Hitler 'tested small atom bomb'..

[IGBT]

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Karlsch also cites German eyewitnesses as reporting light so bright that for a second it was possible to read a newspaper, accompanied by a sudden blast of wind.

The eyewitnesses, who were interviewed on the subject by the East German authorities in the early 1960s, also said they suffered nose-bleeds, headaches, and nausea for days afterwards.

Karlsch also pointed to measurements carried out recently at the test site that found radioactive isotopes.

 

[iroast]

glad the war ended when it did heh. there were several new techs that weren't put to use. one of them was a new jet fighter (discovery channel)?

 

[Horus]

If this is true, it is HIGHLY (read: Holy FVCK) disturbing. If Hitler posessed the power of the atom...

Just imagine if they had been able to harness it earlier.

 

[So]

Seems to be dubious considering we'd never heard of that, and the Nazi Heavy water facilites destruction by the SAS.

Also, if they had it, I bet they'd have USED it ASAP.

 

[waggy]

yeah i thought this was known? i read a about a mission where some highly trained soldiers went in to germany and blew up the Hard water supply they needed. Also destroyed a plant where they were actually making it.

It was a very dangerous mission. many died on it. But they succeded. IF they didnt it was thought Hitler would have the bomb BEFORE the US did.

 

[silverpig]

I posted something like this in P&N a month or two back. He does have a lot of circumstantial evidence...

 

[K1052]

Bullsh!t.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: K1052
Bullsh!t.

 

[IGBT]

..worrysome to say the least. Can't help but wonder what's going on in Islamic oil revenue states..and the possibility that yet another Manhattan Project may be ongoing among terrorists groups funded by Islamic oil revenue.

 

[BustaBust]

Someone sense another video game coming?

You'd probably be some kind of soldier preventing the use of the bomb...............



Just thinking, but very interesting.

 

[Ausm]

Germany was making heavy water in Sweden but I don't believe they ever got to the point of testing it. Another factor was that Hitler was reluctant to trust weapons that were never proven which ultimately lead to his downfall.


Ausm

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Horus
If this is true, it is HIGHLY (read: Holy FVCK) disturbing. If Hitler posessed the power of the atom...

Just imagine if they had been able to harness it earlier.

It's no secret that he was close to developing a bomb, but all the evidence supports that he abandoned the program after continual bombing by the allies of the heavy water production facilities in scandanavia. He also had jet aircraft, VX nerve agents and a host of other technological advancements, he just didn't have the industrial capacity or the resources to bring them to battle by the time he developed them.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Ausm
Germany was making heavy water in Sweden but I don't believe they ever got to the point of testing it. Another factor was that Hitler was reluctant to trust weapons that were never proven which ultimately lead to his downfall.


Ausm

Norway, the Norsk Hydro plant in Vemork was producing a limited amount of heavy water before the war. The Nazis siezed and upgraded the plant.

Production was stalled due to allied commando raids and strategic bombing. All the heavy water produced ended up at the bottom of a lake.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Ausm
Germany was making heavy water in Sweden but I don't believe they ever got to the point of testing it. Another factor was that Hitler was reluctant to trust weapons that were never proven which ultimately lead to his downfall.


Ausm

Norway, the Norsk Hydro plant in Vemork was producing a limited amount of heavy water before the war. The Nazis siezed and upgraded the plant.

Production was stalled due to allied commando raids and strategic bombing. All the heavy water produced ended up at the bottom of a lake.

True but some did make it to Germany which Hitler loaded onto a submarine on a secret mission to Japan. It also had a dimantled ME-262 aboard but luckily the submarine was sunk before it could complete it's mission.

Ausm
Ausm

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Ausm
Germany was making heavy water in Sweden but I don't believe they ever got to the point of testing it. Another factor was that Hitler was reluctant to trust weapons that were never proven which ultimately lead to his downfall.


Ausm

Norway, the Norsk Hydro plant in Vemork was producing a limited amount of heavy water before the war. The Nazis siezed and upgraded the plant.

Production was stalled due to allied commando raids and strategic bombing. All the heavy water produced ended up at the bottom of a lake.

They tried finding the water a few years ago. Sonar and dive teams could not locate it. But then again it was one of those show's where they spent 2 days on the lake and not a full out effort.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Ausm
Germany was making heavy water in Sweden but I don't believe they ever got to the point of testing it. Another factor was that Hitler was reluctant to trust weapons that were never proven which ultimately lead to his downfall.


Ausm

Nuclear physics was "Jewish science." Not what Adolf wanted to invest in.

Also, Heisenberg was a brilliant scientist but a poor manager. There have even been suggestions that he deliberately slowed progress on the bomb because he didn't want Hitler to have it. Probably not true, but Germany was still nowhere near building a bomb. Heisenberg wasn't even sure if it was possible - his conversations after being captured were all taped and he apparently thought the announcement of the Hiroshima bomb was a propaganda hoax.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Ausm
Germany was making heavy water in Sweden but I don't believe they ever got to the point of testing it. Another factor was that Hitler was reluctant to trust weapons that were never proven which ultimately lead to his downfall.


Ausm

Norway, the Norsk Hydro plant in Vemork was producing a limited amount of heavy water before the war. The Nazis siezed and upgraded the plant.

