Hillary faints @ ground zero?

[dainthomas]

Trump went after McCain for being a POW. But he is still considered acceptable to the Right.

He only likes soldiers who don't get captured.

 

[Jhhnn]

http://www.mayoclinic.org/first-aid/first-aid-fainting/basics/ART-20056606

It's simple, depending on how high you are, you may understand it.

So you have no reliable source claiming she actually lost consciousness, correct?

But you'll try to bullshit your way through, obviously.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Maybe if they just issued a press release when they first found out she had pneumonia and stated Senator Clinton will still campaign but at a lighter schedule...

...there might be less conspiracy nutjob theories from the raving right wing teeth-grinders.



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No, they would have simply twisted it into a different fantasy. Face it, Clinton is damned no matter what she does.

 

[Jhhnn]

No, they would have simply twisted it into a different fantasy. Face it, Clinton is damned no matter what she does.

There is some good news-

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report)—In a positive development for the Democratic nominee for President, a new poll released on Sunday reveals that likely voters find an unconscious Hillary Clinton “substantially more fit” to be President than a conscious Donald Trump.

In a hypothetical matchup between a Clinton who has been rendered completely unconscious and a fully sentient Trump, voters chose an inert Clinton over an ambulatory Trump by a margin of nine percentage points.

A spokesperson for the Clinton campaign hailed the findings. “We have every reason to believe that Hillary Clinton will be a fully conscious President,” the spokesperson said. “But even if she is not, she is still the far better choice.”

The same poll revealed that a broad majority of voters found an unconscious Donald Trump more fit to be President than a conscious one.

Finally, when asked about the Libertarian Presidential candidate Gary Johnson, a significant number of voters were undecided as to whether Johnson was conscious or unconscious.

 

[Kazukian]

So you have no reliable source claiming she actually lost consciousness, correct?

But you'll try to bullshit your way through, obviously.

Jhhnn, what exactly did you see in those videos? I saw a woman lose consciousness and get loaded into a van lake a sack of potatoes. She obviously lost control of her legs and a flipping shoe fell off.

I'm not screaming "seizure" or "Parkinson's" the simplest answer is she fainted, I'm not ascribing any underlying pathology at all. Fainting is simple, non life threatening, and I've never called for her to drop out or said she's unfit to be POTUS. Matter of fact, one of the reasons she hasn't been transparent IMHO is ageism, and I think that's a very bad thing, not the lack of transparency, the bias. I've "fainted" a couple of times, dehydrated, low blood sugar, etc.

https://youtu.be/oYumpsh9x6w

So, what did you see Jhhnn?

 

[theeedude]

On and off coughing attacks for the past year is not a temporary case of pneumonia this week.
It's akin to learning that 1+1=2 but maybe I expect too much out of you.

She needs to be carried up stairs, she cannot drive a vehicle, she randomly collapses, and you think she's going to lead this country.
Tim Kaine 2017.

So "No" on the college degree, doc?

 

[LegendKiller]

I hope you don't actually believe that. The giant black guy is a secret Service agent as seen here-

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/08/04/secret-service-jumps-on-stage-at-clinton-rally-sot.cnn

It's impossible to say what's in his hand, you actually know that, but it's probably a pen light. Or maybe a neuralyzer from Men in Black. You decide.

You actually believe that guy is a usss agent? When was his last fitness check? 1990?

 

[flexy]

Jhhnn, what exactly did you see in those videos? I saw a woman lose consciousness and get loaded into a van lake a sack of potatoes. She obviously lost control of her legs and a flipping shoe fell off.

Not entirely correct. Yes she "collapsed", but not clear whether she lost consciousness. She had some type of faint/weak spell and then stumbled/got dragged over those steps. I don't know whether this is significant, but sudden "spells of weakness" (really don't know whether there is a proper translation for this) are not extremely uncommon. (It reminds me of an episode where Merkel not that long ago also had a "spell of weakness", except that this never made it beyond a short mention in the media for ONE DAY....and there is no reason to believe that Merkel is "in bad health", whatsoever).
As already mentioned many times, it fucking happens.

