Hillary lying for 13 minutes straight.

[gururu2]

I don't get it. Does this mean you will be supporting her now? Because you seem to be 100% committed to supporting your boy trump, despite having been shown all the times he has lied.

I guess if you want the best flip flopper and liar you gotta go trump! He's the one candidates that make Hillary look like a saint!

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/


But you go boy!

Yes, actually Hillary is by percent truth told the most honest of all the candidates by politifact's vetting. It astonishes me how many people perpetuate the "lie" that she is so dishonest (in comparison to say....Bernie) while praising their candidate of choice.

 

[Victorian Gray]

These are all famous, well-reported news stories, and documentation is immediately available on government websites and the archives of any major news publication from the periods in question.

Being in college, you are too young for most of them to remember. Gen Xers like myself have not forgotten. She's pure evil and there's no way I could vote for her and keep a clear conscience.

Don't forget, she had Vince Foster killed. I actually think she did it herself. Looked him in the eyes and pulled the trigger.

 

[michal1980]

Yes, actually Hillary is by percent truth told the most honest of all the candidates by politifact's vetting. It astonishes me how many people perpetuate the "lie" that she is so dishonest (in comparison to say....Bernie) while praising their candidate of choice.

Is she still dodging sniper fire?

 

[SP33Demon]

Yes, actually Hillary is by percent truth told the most honest of all the candidates by politifact's vetting. It astonishes me how many people perpetuate the "lie" that she is so dishonest (in comparison to say....Bernie) while praising their candidate of choice.

Uhh, my sarcasm meter must be broken. Or post a video of Bernie.

 

[gururu2]

Is she still dodging sniper fire?

"the speed of light within a vacuum is the same no matter the speed at which an observer travels"

 

[Strk]

20M+ jobs created while balancing the budget

I wasn't aware that was her presidency? I'd rather not have a candidate who has more in common with Dubya than Obama, but that's just me.

 

[thraashman]

Yes, actually Hillary is by percent truth told the most honest of all the candidates by politifact's vetting. It astonishes me how many people perpetuate the "lie" that she is so dishonest (in comparison to say....Bernie) while praising their candidate of choice.

I made a graphic back in December to combat my cousin who inexplicably supports Ted Cruz. I used Politifact ratings of True/Mostly True ... all that. I just updated it a minute ago. If you rate told the truth as including statement that are rated "True" or "Mostly True" then here's are the percentage times of telling truth for each candidate.
Hillary - 50.9%
Bernie - 47.7%
Rubio - 35.5%
Cruz - 21.7%
Trump - 6.8%

Now for the other end of the spectrum, the lies. So considering Half True statements as neither telling the truth nor lying, I then compiled percentages for Mostly False, False, and Pants on Fire. Here are those
Hillary - 28.2%
Bernie - 31.3%
Rubio - 42%
Cruz - 66.3%
Trump - 78.4%

So, it shows that Hillary is the most honest and least dishonest candidate. And Trump wouldn't know honesty if it kicked him in the junk.

When I compiled this list in December, Bernie had a higher honesty percentage than Hillary. Seems he had a rough winter.
Also, my original list had Ben Carson, but as he's suspended his campaign, I won't kick the man when he's down (he was less honest than Trump though).

 

[trenchfoot]

Oh posh...Hillary this, and Hillary that....Before you know it, it will be President Hillary this, and President Hillary that.

 

[Subyman]

That video is exactly why Trump is getting so popular. Both lie like crazy, but Clinton's makes you cringe more as she slithers around the questions. Trump meets a lie with another extremely confident lie about never saying the quote you are telling him lol. For whatever reason, he comes off as simply dismissive instead of like Hillary which makes you feel like she is getting an enema as she squirms to get out of the question.

I wish a politician can say they changed their mind. It isn't political suicide unless they do it daily.

 

[thraashman]

That video is exactly why Trump is getting so popular. Both lie like crazy, but Clinton's makes you cringe more as she slithers around the questions. Trump meets a lie with another extremely confident lie about never saying the quote you are telling him lol. For whatever reason, he comes off as simply dismissive instead of like Hillary which makes you feel like she is getting an enema as she squirms to get out of the question.

I wish a politician can say they changed their mind. It isn't political suicide unless they do it daily.

When Obama changed his mind on gay marriage, the right attacked him for years. Still do. Romney had interviews in 2012 in which he took both sides of an issue 3 minutes apart from each other. The right is perfectly happy with having their side take a half dozen stands on an issue because truth and honesty are completely unimportant to them. Trump proves that the right doesn't care what you say just so long as you stoke their anger correctly.

 

[gururu2]

I made a graphic back in December to combat my cousin who inexplicably supports Ted Cruz. I used Politifact ratings of True/Mostly True ... all that. I just updated it a minute ago. If you rate told the truth as including statement that are rated "True" or "Mostly True" then here's are the percentage times of telling truth for each candidate.
Hillary - 50.9%
Bernie - 47.7%
Rubio - 35.5%
Cruz - 21.7%
Trump - 6.8%

Now for the other end of the spectrum, the lies. So considering Half True statements as neither telling the truth nor lying, I then compiled percentages for Mostly False, False, and Pants on Fire. Here are those
Hillary - 28.2%
Bernie - 31.3%
Rubio - 42%
Cruz - 66.3%
Trump - 78.4%

So, it shows that Hillary is the most honest and least dishonest candidate. And Trump wouldn't know honesty if it kicked him in the junk.

