor compared to the costs of getting your own policy at his age.
I'm sure he wasn't trying to charge me extra, but he refused to believe he made a mistake and wouldn't even look at it. And as to me getting my own policy, for one thing I'm 17 so I don't think I can, and for another thing I looked into getting my own policy, and the quote I found on the internet was a good $500 more for 6 months than what I'm paying now. Ouch.
 

JoeKing

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maybe he's not your real dad.........maybe she's not your realy mom.........maybe your...........adopted:Q