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Hillary Denies White House Run In Trouble

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Actually, the constant harping on Hillary will not convince anyone who already supports her to abandon her, and will only energize those women who are on the fence to support her as she appears the victim. Keep it up.
Ushering in yet another era of a President elected based on sound, rational and educated decisions about the candidate in question. :roll:

Harping on Hillary from the same people who thought electing Bush was a good idea only makes me more convinced she is the best person to run this country.
Sure, there are some Bush supporters on this forum harping about Hillary...but look at the power struggle going on in the Democratic Party right now.

I believe that Obama and Hillary are both electable...some Democrats want to revert back to the Clintonian era...others are more progressive and seek a new face and vision for their party.

I would never vote for Hillary...I have little respect for the Clintonian ideology of triangulation...I find Obama fascinating just because I think this nation needs an energetic and visionary leader...sure, most of his rhetoric is empty at this point, but Obama has more potential as a leader of change than Hillary. Hillary is and will remain a polarizing figure, even if she takes the White House...after 8 years of partisan stupidity, do we really want to elect someone who will inevitably project such bickering further?
 
Originally posted by: Lemon law
At this point Pabster, I really really really recommend you find some means of stress relief.
Because spamming P&N ain't doing it for you and its boring most of us. Maybe you should seek psychiatric help for your obsessive compulsive behavior.

:laugh:

My stress is relieved each time Hillary is defeated. Tomorrow will be fun. :laugh:

 
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Actually, the constant harping on Hillary will not convince anyone who already supports her to abandon her, and will only energize those women who are on the fence to support her as she appears the victim. Keep it up.
Ushering in yet another era of a President elected based on sound, rational and educated decisions about the candidate in question. :roll:

Harping on Hillary from the same people who thought electing Bush was a good idea only makes me more convinced she is the best person to run this country.
Sure, there are some Bush supporters on this forum harping about Hillary...but look at the power struggle going on in the Democratic Party right now.

I believe that Obama and Hillary are both electable...some Democrats want to revert back to the Clintonian era...others are more progressive and seek a new face and vision for their party.

I would never vote for Hillary...I have little respect for the Clintonian ideology of triangulation...I find Obama fascinating just because I think this nation needs an energetic and visionary leader...sure, most of his rhetoric is empty at this point, but Obama has more potential as a leader of change than Hillary. Hillary is and will remain a polarizing figure, even if she takes the White House...after 8 years of partisan stupidity, do we really want to elect someone who will inevitably project such bickering further?

Clinton and Obama have the same ideology. If you actually read the platforms, they are essentially the same. They just have different ways of talking. So it is absolutely Hillarious to me that people, especially from the right, bash Clinton but support Obama. It's almost as silly as liberals supporting Ron Paul.
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Lemon law
At this point Pabster, I really really really recommend you find some means of stress relief.
Because spamming P&N ain't doing it for you and its boring most of us. Maybe you should seek psychiatric help for your obsessive compulsive behavior.

:laugh:

My stress is relieved each time Hillary is defeated. Tomorrow will be fun. :laugh:

You won't get any relief for a while, unless you count the Hillary bashing circle jerk, of course.
 
To Pabster who says------My stress is relieved each time Hillary is defeated. Tomorrow will be fun.

Even though I hope Hillary does not win the democratic nomination, there may be some consolation on 11/5/2008 in seeing how much fun you will have saying President elect Hillary Clinton for four to eight years.


 
Originally posted by: spittledip
In all fairness, who wouldn't be in personal anguish ove her husband's affair? This is totally below the belt and using something like this as a dig at HRC is in very poor taste Pabster.

Oh please. I didn't make any comments, it is a fucking news story. Grow up.

And with your victim card mentality, you might have a job at HRC Headquarters. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: spittledip
In all fairness, who wouldn't be in personal anguish ove her husband's affair? This is totally below the belt and using something like this as a dig at HRC is in very poor taste Pabster.

