Hispanic growth extends eastward

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Alternate headline: "Racists in new areas given opportunity to shine"

Alternate headline: "Illegally imported third world values become the majority, Americans wonder where their freedoms have gone".

If you want to see the likes of Chavez rule this nation, keep it up. There will be such a person here who came from there. These people came here for our wealth, not to adopt our values or our culture. They supplant both.

So you'd rather have another Hitler than a Chavez?

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: senseamp
Sounds like a good thing if these guys have kids who grow up and vote Democrat. Am I missing something?

I think the demographic shift in this nation is a direct result of our out of control immigration and our complete lack of immigration enforcement.

Let?s see from today?s headlines:

Exhibit A

Exhibit B

Exhibit C

How many more people on our soil are going to be raped and killed before we control our immigration and impress upon everyone that unless you uphold American laws/ideals you are not welcome here?

MILWAUKIE, Ore. - Two suspects charged with aggravated murder in the killing of a Texas teen admitted they came to the United States illegally.

Police said 15-year-old Dani Countryman was trying to fight off Alejandro Rivera Gamboa and his cousin, 23-year-old cousin Gilberto Javier Rivera Gamboa when they strangled her at a Milwaukie apartment in late July.

NEWARK, N.J. -- An illegal immigrant accused in the execution-style deaths of three students pleaded not guilty to the crimes Friday.

Jose Carranza, 28, of Peru, surrendered directly to Newark, N.J., Mayor Cory Booker Thursday, and was arraigned Friday morning.

LOS ANGELES - Nine Guatemalans were indicted for their roles in an alleged sex trafficking ring that lured young women to the United States with promises of good jobs and then forced them into prostitution, according to federal court records.

Illegals don't kill people. People kill people.

 

[JeepinEd]

Originally posted by: glutenberg


Asians have help from Asian speaking teachers. Most of my friends from Taiwan and China all have had help with translation. Add on the fact that in Taiwan and China, English is taught or encouraged to be learned as a second language so the background Asian immigrants have versus Hispanic immigrants have may be different. Tack on the fact that Taiwan is fairly modernized and the schooling is comparable to the US that the backbone of education is already there. Now, if you look at immigrants from Western China or immigrants from poorer portions of China, you will notice that they also come to the US without any ability to speak English. If they are younger, they will try to learn but the older generation are generally here to earn money and convert it back RMB so that they can retire in China. Not all people want to integrate and your Hispanic example isn't really different than any other culture.

It's nice to believe that Asians are some sort of perfect immigrant group but they have their fair share of problems. Asians are essentially the new Jews. A group of people used by the media as a "shining" example of how good immigrants integrate and thrive but it's just a tactic used to berate other minority classes. It not only attempts to diminish the value of another group but it creates tension between those minority classes. It's taken a long time for the Asian community to develop relations with the African American community because of all this stereotypical nonsense. Just one look at immigrants from poorer parts of Asia and you'll notice that it's not all sunshine and roses.

Eskimopy has already listed that the influx and integration rate hasn't been significantly different from any other group and you have to realize that each influx of immigrants goes through essentially the same ostracism during the initial influx. People can't handle change. People are irrational beings. People would be most happy living in their bubble of security but that's not how progress is made. Xenophobia is pretty much the norm and breaking that fear is essential for the melting pot ideal to function.

You have some valid points. I understand that within any ethnic group, there will be problems. The U.S. has set quotas for the amount of people allowed to legally enter this country. These quotas ensure a good diversity of immigrants. The influx rate of illegal immigrants from Central America has increased and as I pointed out, so has their demeanor. There are entire cities whose demographics have changed to primarily Hispanic. That alone is not a bad thing, but a large portion of them come here with the mentality that the Southwest belongs to them. That we have to change our culture to suit them. This is where you get resentment. When I came to the U.S., my family's first priority was to learn English. We demanded nothing more than freedom. We became Americans.

As far as education, I can't tell you how many times I have been called a racist for suggesting that Hispanics need to change their attitude towards higher education. Having been born in Central America, I am very familiar with their languid attitude towards education. My wife, who volunteers at my son's school sees this on a daily basis. I want them to do better. A well educated Hispanic community would be much better off than one filled with gardeners and burger flippers.