When I compiled this list in December, Bernie had a higher honesty percentage than Hillary. Seems he had a rough winter.
Also, my original list had Ben Carson, but as he's suspended his campaign, I won't kick the man when he's down (he was less honest than Trump though).

QFT. When people call a man a liar, its like no biggie. When people call a woman a liar, its time to stone her. Sexism at its best.

 

[LPCTech]

All Hillary needs to do is pick Bernie for vice president.

Then its ova. The win over Trump will be Yuugge!!

But otherwise I dunno, there are a lot of retards.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I made a graphic back in December to combat my cousin who inexplicably supports Ted Cruz. I used Politifact ratings of True/Mostly True ... all that. I just updated it a minute ago. If you rate told the truth as including statement that are rated "True" or "Mostly True" then here's are the percentage times of telling truth for each candidate.
Hillary - 50.9%
Bernie - 47.7%
Rubio - 35.5%
Cruz - 21.7%
Trump - 6.8%

Now for the other end of the spectrum, the lies. So considering Half True statements as neither telling the truth nor lying, I then compiled percentages for Mostly False, False, and Pants on Fire. Here are those
Hillary - 28.2%
Bernie - 31.3%
Rubio - 42%
Cruz - 66.3%
Trump - 78.4%

So, it shows that Hillary is the most honest and least dishonest candidate. And Trump wouldn't know honesty if it kicked him in the junk.

When I compiled this list in December, Bernie had a higher honesty percentage than Hillary. Seems he had a rough winter.
Also, my original list had Ben Carson, but as he's suspended his campaign, I won't kick the man when he's down (he was less honest than Trump though).

Gonna wait to see how drumpf's pet troll responds to this. Other than bashing the source.

 

[Spungo]

Uhh, my sarcasm meter must be broken. Or post a video of Bernie.

Or you could just check politifact.
Clinton
Bernie
Trump

Please keep in mind that the percentages are about statements involving that person. That means a statement mentioning Hillary but said by others would still show up as a false statement tagged with Hillary's name. It doesn't mean she was the one lying. The same is true for guys like Bernie and Donald. Also remember that many of them are subjective. For example, Donald said Romney's campaign died when he named Ryan as his pick for VP. Politifact rules that as false since polls do not support that statement, but what Donald said really is an accurate reflection of how many people feel. Ryan was almost as bad as Romney. He couldn't even tell the truth about how fast he runs! That was the final nail in Romney's campaign coffin. The polls would not reflect that as the final nail since Romney's campaign was half dead even before that point.
Also remember that not all false statements are equal. Saying "I'm the reason we're talking about illegal immigration" is a false statement that doesn't change anything, but saying "I didn't shoot that guy in the head" is a huge lie that probably does matter.


I'm a little disappointed by how politifact determines whether or not something is true. It seems like a lot of these should not be listed as true or false since they are entirely subjective. In one statement, Hillary said ISIS will show video of Trump bashing Islam, and that could be used to recruit more terrorists. Polifact shows that statement as false because there is no evidence of it. Is that really a false statement? It's more a hypothetical, and it probably does have some basis in reality.

 

[Jhhnn]

When Obama changed his mind on gay marriage, the right attacked him for years. Still do. Romney had interviews in 2012 in which he took both sides of an issue 3 minutes apart from each other. The right is perfectly happy with having their side take a half dozen stands on an issue because truth and honesty are completely unimportant to them. Trump proves that the right doesn't care what you say just so long as you stoke their anger correctly.

They've been accumulating cognitive dissonance for decades, compartmentalizing the Hell out of it. That only carries 'em just so far, to the point where they choose to vent continuously rather than to honestly reconsider any of their most cherished beliefs.

Trump exploits that magnificently at an emotional level, draws out his supporters' inner vulgarians. They have no idea as to what he's actually doing with their heads. They just know it feels good to let it all hang out & release their inner tensions. That's all the truth they seek & Donald delivers.

The whole "trust" & "truth" attack on Hillary is exquisitely Rovian, attacking the opposition at Repubs own most vulnerable point. I mean "the truth"? When have Repubs told the truth about anything that really matters?

 

[zinfamous]

lol. A Drumpf supporter has the temerity to call Hillary a liar?



Shortman syndrome is obvious.

 

[Jhhnn]

Please keep in mind that the percentages are about statements involving that person. That means a statement mentioning Hillary but said by others would still show up as a false statement tagged with Hillary's name. It doesn't mean she was the one lying. The same is true for guys like Bernie and Donald.

I don't believe that's true. The way they group the quotes might lead you to believe that, but each quote is used to evaluate the speaker rather than who or what they're talking about. If a false statement from Cruz about Trump appears on the Trump page it still goes into Cruz's totals.