Oh please. I didn't make any comments, it is a fucking news story. Grow up.

And with your victim card mentality, you might have a job at HRC Headquarters. :roll:

LOL talk about dishonest. Take it in the context of the thread. this thread is about her political downfall (whether or not that is true remains to be seen of course). You are using this story as ammo to support your thread. Poor taste.

And if you have noticed from my other posts, HRC is probably my least favorite candidate, to put it nicely. So I am not defending out of loyalty..
 
Originally posted by: senseamp
Clinton and Obama have the same ideology. If you actually read the platforms, they are essentially the same.
So Obama shares the ideology of HRC? I don't think so, her ideology is "self-promotion".

Many political analysts disagree that they are similarly liberal. Many believe Obama more liberal.

But I beleive their styles, if Pres, would be strikingly different. HRC's claim to fame, aside from being married to Bill and a few scandals of her own, is Repub bashing. She's the most highly partisan candidate in this election.

Obama, OTOH, lacks that characteristic (at least so far). I suspect his style would be much much different than HRC.


They just have different ways of talking. It used to be a difference in what they said, until HRC "discovered" Obama's message and started using it for herself. So it is absolutely Hillarious to me that people, especially from the right, bash Clinton but support Obama. It's almost as silly as liberals supporting Ron Paul.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: senseamp
Clinton and Obama have the same ideology. If you actually read the platforms, they are essentially the same.
So Obama shares the ideology of HRC? I don't think so, her ideology is "self-promotion".

Many political analysts disagree that they are similarly liberal. Many believe Obama more liberal.

But I beleive their styles, if Pres, would be strikingly different. HRC's claim to fame, aside from being married to Bill and a few scandals of her own, is Repub bashing. She's the most highly partisan candidate in this election.

Obama, OTOH, lacks that characteristic (at least so far). I suspect his style would be much much different than HRC.


They just have different ways of talking. It used to be a difference in what they said, until HRC "discovered" Obama's message and started using it for herself. So it is absolutely Hillarious to me that people, especially from the right, bash Clinton but support Obama. It's almost as silly as liberals supporting Ron Paul.

Fern

So what you are really saying is you hate Hillary and think that your hatred has something to do with reality?
 
Fern, what is scary is senseamp believes the last sentence to be a good asset. Like a feather you'd want in your cap. :laugh:

[senseamp:]
But I beleive their styles, if Pres, would be strikingly different. HRC's claim to fame, aside from being married to Bill and a few scandals of her own, is Repub bashing. She's the most highly partisan candidate in this election.
 
Absolutely, I do.
Like I said in the other thread, whoever wins this year will be a Liberal, even if it's a Republican (Thompson or Paul won't win). 😀
So now that I already feel secure about the ideology of our future president, I can focus on the extra credit of electing someone who will most piss off the Republicans. 🙂
See, it's no fun to just have one liberal like Obama vs another one like McCain or Romney in the election. Too generic for me. But Hillary brings up so many insecurities in the Republicans, electing her definitely gets my attention.
If Republicans cannot beat Hillary after channeling so much hate towards her, your party is a bunch of impotent losers. The humiliation of people like Pabster will be worth voting for Hillary. 😀 It will be icing on the cake for me.

 
Clinton and Obama have the same ideology. If you actually read the platforms, they are essentially the same. They just have different ways of talking. So it is absolutely Hillarious to me that people, especially from the right, bash Clinton but support Obama. It's almost as silly as liberals supporting Ron Paul.
Actually it makes perfect sense...the President of the United States does not write legislation...he/she does not, or at least isn't supposed to, serve the interests of lobbyists and special interests.

We expect the President to LEAD the country...to serve as our best foot forward on the international front...to challenge his/her party and the minority party to reach bipartisan agreement on legislation that is of benefit to the entire nation...to appoint impartial and non-partisan judges to the Supreme Court.

So it makes perfect sense that conservatives, frustrated with the NeoCon control of our party, could see Obama fill this role, and not Hillary.