 

[xochi]

Dora the Exlporer and Diego are taking over! Run for the Hills!!!

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: JeepinEd

Originally posted by: glutenberg


Asians have help from Asian speaking teachers. Most of my friends from Taiwan and China all have had help with translation. Add on the fact that in Taiwan and China, English is taught or encouraged to be learned as a second language so the background Asian immigrants have versus Hispanic immigrants have may be different. Tack on the fact that Taiwan is fairly modernized and the schooling is comparable to the US that the backbone of education is already there. Now, if you look at immigrants from Western China or immigrants from poorer portions of China, you will notice that they also come to the US without any ability to speak English. If they are younger, they will try to learn but the older generation are generally here to earn money and convert it back RMB so that they can retire in China. Not all people want to integrate and your Hispanic example isn't really different than any other culture.

It's nice to believe that Asians are some sort of perfect immigrant group but they have their fair share of problems. Asians are essentially the new Jews. A group of people used by the media as a "shining" example of how good immigrants integrate and thrive but it's just a tactic used to berate other minority classes. It not only attempts to diminish the value of another group but it creates tension between those minority classes. It's taken a long time for the Asian community to develop relations with the African American community because of all this stereotypical nonsense. Just one look at immigrants from poorer parts of Asia and you'll notice that it's not all sunshine and roses.

Eskimopy has already listed that the influx and integration rate hasn't been significantly different from any other group and you have to realize that each influx of immigrants goes through essentially the same ostracism during the initial influx. People can't handle change. People are irrational beings. People would be most happy living in their bubble of security but that's not how progress is made. Xenophobia is pretty much the norm and breaking that fear is essential for the melting pot ideal to function.

You have some valid points. I understand that within any ethnic group, there will be problems. The U.S. has set quotas for the amount of people allowed to legally enter this country. These quotas ensure a good diversity of immigrants. The influx rate of illegal immigrants from Central America has increased and as I pointed out, so has their demeanor. There are entire cities whose demographics have changed to primarily Hispanic. That alone is not a bad thing, but a large portion of them come here with the mentality that the Southwest belongs to them. That we have to change our culture to suit them. This is where you get resentment. When I came to the U.S., my family's first priority was to learn English. We demanded nothing more than freedom. We became Americans.

As far as education, I can't tell you how many times I have been called a racist for suggesting that Hispanics need to change their attitude towards higher education. Having been born in Central America, I am very familiar with their languid attitude towards education. My wife, who volunteers at my son's school sees this on a daily basis. I want them to do better. A well educated Hispanic community would be much better off than one filled with gardeners and burger flippers.

Sadly, education is not always the focus of certain countries and even more sad is that a good majority of the world is unable to access higher learning to begin with. Got to appreciate everyday the strong educational values my family instilled on me and the US for having the infrastructure to support those goals.

Edit: As an aside, my parents moved here from Taiwan in their graduate school years but they didn't really come to America to be Americans. They came to America as Chinese who were willing to learn a language because they understood that success in the US required a level of integration. Even after being here for so many years, I would still say they hold Chinese ideals more closely than American. Me being a first generation native Chinese-American hold a fairly mixed amount of values. It seems it takes a few generations for people to really integrate and it's really no surprise that Hispanics are following the norm of nearly all other ethnic groups that have moved in mass to the US in the past. There's a good reason why there are a multitude of ethnic centers in every metro. Little Italy, Korean Town, Little Tokyo, Chinatown, Little Ethiopia, etc are just some of the ones I can list off the top of my head. Just one look in these places and you'll notice that they're still not fully integrated and they've been around for how long?

 

[StageLeft]

You Americans who condone and excuse the illegal trespass into your country by people who disproportionately represent the bottom tiers of society (low wealth, higher crime, lower education, etc.) and pump money they've illegally made here down south, propping up the Mexican economy with their cash being one of the major pillars of its yearly product should be ashamed of yourselves. But you're not because you're ignorant and intellectually lazy.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
You Americans who condone and excuse the illegal trespass into your country by people who disproportionately represent the bottom tiers of society (low wealth, higher crime, lower education, etc.) and pump money they've illegally made here down south, propping up the Mexican economy with their cash being one of the major pillars of its yearly product should be ashamed of yourselves. But you're not because you're ignorant and intellectually lazy.