 

[IGBT]

You guy's are despicable..or what did hillary say?? Deplorable!! This coronation is going badly off the rails. Why won't you people just let her be president, as she was promised and is obviously her divine right? This poor, dying woman and you won't even let her have her final wish of taking the wheel of the bus as it careens off the cliff. What is wrong with you??

 

[blankslate]

He was in the middle of a lawsuit that ultimately provided his clients with $12M they richly deserved. I offered it up as an example of how workaholics drive themselves. He was that, & so is Clinton.

The reason Clinton isn't running away with it like Secretariat at Belmont is because of a couple of decades of FUD & constant back biting & concern trolling today.

You already know that, so why ask why?

And I already told you the difference between your wife's boss and Senator Clinton. Figure it out. He had only his case to worry about. Senator Clinton has as you pointed out all the FUD spreaders ready to invent conspiracies out of a case of pneumonia during perhaps the most consequential presidential campaign in recent history.

Stating that she had pneumonia which is a credible cause of her coughing fits would've provided ample rebuttal to the conspiracy theorists to all but the most brain-addled electorate....
As of now we have all the fallout of her leaving the 9/11 memorial and finding out after the fact she has pneumonia including this partisan thread.

Why am I asking?

Because it was an amateur league keystone cops move from the campaign of a person who sat through hours of the republican benghazi kangaroo court masquerading as hearings without cracking last year.

She has shown she can do better in the face of obstinate idiots and it would be nice if she did that in the last days of this campaign.

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[flexy]

See the big Doc is injecting all those people with Diazepam! Proof right there!
It's one of those injectors with a light in front, so you can inject even in the dark. Nifty!!

 

[Jhhnn]

Jhhnn, what exactly did you see in those videos? I saw a woman lose consciousness and get loaded into a van lake a sack of potatoes. She obviously lost control of her legs and a flipping shoe fell off.

I'm not screaming "seizure" or "Parkinson's" the simplest answer is she fainted, I'm not ascribing any underlying pathology at all. Fainting is simple, non life threatening, and I've never called for her to drop out or said she's unfit to be POTUS. Matter of fact, one of the reasons she hasn't been transparent IMHO is ageism, and I think that's a very bad thing, not the lack of transparency, the bias. I've "fainted" a couple of times, dehydrated, low blood sugar, etc.

https://youtu.be/oYumpsh9x6w

So, what did you see Jhhnn?

I saw a woman who looked woozy loaded into a van. If you want to say she may have lost consciousness I'll go along with that because it's clearly speculation either way. We'll never know.

That's different from asserting she passed out as a fact. It's how we got from the speculation that she might have had a stroke to the assertion that she did. It's how a lie becomes the truth, SOP for right wing propagandists.

 

[Jaskalas]

So "No" on the college degree, doc?

It's not that you are incapable of following the clear evidence here, that her issues have persisted all year is of an elementary level. I won't accuse you of being a preschooler. Apologies to the legion of Democrats on this forum, it must be quite a bruise you've taken these past 24 hours. But I must ask... surely you'd be thrilled to see someone else, anyone else, take up the Democrat leadership.

I mean, aside from the election being so close... you can do better than an ailing Neocon relic of the past. Poll numbers show that you should have chosen someone, anyone, else.

 

[C1]

This ridiculous thread should tell anyone all they need to know about what's going on.

As Eric Harley and Gary McNamara stated last night on Red Eye Radio, "Lies, lies, lies is all that comes from HRC, her aids, the media, emails, health, current administration activities, Clinton Foundation, her activities as SOS ...... you name it. The most un-transparent cabal conceivable."

And this is what is tolerated by so many in these forums (and perhaps seemingly sought after & justified as POTUS material).

You people are f'n nuts.

 

[Jhhnn]

And I already told you the difference between your wife's boss and Senator Clinton. Figure it out. He had only his case to worry about. Senator Clinton has as you pointed out all the FUD spreaders ready to invent conspiracies out of a case of pneumonia during perhaps the most consequential presidential campaign in recent history.

Stating that she had pneumonia which is a credible cause of her coughing fits would've provided ample rebuttal to the conspiracy theorists to all but the most brain-addled electorate....
As of now we have all the fallout of her leaving the 9/11 memorial and finding out after the fact she has pneumonia including this partisan thread.

Why am I asking?

