Hillary should drop out

[OrByte]

There is plenty of time for Dems to snap out of this bickering and refocus on not allowing GWBv2 into the white house.

GOPers are kidding themselves if they think they will get a mass exodus over to the right.

 

[alchemize]

I'm just chock full of Billary schadenfreude today

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I quite frankly see this thread as mainly GOP masturbation.

:laugh:

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I quite frankly see this thread as mainly GOP masturbation.

because god knows I'm a rabid conservative

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Again, I find it very strange that the people who support Clinton are saying that they want to go vote for someone who opposes nearly every major policy position she has on contentious issues. What's also interesting is that your preferred candidate will shortly be endorsing Obama after he wins the nomination, and so you will ignore both the policy positions and the recommendations of the person you wanted to win the presidency.

I mean everyone's free to vote how they want, it just seems like a bizarre way to evaluate candidates.

Yes, it's almost like there could be another reason for these Obama detractors to vote for his opponent. Hmm...

 

[Bird222]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

So you're okay with the war continuing for the entirety of McCain's presidency? Again, this is bizarre that you would vote to elect someone who stands against most of the things you believe in with the vain hopes that a Democratic congress would oppose him enough (where there is very limited evidence to their effectiveness in doing that) instead of electing someone who shares nearly every single value your candidate does.

I still do not understand why you would not want gridlock with Hillary, as she and Obama have almost the same platforms. Why are you afraid of Obama implementing his, but not Hillary implementing hers when they are IDENTICAL?

QFT. I would like to hear the answer to this too.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Vic
Will Clinton's ex-supporters switch en masse to McCain? Will they become McCain's biggest following?

I hope this will not be the problem it appears to be now.

I mean, can the Democrats really fuck up this bad, and allow the Republicans 4 more years in the white house?

One of the speakingheads last night was talking about poll results and said the number of clinton peeps voting mccain vice BHO was up to about 39%. So you could say a vote for BHO is a vote for Mccain.

No YOU could say a vote for Obama is a vote for McCain and no matter how much you repeat it - like your childish using the 'H' in his middle name to attempt to tie him to Islam - it doesn't make it true. Did you ever consider Hillary's supporters are responding negatively now because of the recent loss and realization her campaign has no chance? Once she pulls out and endorses Obama those numbers will change.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Vic
Will Clinton's ex-supporters switch en masse to McCain? Will they become McCain's biggest following?

I hope this will not be the problem it appears to be now.

I mean, can the Democrats really fuck up this bad, and allow the Republicans 4 more years in the white house?

One of the speakingheads last night was talking about poll results and said the number of clinton peeps voting mccain vice BHO was up to about 39%. So you could say a vote for BHO is a vote for Mccain.

No YOU could say a vote for Obama is a vote for McCain and no matter how much you repeat it - like your childish using the 'H' in his middle name to attempt to tie him to Islam - it doesn't make it true. Did you ever consider Hillary's supporters are responding negatively now because of the recent loss and realization her campaign has no chance? Once she pulls out and endorses Obama those numbers will change.

Oh snap! Next you will be telling me McSame doesn't really mean anything.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Bird222

Originally posted by: eskimospy

So you're okay with the war continuing for the entirety of McCain's presidency? Again, this is bizarre that you would vote to elect someone who stands against most of the things you believe in with the vain hopes that a Democratic congress would oppose him enough (where there is very limited evidence to their effectiveness in doing that) instead of electing someone who shares nearly every single value your candidate does.

I still do not understand why you would not want gridlock with Hillary, as she and Obama have almost the same platforms. Why are you afraid of Obama implementing his, but not Hillary implementing hers when they are IDENTICAL?

QFT. I would like to hear the answer to this too.

We project onto our candidates our hope for ourselves because we feel worthless inside and when our candidate loses we feel our feeling is true. This is why it is necessary to understand the enormous danger of identification. Our struggle to manifest good in the world politically and else wise is real and deep, corresponding to our true human nature, but our beliefs about what that good actually is are delusions. This is why the process of growth in wisdom is not one of addition, but the subtraction of false ideals.

 

[Moonbeam]

As self hate propels us to extinction more and more on that bullet train awaken. A mighty tide of change is coming and it's a race. If old thinking does not die, we all will. Love turned to hate kills. We have always been OK and we've been told you are forgiven. How do we take it in?

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues

Originally posted by: RY62
As another Clinton supporter, I'll admit that she's finished but I hope she fights on. For myself, it was never about being for her, it was about being against Obama and I can continue being against him whether she's in or out.

It's hard to believe that, after voting Democrat for 28 years, tonight I'd rather be a Republican.

the democratic party is most likely better off without you and the entire clinton machine

The Clinton machine is the reason the Democratic party has the edge on the economy.
Take out the Clinton years, and you have Jimmy Carter and LBJ's war on poverty debacle. Obama is following in those footsteps, with predictable results.

What was it about Clinton's policies that gave him an edge on the economy?

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: RY62

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues

Originally posted by: RY62
As another Clinton supporter, I'll admit that she's finished but I hope she fights on. For myself, it was never about being for her, it was about being against Obama and I can continue being against him whether she's in or out.

It's hard to believe that, after voting Democrat for 28 years, tonight I'd rather be a Republican.

the democratic party is most likely better off without you and the entire clinton machine

The Clinton base is half of the Dem party. Good luck getting anywhere without us.

IMO if the Clinton base doesn't get in line behind her endorsement of Obama and vote for him in the GE she'll be blamed for the loss and she can kiss her future political career goodbye.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Vic
Will Clinton's ex-supporters switch en masse to McCain? Will they become McCain's biggest following?

I hope this will not be the problem it appears to be now.

I mean, can the Democrats really fuck up this bad, and allow the Republicans 4 more years in the white house?

One of the speakingheads last night was talking about poll results and said the number of clinton peeps voting mccain vice BHO was up to about 39%. So you could say a vote for BHO is a vote for Mccain.

No YOU could say a vote for Obama is a vote for McCain and no matter how much you repeat it - like your childish using the 'H' in his middle name to attempt to tie him to Islam - it doesn't make it true. Did you ever consider Hillary's supporters are responding negatively now because of the recent loss and realization her campaign has no chance? Once she pulls out and endorses Obama those numbers will change.

Oh snap! Next you will be telling me McSame doesn't really mean anything.

I don't think I've ever used McSame, McLame, Billary, Shillary, Hildabeast, etc but at least McSame has some merit. McCain has already promised we're in it to win it in Iraq, Bush's tax cuts, and more conservative SCJ appointments.

Edit: Add to that an aggressive foreign policy (or lack thereof) that this country definitely doesn't need anymore.