Many of the posters in this thread do not support illegal immigration but the article posted was not specifically about illegal immigration, in fact, it seems to be intolerance of Hispanic immigration whether legal or not. That's the crux of the argument here.

 

[magomago]

I'm going to side with those who think this is completely overblown.


----"Ph34r the 113e941" is retarded ----


A poster brought up the great point of how we use Asians as this stereotypical example of the perfect group that assimilates and the reality is FAR from it - even in college I've seen people studying [/i] engineering[/i] can't speak English, or speak it very poorly, and have friends and others helping in translation.

We will watch the immigrant's children who are born here learn to be able to speak English and Spanish. And most likely a generation aftewards - their children will speak English and know the names of foods in Spanish as well as some foul language.

We need to realisitically LOOK at history and see that every group has been picked on with the EXACT same B.S. andin this point the situation is the same.
The difference is that those groups came over the SEA so once they were here it was much harder to preserve everything before. But with Mexico ~ their proximity next to us naturally causes a transfer (as well as in the other direction!) of language and even some culture...and that is why we don't call a Quesadilla a "Cheese Tortilla". Its easier for mexicans to interact with their country - hell phone cards to Mexico are usually one of the cheapest! When you allow people and ideas to spread - things will MIX period. Unless you want to pull an Israel and physically isolate two peoples with a barrier, our close proximity will lead to mixing in all forms.

And who knows - maybe the vernacular will (although I would say already does!) include more Spanish, especially in the states that border Mexico
And Mexicans ARE integrating - while driving to work today I heard a popular song...how did it go? "Like A Cholo - elbows out, side to side". Of course there is some spanish in it, but its predominatingly in English (and its in Stupid as well as its shi++y music, but most pop is anyways so this isn't anything new )

The real issue is that we DO favor illegals over people who come legally. If we made entering the USA a quick, painless, and EASY process that doesn't draw out as long as it currently is (I know people who've been waiting for YEARS to get in), we would not have these issues with illegals because there would be less incentive for them to come over illegally than legally.

What I find funny is that some expect this idea of "assimilation" as one of complete acceptance of the culture here. I maybe assimilated , but I sure as hell will ensure that any children I have can speak Arabic as well as English (AND a third language - being internationally capable is gonig to be a key in the future and its already gives one an edge today) - and because I know english will be around them everywhere (especially school) I'm going to avoid speaking English to them within our household in order to maintain and preserve Arabic. They will learn to read and write it through many mechanism that allow this like "Arabic School" - they may not be able to speak on philosophy of Life in Arabic (I can't as well!) but to have the ability to engage in conversational is a goal and I'll be damned if anyone wants to even challange the idea that I'm trying to prevent assimilation.

As for Mexicans not wanting to study - look at our own children before we try to pin it on them. We ourselves have a problem with motivating children as no one wants to be a "geek" or "dork" when not studying, skipping classes, reading cliffnotes of books in place of of the actual novel, plagarizing what you find on the internet, disrupting class and cussing at the teacher are concerned (and I can go on and on and on). I can definitely look at my Mexican peers studying in college and provide ancedotal evidence to counter other acedotal accusations of the poor studying habits of Mexican Children.

edit: just for kicks - I realized even now I've seen plenty of people say "you are going to study on the WEEEKEND? What? Go out and party and have fun - do that stuff 'later' " where later usually means "at the last second, very shittily, and usually just enough to pass"...and this COLLEGE my friends. Any argument of Mexicans not having a culture geared for pushing education is also one we should be having for our own American culture and in accepting that from them NOTHING changes...except maybe we can also speak Spanish so we WOULD be learning something 😀

 

[Rio Rebel]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
You Americans who condone and excuse the illegal trespass into your country by people who disproportionately represent the bottom tiers of society (low wealth, higher crime, lower education, etc.) and pump money they've illegally made here down south, propping up the Mexican economy with their cash being one of the major pillars of its yearly product should be ashamed of yourselves. But you're not because you're ignorant and intellectually lazy.