Because it was an amateur league keystone cops move from the campaign of a person who sat through hours of the republican benghazi kangaroo court masquerading as hearings without cracking last year.

She has shown she can do better in the face of obstinate idiots and it would be nice if she did that in the last days of this campaign.

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She's a workaholic. It's just the way they are. She figured she could make it, that she could push on through even though she felt lousy. She was mistaken.

We'd have heard the same level of bullshit if she'd said she wasn't attending because of pneumonia.

 

[Jhhnn]

See the big Doc is injecting all those people with Diazepam! Proof right there!
It's one of those injectors with a light in front, so you can inject even in the dark. Nifty!!

Huh-uhh! He obviously neuralyzed some guy back in that dark corner! Oh the humanity!

 

[Jhhnn]

You actually believe that guy is a usss agent? When was his last fitness check? 1990?

What else do you suppose he might be? The tooth fairy, or what?

 

[theeedude]

It's not that you are incapable of following the clear evidence here, that her issues have persisted all year is of an elementary level. I won't accuse you of being a preschooler. Apologies to the legion of Democrats on this forum, it must be quite a bruise you've taken these past 24 hours. But I must ask... surely you'd be thrilled to see someone else, anyone else, take up the Democrat leadership.
I mean, aside from the election being so close... you can do better than an ailing Neocon relic of the past. Poll numbers show that you should have chosen someone, anyone, else.

Still sounds like no on the college degree there, which is fine, HS/GED grads/dropouts can still be good people, but the weight of their medical opinion is lacking somewhat.
As far as do I want someone else, I am fine with Hillary, I think she'll make a great President.
But aside from that, the difference between decent people and today's Republicans is that decent people want to win, but not at any cost, and don't reduce themselves to cheering their opponent's being ill.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

You actually believe that guy is a usss agent? When was his last fitness check? 1990?

Why not. You actually believe that the Clinton campaign is working so hard to hide her health issues that they allow someone to walk beside her with a medical injector in his hand and a pin identifying him.

Which one seems more reasonable?

And the video has been posted repeatedly of that guy using that item to light up the darkened wings at the side of the stage after. But let's go with nonsense instead.

 

[SP33Demon]

Hillary's on her last leg, literally. To hillary: just admit it because the truth will come out before the election anyway.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Huh-uhh! He obviously neuralyzed some guy back in that dark corner! Oh the humanity!

You can see the light, err diazepam going all over the arm of that guys jacket too.

 

[Jhhnn]

This ridiculous thread should tell anyone all they need to know about what's going on.

As Eric Harley and Gary McNamara stated last night on Red Eye Radio, "Lies, lies, lies is all that comes from HRC, her aids, the media, emails, health, current administration activities, Clinton Foundation, her activities as SOS ...... you name it. The most un-transparent cabal conceivable."

And this is what is tolerated by so many in these forums (and perhaps seemingly sought after & justified as POTUS material).

You people are f'n nuts.

Remember the old "This is your brain, this is your brain on drugs" ad? This is your brain on talk radio... and you're getting those yolks nice & firm...

 

[LegendKiller]

What else do you suppose he might be? The tooth fairy, or what?

Have you *ever* seen a fat usss agent? I mean, ever? There is no way that guy is a regular usss agent on presidential protective detail. He might have been at one time, or might even be one now but has "special" qualifications. What usss have you ever seen touch a subject like that or whisper in their ear?

It is a smoke screen. Just like her not even going to the hospital, as is standard procedure. It was overruled. Why?

Because just like the email server, hide tracks, obfuscate...etc.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I hope you don't actually believe that. The giant black guy is a secret Service agent as seen here-

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/08/04/secret-service-jumps-on-stage-at-clinton-rally-sot.cnn

It's impossible to say what's in his hand, you actually know that, but it's probably a pen light. Or maybe a neuralyzer from Men in Black. You decide.

Now you've gone and done it. That's the video of her "spacing out" and needing to be reminded to speak some posters keep mentioning.....

 

[flexy]

I am really longing back the time (was there one?) where Conservatives with opposing political views were simply "people with opposing views". Yes they didn't agree with some things, but at least they were still "normal" people and somewhat rational.
Now, it seems they're all gone entirely NUTS. I think the internet and conditioning those people (literally brain washing) plays a big role here.