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Highway Patrol Chokes Ambulance Driver On Tape
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SSSnail
Lifer
Clip of video as I saw it:
1. Cops was running hot, came up on the ambulance wasn't running hot as the ambulance's lights weren't on.
2. Ambulance continue to drive for a bit before moving over to the side.
3. Cops came to the scene of incident they were originally headed to, appears other units arrived already, so cops got back on the road.
4. Cops continues on the road to pull the ambulance over as it's still running normal.
5. Cops wants to talk to driver, the medic in the back jumped out and started lipping with the state troopers.
6. Arguments ensued for about 5 minutes, cops explained to the ambulance driver he wasn't running code, and that he should pull over, he appeared to understand.
7. Outcome everybody with their cell phone cameras.
8. Some more pushing and shoving, everybody went on their merry ways.
1. Cops was running hot, came up on the ambulance wasn't running hot as the ambulance's lights weren't on.
2. Ambulance continue to drive for a bit before moving over to the side.
3. Cops came to the scene of incident they were originally headed to, appears other units arrived already, so cops got back on the road.
4. Cops continues on the road to pull the ambulance over as it's still running normal.
5. Cops wants to talk to driver, the medic in the back jumped out and started lipping with the state troopers.
6. Arguments ensued for about 5 minutes, cops explained to the ambulance driver he wasn't running code, and that he should pull over, he appeared to understand.
7. Outcome everybody with their cell phone cameras.
8. Some more pushing and shoving, everybody went on their merry ways.
BabaBooey
Lifer
Officials say OHP troopers became upset after the paramedic failed to yield while the troopers were rushing to a call of their own.
So they stopped to harrass / bitch at the medics ?
Regardless,when the trooper grabbed his arm to cuff him he should not have yanked away and pushed the trooper,that was his mistake but that was arrogant of the troopers to do that to begin with and with a patient in the rear,come on guys.
So they stopped to harrass / bitch at the medics ?
Regardless,when the trooper grabbed his arm to cuff him he should not have yanked away and pushed the trooper,that was his mistake but that was arrogant of the troopers to do that to begin with and with a patient in the rear,come on guys.
Cop running hot and tailgated the ambulance and the ambulance driver gave the trooper the finger when the trooper passed him.
Ambulance run on for 9-10 seconds before it start to pull over (it was unsafe to pull over immediately and it may take the ambulance driver a few seconds to realize were the cop were), which IMHO is well with in reason.
You forgot to mention that cop drove down the road at unnecessary high speed with out the siren on to catch up to the ambulance, and IMHO it was unnecessary for copper to look for the ambulance or to hassle the driver.
Medic in the back came out to talk to the trooper, and indicated that is attendant in charge to talk to the cop.
IMHO, the cop should find another career if he loses his temper over little things like this incident.
smack Down
Diamond Member
I think he did it because he is an unstable nut case with a gun.
Capt Caveman
Lifer
😕 No one was arrested.
SSSnail
Lifer
Uh no, it wasn't just the finger. If you watched the complete video with a clear conscience, you'll see why the ambulance driver was wrong. But, don't let hatred blind your judgment though.
Edit: And quit editing your post to inject your conjectures into it to make it seems right.
Precog edit: You're just hating on the cops because it's the "cool" thing to do.
Pre-emptive edit: The ambulance driver had plenty of time to pull over but didn't and continued on, and think it's his given right to block the road. THEN proceed to flip the cop when he passed. You're wrong. End of discussion.
Nik
Lifer
There is absolutely no reason for an officer to detain an ambulance from taking the patient to the hospital. There is no reason for an officer to assault an EMT who isn't being arrested or detained.
The officer is clearly on a power trip and clearly in the wrong.
I'm not sure what sort of law enforcement office you're programmed to ass-kiss, but you're wrong. Plain and simple.
SSSnail
Lifer
No nik, you're wrong. I'm just not an unruly teenager full of hate.
Anyways, as far as that cop was concerned, the ambulance was just another car on the street, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T RUN HOT. So stop this stupid argument. There weren't any indications that the ambulance HAD a patient INSIDE the vehicle until it was stopped. I know you're not a teenager, so quit this rebellious attitude, it's not "cool", really.
From the Dash Cam - there is a car on the shoulder that the ambulance passes. It's hard to tell from the video if that car was pulling over or if the car was parked (as mentioned in the news article) or already moving slowly. If the latter, then the ambulance probably could not have made a safe stop by pulling over as soon as the cop car came up on him, which justifies the ambulance driver's failure to yield quickly.