Skoorb, disagreeing with you makes me anything but ashamed of myself.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

...what's wrong with Hispanics?

 

[babylon5]

If this is all about race, the backlash we seen would have been on for a long time now. Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners (and many other countries/places) have been Legally immigrating to USA for a long time, but there was as major backlash as what's going on now. Problem is Illegal Immigration.

Right now, mostly Hispanics dont' wait in line, cut in front of people applied to immigrate to USA. Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners (and many other countries/places) can't just walk to USA if they want to. They are separated by ocean. If they want to make a break for USA, at least they need to get and apply VISA at US embassy to even get on a plane to come inside USA. Therefore, they aren't coming in masses so visible like Hispanics can, walking thru Mexican/US Border.

If America REALLY don't like people of color, i.e. Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners, there wouldn't be immigration, at all. Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners have been immigrating to USA for years, and Americans never objected to them.

However, we do live in politically correct era, and people use fear tactic such as accusing racism to try to shut out logically argument. Race card is a weapon, and pro-illegals get wet using it.

 

[Rio Rebel]

Originally posted by: babylon5
If this is all about race, the backlash we seen would have been on for a long time now. Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners (and many other countries/places) have been Legally immigrating to USA for a long time, but there was as major backlash as what's going on now. Problem is Illegal Immigration.

Right now, mostly Hispanics dont' wait in line, cut in front of people applied to immigrate to USA. Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners (and many other countries/places) can't just walk to USA if they want to. They are separated by ocean. If they want to make a break for USA, at least they need to get and apply VISA at US embassy to even get on a plane to come inside USA. Therefore, they aren't coming in masses so visible like Hispanics can, walking thru Mexican/US Border.

If America REALLY don't like people of color, i.e. Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners, there wouldn't be immigration, at all. Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners have been immigrating to USA for years, and Americans never objected to them.

However, we do live in politically correct era, and people use fear tactic such as accusing racism to try to shut out logically argument. Race card is a weapon, and pro-illegals get wet using it.

First and foremost, while "racism" may sometimes be used as a weapon, it is much more frequent that the word "illegal" is used to make blatant anti-Hispanic sentiments more acceptable to the debate.

And your argument simply flies in the face of all US history. This isn't the first time there has been uproar - we have seen uproar EVERY TIME. The Italians, Chinese, Irish, and every single ethnic group other than African has seen the uproar. (I only exclude African because they were forced here.)

This is nothing new. It is nothing particular to Mexicans or Hispanics, and in the overwhelming majority of these debates, it has nothing to do with legality. It has to do with bigotry and fear against another ethnic group, and that is right in line with our history.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Rio Rebel

Originally posted by: babylon5
If this is all about race, the backlash we seen would have been on for a long time now. Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners (and many other countries/places) have been Legally immigrating to USA for a long time, but there was as major backlash as what's going on now. Problem is Illegal Immigration.

Right now, mostly Hispanics dont' wait in line, cut in front of people applied to immigrate to USA. Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners (and many other countries/places) can't just walk to USA if they want to. They are separated by ocean. If they want to make a break for USA, at least they need to get and apply VISA at US embassy to even get on a plane to come inside USA. Therefore, they aren't coming in masses so visible like Hispanics can, walking thru Mexican/US Border.

If America REALLY don't like people of color, i.e. Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners, there wouldn't be immigration, at all. Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners have been immigrating to USA for years, and Americans never objected to them.

However, we do live in politically correct era, and people use fear tactic such as accusing racism to try to shut out logically argument. Race card is a weapon, and pro-illegals get wet using it.

First and foremost, while "racism" may sometimes be used as a weapon, it is much more frequent that the word "illegal" is used to make blatant anti-Hispanic sentiments more acceptable to the debate.

And your argument simply flies in the face of all US history. This isn't the first time there has been uproar - we have seen uproar EVERY TIME. The Italians, Chinese, Irish, and every single ethnic group other than African has seen the uproar. (I only exclude African because they were forced here.)

