Hillary faints @ ground zero?

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flexy

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZGdPtkschM

She's indeed collapsing.

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fskimospy

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A bit woozy? They dragged her in a van like a sack of potatoes. Look at her feet.

Yep, looked at the video, you can't determine that from it. I can't wait to see what internet doctors attempt to discern from it though! That's always fun.

Also even if she 100% fainted that doesn't mean anything to the substance of my post, which is that things like that happen to perfectly healthy people all the time. Actual medical professionals say she's in fine health, and it's frankly pretty gross that conservatives have tried to fan conspiracy theories about it out of desperation.
 

Carson Dyle

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Not a healthy woman. I doubt that we really know just how bad it is, but the evidence of her ill-health is growing.

If American voters were smart (they're not, as evidenced by Trump) they'd vote Clinton into office with the expectation that she'd fall over dead in office. We keep the looney out the White House and we lose the ****. Best of both worlds.
 
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flexy

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Yep, looked at the video, you can't determine that from it. I can't wait to see what internet doctors attempt to discern from it though! That's always fun.

BEG YOU PARDON?

I am likely the last person on Earth who'd support Trump, but they DO drag her like Schneiderguy said. Maybe you need glasses? She is collapsing, at one point she sacked to her knees.
 
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fskimospy

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BEG YOU PARDON?

I am likely the last person on Earth who'd support Trump, but they DO drag her like Schneiderguy said. Maybe you need glasses? She is collapsing, at one point she sacked to her knees.

I actually have totally awesome vision, consistently better than 20/20! It's not like it's hard to notice when she is obscured by other figures in the video and when she isn't. You never see how she gets into the van.

Hell, even someone who DID need glasses would be able to see that.
 

Kazukian

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Looks like she fainted to me too. Still voting for her. FDR was wheelchair bound and died in office, still one of our best presidents.

Yep, can even happen if you don't flex your knees... Been there, done that, not fun.
 

theeedude

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It's more of rightwingers grasping for straws since they nominated Trump and the only way they can win is to try to disqualify Clinton.
 
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It's not like it's hard to notice when she is obscured by other figures in the video and when she isn't. You never see how she gets into the van.

Watch her feet, she did not make it into the van under her own power. The bottom of her feet are perpendicular to the ground.
 
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fskimospy

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Watch her feet, she did not make it into the van under her own power. The bottom of her feet are perpendicular to the ground.

I did! You can't see her feet when she enters the van. Not sure why anyone's arguing this as again even if she totally 100% fainted it's hard to see why someone would care.
 

IGBT

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Staggering like a Rag Doll and fell face forward into the Wheel Chair Van..As Hillary's knees were buckling she demanded the Secret Service bring her the nuclear football.
 
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Not a Trump supporter at all, but a Presidential candidate's health is an issue; hence why they release physician's reports. She has had terrible coughing fits and had this episode after being out for an hour.

A candidate's health especially comes into play when he/she blames poor health for job related mistakes:

“Clinton stated she received no instructions or direction regarding the preservation or production of records from (the) State (Department) during the transition out of her role as Secretary of State in early 2013...However, in December of 2012, Clinton suffered a concussion and then around the New Year had a blood clot (in her head). Based on her doctor’s advice, she could only work at State for a few hours a day and could not recall every briefing she received.”

If you believe her excuse, then her health has ALREADY affected her job performance. IF, and this is a big if, this fainting spell is indicative of further health/neuro/cv issues, what other briefings might she "forget" as President...?

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I did! You can't see her feet when she enters the van. Not sure why anyone's arguing this as again even if she totally 100% fainted it's hard to see why someone would care.

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Not a Trump supporter at all, but a Presidential candidate's health is an issue; hence why they release physician's reports. She has had terrible coughing fits and had this episode after being out for an hour.

A candidate's health especially comes into play when he/she blames poor health for job related mistakes:

“Clinton stated she received no instructions or direction regarding the preservation or production of records from (the) State (Department) during the transition out of her role as Secretary of State in early 2013...However, in December of 2012, Clinton suffered a concussion and then around the New Year had a blood clot (in her head). Based on her doctor’s advice, she could only work at State for a few hours a day and could not recall every briefing she received.”

If you believe her excuse, then her health has ALREADY affected her job performance. IF, and this is a big if, this fainting spell is indicative of further health/neuro/cv issues, what other briefings might she "forget" as President...?

-Giant Meteor 2016-
Clinton has already released her medical information. But this is her birth certificate. It's not to be believed by the faithful. Nothing short of someone saying she's at deaths door will be acceptable.

As to her excuse as you put it, no one with critical thinking skills would equate it to anything beyond a politician saying as little as necessary to avoid self incrimination. It's not like that's something new. To equate it to her health is just stupid.
 

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Buncha maroons. She slipped stepping off the curb. It probably happens a million times a week in this country.

Kee-rist. If she dropped dead tomorrow these idiots would claim it was suicide so that she wouldn't have to face prosecution.
 

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At the beginning of that youtube video, it is clear the woman standing next to her is holding her up (or at least providing some support). It also appears that Hillary is leaning on that post. And yes, you can see her feet (although only briefly) and they are definitely dragging.

There is something wrong with her.

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Kazukian

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Buncha maroons. She slipped stepping off the curb. It probably happens a million times a week in this country.

Kee-rist. If she dropped dead tomorrow these idiots would claim it was suicide so that she wouldn't have to face prosecution.

And that's spin and bullshit, one person on each side, and one behind holding both sides before she "slipped"

You need to smoke some more weed, it'll all make more sense.
 
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Aegeon

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Not a Trump supporter at all, but a Presidential candidate's health is an issue; hence why they release physician's reports. She has had terrible coughing fits and had this episode after being out for an hour.

A candidate's health especially comes into play when he/she blames poor health for job related mistakes:..

f you believe her excuse, then her health has ALREADY affected her job performance. IF, and this is a big if, this fainting spell is indicative of further health/neuro/cv issues, what other briefings might she "forget" as President...?
If your serious this seems pretty dubious given the specific nature of the race in particular. Fainting (which at worst does not appear to be of the full blown variety given the video evidence assuming you interpret it that way specifically) is not that big of deal if it was heat related (Hillary probably did pick the wrong clothing for the event) and is we're not talking about her doing it all the time or something which conspiracy theories aside is actually contradicted by the level of public scrutiny she has been through recently.

The 2012 incident is the sort of thing which can happen to an older individual and really does not show much on its own or given any reason to believe its a long term issue given the evidence she has recovered fine.

If she was running up against a much younger opponent it might be arguably more of a legitimate issue, but given Trump is older and has given even more limited info about his health, its hard to see how this is a real argument against Hillary. The historical public perception of the Kennedy vs Nixon Presidential race and their comparative health versus the actual reality certainly shows the danger of relying on a couple of superficial indications of health. (With allot of the current commentary regarding Hillary actually more on the conspiratorial side.)
 

Jhhnn

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And that's spin and bullshit, one person on each side, and one behind holding both sides before she "slipped"

You need to smoke some more weed, it'll all make more sense.

Please. The Secret Service is there to protect her, even from slipping off the curb. None of them want to be held accountable for even a scratch.