I couldn't tell from the Dash Cam if the ambulance driver (white guy) flipped off the cop. Irrelevant anyway - the cop clearly handled the situation poorly from the start. He started yelling and swearing right away. He made it abundantly clear that Failure to Yield was just an excuse to nail the guy who gave him the finger.
I like how the bird poop on the windshield obscures most of the early action 😀 Wonder if it was photochopped in?
EDIT: The cop car initially came up on the ambulance VERY quickly. There was also a curve in the road. I don't know if the ambulance driver would have had sufficient warning to pull over before the cop came up on his tail.
I couldn't tell from the Dash Cam if the ambulance driver (white guy) flipped off the cop. Irrelevant anyway - the cop clearly handled the situation poorly from the start. He started yelling and swearing right away. He made it abundantly clear that Failure to Yield was just an excuse to nail the guy who gave him the finger.
I like how the bird poop on the windshield obscures most of the early action 😀 Wonder if it was photochopped in?
EDIT: The cop car initially came up on the ambulance VERY quickly. There was also a curve in the road. I don't know if the ambulance driver would have had sufficient warning to pull over before the cop came up on his tail.
imagine what an asshole the average person on the street is
imagine if someone gave that person a badge
letssee.. if i was a bright, promising, intelligent young student, would i rather a) go through 4+ years of college and pursue a professional job or B) slack off for 2 years in community college and then troll around in a uniform and patrol car...
imagine if someone gave that person a badge
letssee.. if i was a bright, promising, intelligent young student, would i rather a) go through 4+ years of college and pursue a professional job or B) slack off for 2 years in community college and then troll around in a uniform and patrol car...
I watched the dash cam video and it looked to me like the ambulance moved over as soon as they safely could(and ambulance is not some little car that can stop on a dime it is a big truck plus they have a patient in the back that they have to watch out for) don't know whether the driver gave the finger or not but he could have just been waving the car on.
The guy in back got out because he is the SENIOR officer on the ambulance and had every right to exit to talk to the officer (guess what EMT are also emergency employees just like the LEO they also have rights and responsibilities) he was calm and rational (as opposed to the officer who was aggressive and belligerent)and let the officer know they had a patient in the back at that point the discussion should have been over the officer should have let the ambulance continue on and if he had an issue handle it ADMINISTRATIVELY let his boss talk to their boss.
But see they were guilty of the worst crime ever(at lest to some LEO's) contempt of cop.
Guy needs to be off the street. Out of respect for his service to his country let him ride a desk for a while but he needs to stay off the street for now and go into counseling and training.
The guy in back got out because he is the SENIOR officer on the ambulance and had every right to exit to talk to the officer (guess what EMT are also emergency employees just like the LEO they also have rights and responsibilities) he was calm and rational (as opposed to the officer who was aggressive and belligerent)and let the officer know they had a patient in the back at that point the discussion should have been over the officer should have let the ambulance continue on and if he had an issue handle it ADMINISTRATIVELY let his boss talk to their boss.
But see they were guilty of the worst crime ever(at lest to some LEO's) contempt of cop.
Guy needs to be off the street. Out of respect for his service to his country let him ride a desk for a while but he needs to stay off the street for now and go into counseling and training.
SSSnail
Lifer
Oh please, quit with the ridiculous posturings and conjectures.
Fact - the ambulance had plenty of time to pull over. A car IN FRONT of it pulled over before the ambulance did. That would make the ambulance driver oblivious to the road conditions, or was he?
Fact - the ambulance wasn't running hot
Fact - it took 30 seconds for the patrol car to catch up to the ambulance, quit with the "OH HE CHASED HIM DOWN" semantics.
Fact - the medic was supposed to stay with the patient. The state trooper was addressing the driver.
Fact - the medic was ordered back inside his cabin, where he should have been. He disobeyed.
Fact - You don't know shit about what EMTs can and cannot do, quit talking like you do.
Fact - You don't know what belligerent means.
Now, argue the facts.
Fact - the ambulance had plenty of time to pull over. A car IN FRONT of it pulled over before the ambulance did. That would make the ambulance driver oblivious to the road conditions, or was he?
Fact - the ambulance wasn't running hot
Fact - it took 30 seconds for the patrol car to catch up to the ambulance, quit with the "OH HE CHASED HIM DOWN" semantics.
Fact - the medic was supposed to stay with the patient. The state trooper was addressing the driver.
Fact - the medic was ordered back inside his cabin, where he should have been. He disobeyed.
Fact - You don't know shit about what EMTs can and cannot do, quit talking like you do.
Fact - You don't know what belligerent means.
Now, argue the facts.
manowar821
Diamond Member
Fucking cop should back off and let the guy drive the patient to the hospital. The dick waving can wait, holy shit.
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