This is nothing new. It is nothing particular to Mexicans or Hispanics, and in the overwhelming majority of these debates, it has nothing to do with legality. It has to do with bigotry and fear against another ethnic group, and that is right in line with our history.

You speak of debate, yet you didn't respond to my query, so I'll repeat it.

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Rio Rebel

How many more people on our soil are going to be raped and killed before we control our immigration and impress upon everyone that unless you uphold American laws/ideals you are not welcome here?

Give us your poor, your tired, your hungry...

The whole world is full of tired and hungry people wanting, even standing in line to come here. Why should we just take in any hispanic who can walk across the border?

I don't have any problem with bringing in any immigrants, I'd even go so far as to say that we should legally allow a disproportionatly larger quota of Mexicans since they our our neighbors, but the argument that Mexicans can just come here illegally and then expect to be legalized makes no sense.... at least not to me??

 

[Rio Rebel]

I didn't answer your question, because I wasn't quoting the Statue of Liberty as a blanket endorsement of open immigration. I was quoting it to demonstrate the irony of Jaskalas associating all Hispanics with rape and murder, and talking about defending our ideals from them.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
I didn't answer your question, because I wasn't quoting the Statue of Liberty as a blanket endorsement of open immigration. I was quoting it to demonstrate the irony of Jaskalas associating all Hispanics with rape and murder, and talking about defending our ideals from them.

Fair enough, but I'm still curious about how you feel about illegal immigration?

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: PieIsAwesome
...what's wrong with Hispanics?

dark skin is like kryptonite to a redneck.

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: senseamp
Sounds like a good thing if these guys have kids who grow up and vote Democrat. Am I missing something?

I think the demographic shift in this nation is a direct result of our out of control immigration and our complete lack of immigration enforcement.

Let?s see from today?s headlines:

Exhibit A

Exhibit B

Exhibit C

How many more people on our soil are going to be raped and killed before we control our immigration and impress upon everyone that unless you uphold American laws/ideals you are not welcome here?

MILWAUKIE, Ore. - Two suspects charged with aggravated murder in the killing of a Texas teen admitted they came to the United States illegally.

Police said 15-year-old Dani Countryman was trying to fight off Alejandro Rivera Gamboa and his cousin, 23-year-old cousin Gilberto Javier Rivera Gamboa when they strangled her at a Milwaukie apartment in late July.

NEWARK, N.J. -- An illegal immigrant accused in the execution-style deaths of three students pleaded not guilty to the crimes Friday.

Jose Carranza, 28, of Peru, surrendered directly to Newark, N.J., Mayor Cory Booker Thursday, and was arraigned Friday morning.

LOS ANGELES - Nine Guatemalans were indicted for their roles in an alleged sex trafficking ring that lured young women to the United States with promises of good jobs and then forced them into prostitution, according to federal court records.

Spare us your tear jerker stories. I can find millions of headlines that say people in this country are just as bad or worse.

Back your opinions up with statistics which may actually mean something.

 

[Rio Rebel]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
I didn't answer your question, because I wasn't quoting the Statue of Liberty as a blanket endorsement of open immigration. I was quoting it to demonstrate the irony of Jaskalas associating all Hispanics with rape and murder, and talking about defending our ideals from them.

Fair enough, but I'm still curious about how you feel about illegal immigration?

I wish we could have open borders, but I realize that it simply isn't practical. I support enforcement of immigration law, but I feel sad for people who came here trying to make a better life for themselves and their families. I will never understand the hatred that some have for illegal immigrants.

But ultimately, I know we have to enforce borders and I am hopeful that we can come up with a practical solution to our current problem.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: PieIsAwesome
...what's wrong with Hispanics?

dark skin is like kryptonite to a redneck.

So the light-skinned hispanics are okay then? 😀

 

[Rio Rebel]

Originally posted by: PieIsAwesome

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: PieIsAwesome
...what's wrong with Hispanics?

dark skin is like kryptonite to a redneck.