Production was stalled due to allied commando raids and strategic bombing. All the heavy water produced ended up at the bottom of a lake.

They tried finding the water a few years ago. Sonar and dive teams could not locate it. But then again it was one of those show's where they spent 2 days on the lake and not a full out effort.

I believe they sunk it in the deepest part of the lake to thwart any attempts of the nazi's recovering it.

Ausm

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: waggy
yeah i thought this was known? i read a about a mission where some highly trained soldiers went in to germany and blew up the Hard water supply they needed. Also destroyed a plant where they were actually making it.

It was a very dangerous mission. many died on it. But they succeded. IF they didnt it was thought Hitler would have the bomb BEFORE the US did.

It was in Norway.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: Ausm
Germany was making heavy water in Sweden but I don't believe they ever got to the point of testing it. Another factor was that Hitler was reluctant to trust weapons that were never proven which ultimately lead to his downfall.


Ausm

NORWAY!

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Ausm
Germany was making heavy water in Sweden but I don't believe they ever got to the point of testing it. Another factor was that Hitler was reluctant to trust weapons that were never proven which ultimately lead to his downfall.


Ausm

Norway, the Norsk Hydro plant in Vemork was producing a limited amount of heavy water before the war. The Nazis siezed and upgraded the plant.

Production was stalled due to allied commando raids and strategic bombing. All the heavy water produced ended up at the bottom of a lake.

They tried finding the water a few years ago. Sonar and dive teams could not locate it. But then again it was one of those show's where they spent 2 days on the lake and not a full out effort.

I believe they sunk it in the deepest part of the lake to thwart any attempts of the nazi's recovering it.

Ausm

yeah thats what they said.

But the search was done like 5 years ago or so (the show was on Discover like 3 years ago) and they still didn't find it.

Though again it was a quick 2 day search with limited equipment. They aslo had a thing about the teams that were sent to destroy the factory's that made the hard water and other equipment.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: Ausm
Germany was making heavy water in Sweden but I don't believe they ever got to the point of testing it. Another factor was that Hitler was reluctant to trust weapons that were never proven which ultimately lead to his downfall.


Ausm

Nuclear physics was "Jewish science." Not what Adolf wanted to invest in.

Also, Heisenberg was a brilliant scientist but a poor manager. There have even been suggestions that he deliberately slowed progress on the bomb because he didn't want Hitler to have it. Probably not true, but Germany was still nowhere near building a bomb. Heisenberg wasn't even sure if it was possible - his conversations after being captured were all taped and he apparently thought the announcement of the Hiroshima bomb was a propaganda hoax.

I think if Hitler would have concentrated efforts in the production of ME-262's the allies would have alot tougher time gaining air superiority.

Ausm

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser

Originally posted by: Ausm
Germany was making heavy water in Sweden but I don't believe they ever got to the point of testing it. Another factor was that Hitler was reluctant to trust weapons that were never proven which ultimately lead to his downfall.


Ausm

NORWAY!

My Bad....but they are so close together


Ausm

 

[spacejamz]

Imagine what would have happened if those guys from Battlestar Galactica helped them out when they went back in time to Nazi Germany during WWII??

(I think I just showed my age on that one)...

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: Ausm
Germany was making heavy water in Sweden but I don't believe they ever got to the point of testing it. Another factor was that Hitler was reluctant to trust weapons that were never proven which ultimately lead to his downfall.


Ausm

Nuclear physics was "Jewish science." Not what Adolf wanted to invest in.

Also, Heisenberg was a brilliant scientist but a poor manager. There have even been suggestions that he deliberately slowed progress on the bomb because he didn't want Hitler to have it. Probably not true, but Germany was still nowhere near building a bomb. Heisenberg wasn't even sure if it was possible - his conversations after being captured were all taped and he apparently thought the announcement of the Hiroshima bomb was a propaganda hoax.

I think if Hitler would have concentrated efforts in the production of ME-262's the allies would have alot tougher time gaining air superiority.

Ausm

The same is true of several other technologies they had.

The type XXI "Elekto" boats also should have gotten priority instead of the continuting production of type VII and type IX boats.

Too little too late, thankfully.

 

[feelingshorter]

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: K1052
Bullsh!t.

If you know your history, NOT BULLSHIT AT ALL How many here know that when the war ended, and all Germans surrendered that one of the U boats was delivering uranium isotopes to Japan? Hitler did not have a way to bomb American cities, where as the Japanese did with their navy. Also a japanese "super submarine" was discovered, basicaly it was a huge submarine that carried three bomber class airplanes and parts to build a 4th one with its own hanger and runway....Yea thats one huge submarine. But its been known that Nazi scientists were the ones who invented the atomic theories, so it wouldnt surprise me that the nazis made an atomic bomb knowning that one of the U boats (235) did carry purified uranium to Japan but was taken by the USA after unconditional surrender. There were also two Japs on that same U Boat that commited suicide so i do not know what came about but its rumored that the uranium used on Nagasaki (which ever came first, or Hiroshima) was partly from the German U Boat. I disagree that the submarine was sunk, i remember that it surrendered when given the order to when Germany surrendered.