HIIT + commuting by bike?

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Ns1

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So I commute 3 miles each way to work on bike. I have long stretches of road where there are no stoplights. It takes me about 15-20 minutes each way, which IIRC is about the time required for a HIIT workout.

I'm looking to increase my exercise/activity level a bit, and in my head I figured why not combine HIIT training + commuting.

I have a shower when I arrive at work and shower when I get home anyway, so sweating and shit is not a concern.

Am I missing anything, or is this a "good enough" idea?

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An alternative regimen based on a 2009 study[7] uses 60 seconds of intense exercise (at 95% of VO2max) followed by 75 seconds of rest, repeated for 8–12 cycles. Subjects using this method trained 3 times per week, and obtained gains similar to what would be expected from subjects who did steady state (50–70% VO2max) training five times per week. While still a demanding form of training, this exercise protocol could be used by the general public with nothing more than an average exercise bike.
 
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preslove

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Depends on your route and how safe it is for cyclists. Have you actually done this commute by bike, or are you basing that time on other 3 mile bike rides? You might want to ease in on the reps during the morning ride, as there is a line when exercising too much makes you really tired instead of energized.
 

Ns1

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Depends on your route and how safe it is for cyclists. Have you actually done this commute by bike, or are you basing that time on other 3 mile bike rides? You might want to ease in on the reps during the morning ride, as there is a line when exercising too much makes you really tired instead of energized.

I've been commuting this way for over 6 months.
 

_Rick_

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I've got a 6 mile ride each way, with plenty of red lights (crossing downtown) in the first half, and then none (following the river) for the second half.
This has me doing intervals at the start, then an intermediate sprint (road with 7 or so lights in a row - as long as they're green I'm going for it. Should be some 500 meters long or so. Usually one stop somewhere along the way.
And then some flat riding towards the end, with a medium steep bridge to finish me off.

Not sure if it does anything besides getting me sweaty, but I have fun riding fast and hard, so I'm not complaining.

In your position I would look to find a less direct route, and aim for around 10 miles, with around 4 miles intervals, and then 6 miles in TT mode.

Make sure your bike is in perfect condition (tires, frame, pedals, pedal arms, chain links, brakes, wheels, fork etc. etc. etc.) - a component failure during a sprint will almost certainly lead to a spill, which at 30-40 mph (I suppose you wouldn't ask this question if you hit 50 on sprints ;)) is going to be...fairly uncomfortable. Check for helmet and high vis gear. Spandex is optional, but makes the ride more comfortable, as the functional textiles will help keep you dry-ish.

A final note: 3 miles will not take 20 minutes, if you're doing high intensity sprints. Maybe 15, but normally it should be doable in around 10 minutes.
 

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If that route is safe and given you have showers at work, sounds like a perfect time to get a workout in. You don't want to be doing HIIT twice a day, every day though as that will lead to over training.
 

Ns1

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In your position I would look to find a less direct route, and aim for around 10 miles, with around 4 miles intervals, and then 6 miles in TT mode.
I've been meaning to do this...my work is actually right next to one of the largest parks in LA, and next to the LA river/bike path...I just don't have the time to do this (yet).


Make sure your bike is in perfect condition (tires, frame, pedals, pedal arms, chain links, brakes, wheels, fork etc. etc. etc.) - a component failure during a sprint will almost certainly lead to a spill, which at 30-40 mph (I suppose you wouldn't ask this question if you hit 50 on sprints ;)) is going to be...fairly uncomfortable. Check for helmet and high vis gear. Spandex is optional, but makes the ride more comfortable, as the functional textiles will help keep you dry-ish.
30-40mph? I'm on a loaded bianchi hybrid. I'm not reaching anything near that.

If that route is safe and given you have showers at work, sounds like a perfect time to get a workout in. You don't want to be doing HIIT twice a day, every day though as that will lead to over training.
thanks, a good point.

comments above, thanks all.

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What are training zones?

Training zones are different levels of exertion designed to improve your fitness. What you might not realise is that it’s Zone 1, the easiest level, and not flat-out Zone 3 where you should be spending most of your ride time.
How are the training zones defined?

Zone 1: This is the endurance base from 60% of your maximum heart rate to around 78-80%. This zone builds endurance, the economical use of fats and carbohydrates for fuel and allows good technique to be practised. You'll want to spend up to 80% of your time here.

