Hillary supports DC to be 51st state

[BurnItDwn]

Lets make Puerto Rico a state. They need it a hell of a lot more than DC.

 

[brycejones]

Lets make Puerto Rico a state. They need it a hell of a lot more than DC.

But then congress wouldn't be able to directly screw them over. Where is the fun in that?

 

[Phynaz]

That's a non-sequiter

How's that?

That's exactly why it's written in the Constitution.

Put the federal government in a state and it is then at the mercy of the lawmakers in that state.

 

[ElFenix]

Put the federal government in a state and it is then at the mercy of the lawmakers in that state.

McCulloch v. Maryland, 17 U.S. 316 (1819)

 

[Brainonska511]

Do you really want the federal government beholden to state laws?

That's really a nonissue. The Federal Government already operates offices and property in all 50 states. They are hardly beholden to state laws. But if that did really worry you, you could always split D.C. in such a way that the there is only a non-residential "Capital Area" for major federal holdings.

Or you could incorporate D.C.'s federal representation into Maryland, as it was initially - redraw a few Maryland congressional districts to represent the people of D.C. at the federal level, while overall jurisdictional issues remain as they currently stand.

 

[werepossum]

Good for her. It's about time that the welfare state was an actual place.

 

[Jhhnn]

Good for her. It's about time that the welfare state was an actual place.

It already is-

http://politicalblindspot.com/the-food-stamp-capital-of-the-u-s-is-white-and-republican/

 

[glenn1]

That's really a nonissue. The Federal Government already operates offices and property in all 50 states. They are hardly beholden to state laws. But if that did really worry you, you could always split D.C. in such a way that the there is only a non-residential "Capital Area" for major federal holdings.

Or you could incorporate D.C.'s federal representation into Maryland, as it was initially - redraw a few Maryland congressional districts to represent the people of D.C. at the federal level, while overall jurisdictional issues remain as they currently stand.

That plan works also. I know the extra Senate seats are the big prize they want but getting 10 or so new House seats under the Maryland delegation seems like a good compromise.

 

[brycejones]

That plan works also. I know the extra Senate seats are the big prize they want but getting 10 or so new House seats under the Maryland delegation seems like a good compromise.

Its more like 1 or 2 house seats. 4M people don't live in DC.

 

[IronWing]

Lets make Puerto Rico a state. They need it a hell of a lot more than DC.

The Puerto Ricans don't want it. In the last referendum, they chose the status quo.

 

[Sunburn74]

Liberals will do anything to win the White House, including handing out equal representation like god damn candy.

I guess some people are more equal than other people is what you're arguing?

That's a stupid argument. States aren't carved out by area alone.

Why do we have states at all actually? What tangible benefit are we actually getting from 50 different states as opposed to say no states or just a few states total (like 5 or 7)?

 

[Matthiasa]

The Puerto Ricans don't want it. In the last referendum, they chose the status quo.

Not exactly... Congress just doesn't want to allow it.

 

[pcgeek11]

I think the Constitution is correct and that DC should not be given statehood. The reasons are still valid. IMO the District of Columbia was never intended to be an area of residence. The people that are living there chose to do so with the constitutional limits in place.

It is obvious why Hillary wants DC to be a state. One of the few things in DC that is transparent.

 

[JEDI]

Liberals will do anything to win the White House, including handing out equal representation like god damn candy.

still made about a dem justice to replace scalia?

or because thx to trump, dems will be in the white house for the next 25yrs.

 

[Sunburn74]

I think the Constitution is correct and that DC should not be given statehood. The reasons are still valid. IMO the District of Columbia was never intended to be an area of residence. The people that are living there chose to do so with the constitutional limits in place.

That's fine. Then make the rules consistent with the constitution. Make DC a place where if you live, you don't pay taxes and cannot get drafted into the military nor do you get medicaid or medicare benefits.

 

[pcgeek11]

That's fine. Then make the rules consistent with the constitution. Make DC a place where if you live, you don't pay taxes and cannot get drafted into the military nor do you get medicaid or medicare benefits.

All US Citizens pay federal taxes regardless if they live in a state or not.

We do not have a draft at present. All US Male Citizens that meet the criteria are eligible to be drafted regardless if they live in a state or not.

All US Citizens are eligible for medicaid or medicare if they meet the rules Regardless if they live in a state or not.

The rules are consistent. I'm not sure what you mean.

 

[Jimzz]

Not exactly... Congress just doesn't want to allow it.

You are both right. Republicans in congress did not want it as PR leans Dem and PR did not want it as they are US citizens but have fewer taxes.

I say let them go on their own, file for bankruptcy or what ever they want, or make them a full state so they can handle their own affairs as all other states can on their own.

This is the same BS that republicans have done with the postal service. No real support but makes rules that make it impossible to run well.

 

[Sunburn74]

All US Citizens pay federal taxes regardless if they live in a state or not.

We do not have a draft at present. All US Male Citizens that meet the criteria are eligible to be drafted regardless if they live in a state or not.

All US Citizens are eligible for medicaid or medicare if they meet the rules Regardless if they live in a state or not.

The rules are consistent. I'm not sure what you mean.

Citizens overseas are subject to these rules and citizens living in US territories like Guam?

 

[piasabird]

I support Chicago to be a separate state.

 

[piasabird]

What I would rather see is the Capital of the USA moved to a mid-western location and some of the agencies spread our into regional sub-agencies. With all our technology and the Internet there is no reason to put them so close together that a single Nuclear device can take out the entire government. For instance the House and the Senate and the White House could all be in separate states.

 

[pcgeek11]

Citizens overseas are subject to these rules and citizens living in US territories like Guam?

Yes in accordance with the rules set forth by those particular programs.

US Territories are in a special position and have different rules. The US Territories have a completely separate set of issues and problems.

I do feel that the territories should be cut loose to float their own boat or become a state. They should not be classed as US Citizens.

Washington DC is not a territory by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[1sikbITCH]

I guess some people are more equal than other people is what you're arguing?



Why do we have states at all actually? What tangible benefit are we actually getting from 50 different states as opposed to say no states or just a few states total (like 5 or 7)?

There is a huge tangible benefit. Some people hate black people so they live in states where The South still lives on and they can be proud racists. Other people like to smoke weed so they live in Colorado. Other people hate weed so they live in oppressive states. Other people like to carry guns so they live in Open Carry states.
And some teachers like to screw underage boys and they live in Florida.
Benefits for all.

 

[kage69]

With how Congress treats the people of DC, I can't blame them at all for wanting to be a state. I suppose it would be easier for republicans to pull the stick out of their asses wrt to DC self-governance, but we all know that can't happen.

John Oliver did a piece on it, worth a watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z4j2CrJRn4

When Congress blocks DC from using it's own tax money to fund a clean needle exchange, something is fucked up. Especially when it's being shot down by republicans who have a needle exchange programs in their home states!

One more issue where this Congress can go fuck itself IMO. Good luck on your statehood DC, I'm with you.

 

[zinfamous]

DC has an area of 61.05 square miles.

Texas has a land area of 268,581 square miles.

If DC is allowed to become a state, and receive two senators, then I propose Texas be broken up into 4,399 "DC" sized states and receive 8,798 senators.

What's fair is fair.

Why don't you use that same math for Rhode Island?

Or hey--since wimpy Texas is 1/3rd the size of Alaska, shouldn't Alaska get 26,394 senators?