So the light-skinned hispanics are okay then? 😀

If everyone would visit Brazil once in their lives, we would all understand that God clearly meant for us all to be together. 🙂

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: glutenberg
Many of the posters in this thread do not support illegal immigration but the article posted was not specifically about illegal immigration, in fact, it seems to be intolerance of Hispanic immigration whether legal or not. That's the crux of the argument here.

No it is not intolerance or racism that drives this, it is simply self preservation and there is nothing wrong with it.

Look at it this way;

If the shoe were on the other foot and 10?s of millions of White, Black, Asians, Arab Americans poured in to Mexico taking jobs, gorged on free Mexican government services, did not pay taxes, held protests, ignored Mexican laws, demanded rights and citizenship. Got White, Black, Asians, Arabs elected to office whom bent over backwards just for White, Black, Asians, Arabs. Have special organizations that would sue on their behalf anytime the Mexican governments try to make laws that would crack down on them. All the while the Mexican people knowing if they are not stopped they will soon be strong enough in number to take complete control of the country and will.

Don?t you think the Mexican people would be foaming at the mouth upset?

Would you call them racists or intolerant for being upset?

Of course not they would have every right to be mad and damn well should be. They would see their country slowly being taken away from them and it would be self preservation driving them to do something about it not intolerance or racism.

This is what American are facing and we have every right to be pissed any American who isn?t pissed about it should be ashamed to call himself an American

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: glutenberg
Many of the posters in this thread do not support illegal immigration but the article posted was not specifically about illegal immigration, in fact, it seems to be intolerance of Hispanic immigration whether legal or not. That's the crux of the argument here.

No it is not intolerance or racism that drives this, it is simply self preservation and there is nothing wrong with it.

Look at it this way;

If the shoe were on the other foot and 10?s of millions of White, Black, Asians, Arab Americans poured in to Mexico taking jobs, gorged on free Mexican government services, did not pay taxes, held protests, ignored Mexican laws, demanded rights and citizenship. Got White, Black, Asians, Arabs elected to office whom bent over backwards just for White, Black, Asians, Arabs. Have special organizations that would sue on their behalf anytime the Mexican governments try to make laws that would crack down on them. All the while the Mexican people knowing if they are not stopped they will soon be strong enough in number to take complete control of the country and will.

Don?t you think the Mexican people would be foaming at the mouth upset?

Would you call them racists or intolerant for being upset?

Of course not they would have every right to be mad and damn well should be. They would see their country slowly being taken away from them and it would be self preservation driving them to do something about it not intolerance or racism.

This is what American are facing and we have every right to be pissed any American who isn?t pissed about it should be ashamed to call himself an American

The US is far from ever being taken over by Hispanics. What's intolerant is their grouping of all Hispanics, whether legal or not, as deviants, as some undesirable bottom feeding race that should be treated as miscreants. That's why people are debating the article because they do not mention if the influx of Hispanics into the East are legal or illegal. If they are illegal, then they have an argument but because they don't mention it, it makes the people there seem bigoted. It's the same mentality as when a single minority moves into a predominantly single race area (I don't want to say white as it applies to all groupings of races).

 

[Socio]

The US is much closer than you think of being taken over;

Nation's minority numbers top 100M

Hispanics are fanning out to more states across the nation, creating a sharp contrast between their predominantly young numbers and those of an aging white society, according to Census population estimates out Thursday.

The age gap is widening as every state experienced a growth in Hispanics since 2000.

Hispanics remain the largest minority group at 44.3 million and accounted for almost half the nation's growth of 2.9 million from July 1, 2005, to July 1, 2006. As Hispanics settle in areas where whites are aging and fewer are being born, they're transforming classrooms, workplaces and entire communities.

The non-Hispanic white school-age population dropped 4% since 2000, while the number of Hispanic school-age kids surged 21%. The white under-15 population declined in all but nine states since 2000.

"The melting pot in America is really bubbling at the younger age," says William Frey, demographer at the Brookings Institution. In Nevada, for example, one in four residents was Hispanic in 2006, compared with one in five in 2000. It had the fastest-growing population under age 15, and Hispanic youths accounted for 67% of those gains.