Zone 2: Where pace is moderately hard, where lactate is created from an increased use of carbohydrate but it is not hard enough to cause fatigue suddenly. This zone occurs around 79-89% of your maximum heart rate and it helps athletes judge pace, convert lactate and move at higher velocities. Aim for around 10-12% of your weekly workouts here.

Zone 3: The high intensity lactate accumulation zone is above 89-90% of your maximum heart rate. This is peak effort stuff that hurts. It provides a maximal stimulus that is, or simulates, competition or above competition pace. Spend no more than 10% of your training time here.
How to work out your maximum heart rate

To make sure you ride in the right zone, you’ll need to work out your max heart rate.

Time trial effort varies between riders but it is approximately 88-91% of your maximum heart rate for a 10-mile tiem trial, and 85-88% for a 25-miler.

To get an estimate of your maximum heart rate, you need to divide your average heart rate over 10 miles, eg 165, by 0.88 and 0.91 (187.5 and 181) and do the same for your 25-mile tiem trial average, eg 160, using 0.85 and 0.88 (188 and 181).

The average maximum heart rate of all four figures is 184, and this can then be used to calculate your three training zones:

Zone 1: less than 78-80% of your maximum heart rate (<147)
Zone 2: 80-88% of your maximum heart rate (149-160).
Zone 3: above 88-90% of your maximum heart rate (>161)

How does this apply to me? I&#8217;m not a time trial specialist!

Yes, it sounds too good to be true: ride slowly to go faster. But a recent study has added support to sports scientists&#8217; claims that spending more time exercising comfortably, rather than eyeballs-out, delivers the best results.

Researchers at The European University in Madrid spent &#64257;ve months studying endurance athletes and found that those who did 80% of their training in Zone 1 and only 10% in Zone 2 improved times over a set distance by 36 seconds more than those spending 65% of their training time in Zone 1 and 24% in Zone 2. Both groups did around 8% of their weekly time in the top end Zone 3.

All the athletes, whatever their Z1, 2 or 3 proportions, got faster over the &#64257;ve months, but the group training smarter (less effort with more precise Z1 work) got 6.9% better, while the overzealous athletes got 5.3% better. Would you not like to get 1.6% faster but do fewer work wasted sessions?
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&#8220;Our data suggest that an older concept of &#8216;junk miles&#8217; applies not to relatively low-intensity training but to moderately high-intensity training,&#8221; said the researchers. It makes sense: moderately hard training is dif&#64257;cult to recover from, but not hard enough to stimulate further adaptation.

Of course, the study isn&#8217;t saying that simply pootling about will turn you into Mark Cavendish. You will still need to push yourself well out of your comfort zone from time to time and you can&#8217;t wave goodbye to hill reps and sprints just yet. But if you&#8217;re serious about improving your time-trial best or bagging a sportive personal best, make sure that you&#8217;re spending enough time in Zone 1 between the harder sessions. ...

All you need to do now is to strap on a heart rate monitor and &#64257;nd your comfort zone!
 
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superccs

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I find that teh 30s (low intensity) 20s (medium intesity) 10s (high intensity) system works pretty well on my 3 mile/30 minute jogs.
 
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Typically, if you're going to go for 60s hard, you need more like 2min of rest. Either way, that sounds like a good idea, if you're into it. As many have said, be safe and aware. Your safety comes first before your fitness.
 

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Bear in mind that you may need to extend the ride a little bit to allow some extra time to warm up. I don't think heading straight into intervals is such a good idea - you may end up getting injured.

Intervals are a pretty convenient way to deal with stop streets / lights when ride. Stop at the light for a rest and then do a hard sprint to get moving again.
 

_Rick_

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Oh, and also make sure you have gears that actually peg you at sufficient wattage in the flat.

I'm pretty happy with 50-15, but on a sloppier frame and not on the drops I guess 50-18 to 50-20 will be enough to make sure you cough blood at the end of the straight.

And seconded on warm-up and stretching before committing to abrupt accelerations.
 

Ns1

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Bear in mind that you may need to extend the ride a little bit to allow some extra time to warm up. I don't think heading straight into intervals is such a good idea - you may end up getting injured.

Intervals are a pretty convenient way to deal with stop streets / lights when ride. Stop at the light for a rest and then do a hard sprint to get moving again.

Another good point, thanks.

Oh, and also make sure you have gears that actually peg you at sufficient wattage in the flat.

I'm pretty happy with 50-15, but on a sloppier frame and not on the drops I guess 50-18 to 50-20 will be enough to make sure you cough blood at the end of the straight.

I don't even know what this means.
 
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