What it boils down to is that by any objective measure Donald Trump is the lyingest son of a bitch in the race.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I don't believe that's true. The way they group the quotes might lead you to believe that, but each quote is used to evaluate the speaker rather than who or what they're talking about. If a false statement from Cruz about Trump appears on the Trump page it still goes into Cruz's totals.

What it boils down to is that by any objective measure Donald Trump is the lyingest son of a bitch in the race.

b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but... Hillary! and Benghazi, and Vince Foster and I am pretty sure Hillary killed my puppy when I was 4. Ask her and I guarantee she will deny it.

 

[Spungo]

What it boils down to is that by any objective measure Donald Trump is the lyingest son of a bitch in the race.

We should go through some of these to determine how wrong he is on each one. I can tolerate someone being a little off on a consistent basis, but I can't tolerate someone being waaaaaaaay off.

The link again: Trump

David Duke (KKK guy):
Trump definitely lied. This is Paul Ryan level of lying for no reason.

Trump saying the media can't be sued:
He's technically wrong that they can't be sued. In practice, he's 100% correct. Fox News is so fucked up that its viewers are actually less informed than people who watch no news at all. They do character assassinations and strawman arguments every day, but they never seem to get in trouble for it. There is no law against having extremely misleading news.

Claiming to have an A from the Better Business Bureau:
Politifact rules that this is false, but the details say that it's actually half-true. Here's the quote from Politifact's ruling:

Trump University had an A at some point. The Better Business Bureau doesn't release details of its past ratings, but it did say Trump's program had ratings that ranged from A+ to D-.

Paul Ryan killed Romney's chance of winning:
This is entirely subjective. A lot of people, myself included, feel this is true. He wasn't Sarah Palin level of terrible, but he was terrible.

Claiming he did not support the killing of Gaddafi:
Trump definitely lied about this.

Trump claiming he's the reason people are talking about immigration:
This is just everyday bullshitting. Nobody cares if this is true or not.

The legend of Pershing, Muslims, and pig blood:
This one is interesting because the general message is more important than the details. Trump's message is that force and fear were effective for stopping uprisings. Trump is just wrong on this. Being brutal didn't work. Even negotiating didn't work. Leaving them the hell alone is what improved relations between the US and the Philippines. What he's doing is comparable to telling the story of building a house on sand and then concluding that sand makes an excellent foundation for a house.

Obamacare leaves no options:
I would say Trump is fundamentally correct on this. It's because Obamacare specifies the level of care required for a plan to be legal. It is no longer possible to buy bare minimum plans that only cover catastrophic events. Since every plan is virtually the same, that means the cost from every provider is virtually the same.


Iraq war will destabilize the middle east:
This is interesting. It looks like he actually did express disapproval. He didn't use the word destabilize, but what he describes certainly does sound less stable.

(August 2004)
"Look at the war in Iraq and the mess that we're in. I would never have handled it that way. Does anybody really believe that Iraq is going to be a wonderful democracy where people are going to run down to the voting box and gently put in their ballot and the winner is happily going to step up to lead the country? C'mon. Two minutes after we leave, there's going to be a revolution, and the meanest, toughest, smartest, most vicious guy will take over. And he'll have weapons of mass destruction, which Saddam didn't have."

Claiming unemployment is far higher than 5%:
The random numbers he throws out might not correct, but his overall point is correct. The unemployment rate is only going down because people are dropping out of the labor force. Our labor force peaked around 2000-2001. It's not caused by people going into retirement; metrics show seniors are actually coming out of retirement because it's not possible to retire in a ZIRP/NIRP environment. We're seeing millions of young adults not working. They're not counted as unemployed because they've been unemployed for such a long time.
America's labor force is roughly 155 million people, and the BLS says 121 million have full time jobs. That puts the unemployment and underemployment rate somewhere in the range of 22%.
Trump is popular because he is saying what the majority of people are thinking. Just look at the comments and polls on any article about job numbers. Very few people are saying how great everything is, and a lot of people are calling the numbers fake. We wouldn't have a record number of people on food stamps if jobs were as plentiful as the BLS says they are.

Trump on education spending:
He's right that America spends an absurdly large amount of money on education, but the numbers he throws out are even more absurd.

America already has the highest taxes:
This is interesting because it shows what Trump is really thinking about. America has some of the highest corporate taxes. Personal income taxes are not even close to being the highest.


His propensity to act before having all of the facts is a bit concerning.

 

[hal2kilo]

Don't forget, she had Vince Foster killed. I actually think she did it herself. Looked him in the eyes and pulled the trigger.

Found him slumped over in his car at the Turkey Run park.
We used to call it Square Tunnel because there was a huge 10 x 10 culvert running under the GW Parkway so you could get to the cliffs over the Potomac and smoke ... NM.

 

[werepossum]

If Hillary Clinton was hooked up to a polygraph, it probably explode past the 2 minute mark.

edit -- Ben Carson dropped out of the republican race today if anyone cares.
Source: https://www.bencarson.com/news/news-updates/official-statement-by-dr.-ben-carson

+1

I don't think even Ben Carson cares.

Didn't watch the video and every Pubby who would make me vote for the Hildabeast has dropped out, but I can't imagine any national politician for whom such a video couldn't be compiled. We not only reward lying, we practically require it.