Hillary, who believes in vast right wing conspiracies, failed at every political endeavor as First Lady, whose husband was targeted for impeachment by Republicans, and who has a sense of entitlement towards the Presidency

OR

Obama, a politician who is still wet behind the ears but speaks with a charisma and authority that is somewhat refreshing.

I don't find it Hillarious at all...I do find it hilarious that Democrats find any redeeming qualities in Hillary as a candidate...she is essentially the Democrat version of George W. Bush, just more articulate.
 
Originally posted by: senseamp
If Republicans cannot beat Hillary after channeling so much hate towards her, your party is a bunch of impotent losers. The humiliation of people like Pabster will be worth voting for Hillary. 😀 It will be icing on the cake for me.

Sounds an awful lot like "If Kerry can't beat Bush now, the Democrats are a bunch of losers."

And we know how that turned out :laugh:

Thanks for confirming that you're nothing but a partisan troll hack. :thumbsup:

 
That's another lie, she succeeded with SCHIP, many kids have health insurance thanks to her.
The fact that Republicans hate her makes me like her even more. Again, Republicans are irrelevant, your party had your chance and it blew it.
Hillary's main redeeming quality is that she will deny Republicans the last shred of dignity they can salvage from 2008, of at least not having it be Hillary Clinton.
Only Hillary can humiliate the GOP that thoroughly. That is why Republicans on this board are so desperate to see her beat, even though she is actually less liberal than the other Democrats running.
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: senseamp
If Republicans cannot beat Hillary after channeling so much hate towards her, your party is a bunch of impotent losers. The humiliation of people like Pabster will be worth voting for Hillary. 😀 It will be icing on the cake for me.

Sounds an awful lot like "If Kerry can't beat Bush now, the Democrats are a bunch of losers."

And we know how that turned out :laugh:

Thanks for confirming that you're nothing but a partisan troll hack. :thumbsup:

And in 2004, the Democrats were a bunch of losers. Your turn in 2008. 😀
 
Originally posted by: senseamp
That's another lie, she succeeded with SCHIP, many kids have health insurance thanks to her.

SCHIPS was passed in 1997 while the Repubs had control of Congress and Bill was suferring an extreme case of bimbo erruptions. Hillary wasn't even an elected official.

Her claiming credit for it is the lie.

Fern

 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: senseamp
That's another lie, she succeeded with SCHIP, many kids have health insurance thanks to her.

SCHIPS was passed in 1997 while the Repubs had control of Congress and Bill was suferring an extreme case of bimbo erruptions. Hillary wasn't even an elected official.

Her claiming credit for it is the lie.

Fern

QFT. Like most "claims" by Billary, the SCHIP one just doesn't stand up to scrutiny. She had about as much to do with SCHIP as I did. :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: senseamp
That's another lie, she succeeded with SCHIP, many kids have health insurance thanks to her.

SCHIPS was passed in 1997 while the Repubs had control of Congress and Bill was suferring an extreme case of bimbo erruptions. Hillary wasn't even an elected official.

Her claiming credit for it is the lie.

Fern

She lead the SCHIP taskforce. She worked to get that bill passed.
You can now resume your Clenis obsession, already in progress.
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Lemon law
At this point Pabster, I really really really recommend you find some means of stress relief.
Because spamming P&N ain't doing it for you and its boring most of us. Maybe you should seek psychiatric help for your obsessive compulsive behavior.

:laugh:

My stress is relieved each time Hillary is defeated. Tomorrow will be fun. :laugh:

You're gonna have to go on a Crow diet, I hear it's high in cholesterol. That's twice now. Keep predicting. I'm enjoying this.
 
Originally posted by: Pabster

:laugh:

My stress is relieved each time Hillary is defeated. Tomorrow will be fun. :laugh:

So... the news networks are all calling Nevada for Clinton. What is your next doom and gloom prediction?
 
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