Hilarious but true, cartoons.
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iran's accused of trying to develope nukes? israel has nukes so that makes it ok. nevermind that iran sponsors international terrorists. yasser arafat fails the palestinians once more. it's israel's fault.
those cartoons typify the problem of the arab world--every cartoon in the link was detracting attention away from an arab problem and towards israel.
those cartoons typify the problem of the arab world--every cartoon in the link was detracting attention away from an arab problem and towards israel.
very cool cartoons, thanks for the link
kaizersose,
ever think that maybe the west is wrong in this or even that there is no right or wrong in this?
kaizersose,
ever think that maybe the west is wrong in this or even that there is no right or wrong in this?
http://english.aljazeera.net/Structural+Postings/CartoonDisplayerPopUp.htm?idpage=4&idPageImage={94B707E6-C333-4914-B457-887FC386F669}
this one is great
http://english.aljazeera.net/Structural+Postings/CartoonDisplayerPopUp.htm?idpage=5&idPageImage={73CED687-3C0F-4257-B3CA-009A719EB308}
and this one
this one is great
http://english.aljazeera.net/Structural+Postings/CartoonDisplayerPopUp.htm?idpage=5&idPageImage={73CED687-3C0F-4257-B3CA-009A719EB308}
and this one
Miramonti
Lifer
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Originally posted by: Czar
http://english.aljazeera.net/Structural+Postings/CartoonDisplayerPopUp.htm?idpage=4&idPageImage={94B707E6-C333-4914-B457-887FC386F669} this one is great
haha
now you better run before john ashcroft nails you for linking them. :Q
and he'll have the patriot act modified to cover iceland if necessary.
Interesting cartoons!
Always a good thing to look at both sides of the coin. I started to do more research on the jewish/arab confliced when i met some individuals that were victims of the house demolitions that take place in israel/occupied lands.
Also is a good idea to remember what the word terrorism means; and according to Webste's II, :
terrorism is the Systematic use of terror and intimidation, especially to coerce.
All these worldly conflicts going on, when taken to an individual level, are all terrorism indeed. And both sides of the coin are well involved in these terrorists acts, so of course, we all become fanatics rooting for one side or the other, trying to find a just cause to all the nonsense that goes in this peaceful world.
iran sponsors hezbollah, a group which has commited many bombings and artillery attacks inside israel. iran also sent a ship full of weapons (search "karin a") including RPG's meant for palestinians terrorists this past year but it was intercepted.
now back up your claim.
lozina
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Terrorism, as laFiera correctly pointed out, is use of terror and intimidation, especially to coerce. Israel blatantly terrorises Palestinians by bulldozing homes. The use of such over-the-top methods to "assassinate" Hamas leaders using missiles fired from helicopeters is also extremely intimidating and terrorising. Especially since they usually kill and injure countless innocent civilians in the process.
Israel also has ties to the Stern Gang and Irgun. Menachem Begin, a leader of Irgun later became prime minister of Israel.
I noticed you ignored the fact Israel lied and deceived its way to building nukes, and continues to thwart attempts to get inspected.
by that definition, any war is terrorism because it's intimidating. killing a terrorist is not terrorism. bulldozing terrorist houses is not terrorism. do not equivilate those with blowing up a bus or a restaurant. does israel make mistakes? yes, but not on purpose. they have a very modern air force, if they really wanted to terrorize palestinian bystantanders, they could drop huge bombs all over the west bank.
the irgun has not been around since before 1948 and even then, they were condemned by mainstream israeli's who helped to stop them.
israel has nukes. everyone knows that but think about this. if israel lets the IEAE in to inspect them, everyone will know where israel keeps them, including the many terrorists surrounding israel. if even one of those weapons were to be compromised, the consequences would be unthinkable.
lozina
Lifer
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bulldozing terrorist houses? Well I guesss every Palestinian is a terrorist then! That explains it.
They have used their modern air force too, F16s were used to terrorize Palestinians as well. And why wouldn't they go all out and drop bombs all over? Because that would produce a huge international backlash. If they do more subtle acts, like bomb a "suspected" terrorist in the middle of a crowded street killing innocent civilians, it both terrorizes and gives the Israelis an excuse SOME people would accept.
If you are arguing IDF are not terrorists for those reasons, why do you label Hezbollah as terrorists? They are more or less freedom fighters aren't they?
it goes to show you what kind of leaders israel accepts. That tradition continued with Ariel Sharon, a suspected International war criminal for his responsibility to the Lebanon massacre. And how many years is this threshhold by which history becomes irrelevent? I always wish I knew this because it seems to change day by day depending on what people are disputing.
Why couldn't any other country use that same reason (national security) to reject IEAE inspections? And you're suggesting the IEAE are spies which will leak info to other countries about what they find? More the reason anyone else should reject them as well
I don't give a crap what the U.S says. The Israel army are terrorist. Not to say the Palestinians aren't. You all have not lived in Israel so STFU. If you honestly think it is a one way thing then you are an idiot. Try going to Israel and saying you are Arab. You will be kicked out of every restaurant you go to and people will spit on you. Think I am wrong? Ask anyone who lives in Israel right now.
I recommend you all read this book:
Arab and Jew by David K. Shipler
It gives an accurate account from both sides.
I recommend you all read this book:
Arab and Jew by David K. Shipler
It gives an accurate account from both sides.
many palestinians still live and work in israel and i have talked at length with friends who live in tel aviv. i cannot say for certain, but he did not seem to harbor ill wishes for palestinians. i think many israeli's genuinly feel bad for the common palestinian, but they feel that the situation is so bad because of poor palestinian leadership. they dont like their troops having to go arrest terrorists because it is dangerous for them and is used as propaganda to incite more terror, but no one has a better solution at this point. most israeli's feel there is no legitimate negotiating partner who honestly is willing and has the capapbility to broker peace.
side note: what do you think would happen you went to any arab country and declared you were jewish?
Forget Palestinians, Israeli Arabs are treated as second class citizens in Israel, and they are Israelis. Sure some Israelis feel bad for the plight of the Palestinians, but obviously not enough to stop the actions of people like Sharon and others in the Knesset who propose extreame anti-Arab measures. And as bad as Israelis might feel, it is not enough for them to rally enough support to deal with issues like stopping settlement expansion and dismantling settlements or other things they are supposed to confront in regards to the road map. The problem is the Israelis have an excuse: Arafat. Anytime something happens, its Arafat's fault. Toilet stop working, its Arafat's fault. Nevermind that Israel destroyed practically all of the Palestinian security service infrastructure or that they demand unilateral Palestinian action before they are ready to do anything. Forget the fact that even a PA that bended to every Israeli need would not have the firepower to take on Hamas, IJ etc without starting a bloody civil war. Until Arafat is dead and someone who will bend over backwards to their demands takes power, there will be no "progress" in the conflict. There will never be someone who will have the capability to broker peace b/c Israel will not reciprocate any actions he or she takes. Perfect example was Abbas. What did Israel give him as ammunition to win people from the side of Hamas et al? Dismantle 3 or 4 uninhabited outposts which were quickly replaced by 11 or 12? Go on a spree of unsuccessful "pin point" killing missions that killed more bystanders than terrorists? Point is, it is not in Israel's best interest to make peace with the PALS for the simple reason that the costs of having a viable Palestinian state exceed the costs of living with the status quo, even with the occasional suicide bombing.
On your side note, ask Thomas L Friedman. He goes all over the ME, everyone knows he's Jewish and he doesn't seem to have such a bad time. Many of my Jewish friends have been to the ME, they have all enjoyed it and the concensus is that Dubai is the coolest place in the area.
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