"The pronounced differences between Hispanic populations and non-Hispanic populations agewise sets the stage in coming decades for very different political agendas," says Peter Morrison, demographer at the RAND Corp. "One population is going to form the core of the working age population by all indications. The other one is aging. (There are) two very different sets of economic interests: People who want health care vs. people who want jobs."

These numbers don?t even count the illegal Hispanics.

I can?t find the link right now but; You add the 3.6 growth rate for Hispanic?s, plus the continued influx of Hispanics by the millions, the 1.1 growth rate for Black and I believe 1.3 for White, don?t remember Asian but it is very low as well, then factor in the fact that baby boomers about 77 million a majority of which are white will be gone in 30 to 40 years which will cut the numbers of whites in the US considerably. So very easily by 2050 Whites will be a minority in the US and Hispanics will be the new majority race.

If you think that a Hispanic controlled government is a good thing then look from Mexico all the way down to the freaking Strait of Magellan to get your answer. It will also give you the answer to why Whites, Black, Asian, Arabs and the other non-Hispanics Americans are afraid and rightfully so.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Socio

So very easily by 2050 Whites will be a minority in the US and Hispanics will be the new majority race.

If you think that a Hispanic controlled government is a good thing then look from Mexico all the way down to the freaking Strait of Magellan to get your answer. It will also give you the answer to why Whites, Black, Asian, Arabs and the other non-Hispanics Americans are afraid and rightfully so.

So how are you not a racist again?

I seriously considered writing you something here on how your last post was idiotic. (and it most certainly was) Then I realized I've done that probably a dozen times or more already and you're still spewing out crap like this.

 

[JeepinEd]

Originally posted by: Socio
The US is much closer than you think of being taken over;

Nation's minority numbers top 100M

Hispanics are fanning out to more states across the nation, creating a sharp contrast between their predominantly young numbers and those of an aging white society, according to Census population estimates out Thursday.

The age gap is widening as every state experienced a growth in Hispanics since 2000.

Hispanics remain the largest minority group at 44.3 million and accounted for almost half the nation's growth of 2.9 million from July 1, 2005, to July 1, 2006. As Hispanics settle in areas where whites are aging and fewer are being born, they're transforming classrooms, workplaces and entire communities.

The non-Hispanic white school-age population dropped 4% since 2000, while the number of Hispanic school-age kids surged 21%. The white under-15 population declined in all but nine states since 2000.

"The melting pot in America is really bubbling at the younger age," says William Frey, demographer at the Brookings Institution. In Nevada, for example, one in four residents was Hispanic in 2006, compared with one in five in 2000. It had the fastest-growing population under age 15, and Hispanic youths accounted for 67% of those gains.

"The pronounced differences between Hispanic populations and non-Hispanic populations agewise sets the stage in coming decades for very different political agendas," says Peter Morrison, demographer at the RAND Corp. "One population is going to form the core of the working age population by all indications. The other one is aging. (There are) two very different sets of economic interests: People who want health care vs. people who want jobs."

These numbers don?t even count the illegal Hispanics.

I can?t find the link right now but; You add the 3.6 growth rate for Hispanic?s, plus the continued influx of Hispanics by the millions, the 1.1 growth rate for Black and I believe 1.3 for White, don?t remember Asian but it is very low as well, then factor in the fact that baby boomers about 77 million a majority of which are white will be gone in 30 to 40 years which will cut the numbers of whites in the US considerably. So very easily by 2050 Whites will be a minority in the US and Hispanics will be the new majority race.

If you think that a Hispanic controlled government is a good thing then look from Mexico all the way down to the freaking Strait of Magellan to get your answer. It will also give you the answer to why Whites, Black, Asian, Arabs and the other non-Hispanics Americans are afraid and rightfully so.

Right or wrong, when one race begins to dominate the population and changes it's environment to resemble that of their country of origin, there will be resentment.

I think what we are witnessing right now is a backlash against all the illegal immigration this country is seeing coming over the border. Not only are these people coming in illegally, but they DEMAND to be made legal, they DEMAND that we give them social services and if you don't agree with them you are labeled as a racist.