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Highway Patrol Chokes Ambulance Driver On Tape

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Originally posted by: DayLaPaul
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Citrix
Officials say OHP troopers became upset after the paramedic failed to yield while the troopers were rushing to a call of their own.

so my gist of this is the ambulance was not running code with the patient in the back with a non life threating complaint and did not yield to the highway patrol who were running code and insanity ensues.

ok then yah that would make sense. if the cop was running with lights and the ambulance was not. then the ambulance should h ave given right of way.

then add that the guy faught with him yeah he deserved it.

though the cop should have waited until they dropped off the patient then busted the driver. but hopefully the cop don't get in trouble.

It still doesn't make sense as even if this happened. That call they were responding must not of been very important after all if they had time to assault the driver.

cops have the legal authority to assalt you in the line of their duty.

again we dont know the whole story. if the patient was in urgent need of medical care the ambulance would have been running code and would not have stopped for a highway patrol trooper.

im leaning towards that the paramedics wanted to pick a fight with the cops (for whatever reason) and lost.

Quiksilver writes perhaps the most insightful comment in the whole thread and all you want to do is argue semantics over his use of the word "assault."

Bottom line is these cops just decided to flex their authoritay, which they have every right to do. But the fact remains, that call must have not been very important if they stopped everything they were doing in order to flex on some ambulance driver.

Watch the full video, the alleged assault against the officer happens when they try to arrest the medic who is trying to check on his screaming patient. They then choke him and scream some more and finally let him check on the patient.
 
Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Sigh... more idiotic shit from cops.

The fight happened during an emergency call when a patient waiting to be taken to the local hospital was in the back of the ambulance.

...

The video was shot by the patient's son. He says he continually asked the troopers to stop, so his mom could be taken to the hospital.

"We're like telling this dude. 'Man, my mom is in the back.' My step-dad was like 'man my wife is in the back, can we do this at the hospital,'" said Kenyada Davis.

...

So, a persons life or well being apparently ranks lower than HP responding to call...

Edit.
Seems I needed to buy an 'h' for the title.

No choking occurred. Fix your title.
 
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Arkaign
If a cop was impeding an ambulance from taking my son or other loved one to the ER, and was in dire need of medical attention, I wouldn't think twice about using my concealed carry to put several .50AE slugs into his fat skull.

You conceal carry a Desert Eagle? How the hell does one do that?

Thigh holster, tons of space near the non-existant wang he's compensating for by carrying a DE.

Sorry, don't really mean to insult the poster, just the theory of carrying a DE .. why.. just why would you carry that concealed? There are so many firearms with similar stopping power that are infinitely easier to conceal/carry.

As for the OP, absurd situation.
 
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Sigh... more idiotic shit from cops.

The fight happened during an emergency call when a patient waiting to be taken to the local hospital was in the back of the ambulance.

...

The video was shot by the patient's son. He says he continually asked the troopers to stop, so his mom could be taken to the hospital.

"We're like telling this dude. 'Man, my mom is in the back.' My step-dad was like 'man my wife is in the back, can we do this at the hospital,'" said Kenyada Davis.

...

So, a persons life or well being apparently ranks lower than HP responding to call...

Edit.
Seems I needed to buy an 'h' for the title.

No choking occurred. Fix your title.

you not watch the video? there was most def choking. When he finally let go the guy was gasping for air.
 
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Arkaign
If a cop was impeding an ambulance from taking my son or other loved one to the ER, and was in dire need of medical attention, I wouldn't think twice about using my concealed carry to put several .50AE slugs into his fat skull.

You conceal carry a Desert Eagle? How the hell does one do that?

Thigh holster, tons of space near the non-existant wang he's compensating for by carrying a DE.

Sorry, don't really mean to insult the poster, just the theory of carrying a DE .. why.. just why would you carry that concealed? There are so many firearms with similar stopping power that are infinitely easier to conceal/carry.

As for the OP, absurd situation.

Agreed. The DE is pretty much just for show, I have a lot of military buddies that collect guns and we go to the ranges. I do CC it once in a while, mostly in winter, but I really prefer carrying the Sigma. And no thigh holster, I very much prefer shoulder holsters. If I'm standing with my arms at a relaxed angle while wearing a decent jacket or coat, the .50 is not readily seen. The Sigma OTOH, is a whole lot more manageable in every way.
 
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Arkaign
If a cop was impeding an ambulance from taking my son or other loved one to the ER, and was in dire need of medical attention, I wouldn't think twice about using my concealed carry to put several .50AE slugs into his fat skull.

You conceal carry a Desert Eagle? How the hell does one do that?

Thigh holster, tons of space near the non-existant wang he's compensating for by carrying a DE.

Sorry, don't really mean to insult the poster, just the theory of carrying a DE .. why.. just why would you carry that concealed? There are so many firearms with similar stopping power that are infinitely easier to conceal/carry.

As for the OP, absurd situation.

Agreed. The DE is pretty much just for show, I have a lot of military buddies that collect guns and we go to the ranges. I do CC it once in a while, mostly in winter, but I really prefer carrying the Sigma. And no thigh holster, I very much prefer shoulder holsters. If I'm standing with my arms at a relaxed angle while wearing a decent jacket or coat, the .50 is not readily seen. The Sigma OTOH, is a whole lot more manageable in every way.


I love the DE for show, it's a beautiful piece of equippment. I just couldn't imagine carrying one, even in a shoulder holster.. well, perhaps in the winter if I could wear it under a jacket.
 
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Arkaign
If a cop was impeding an ambulance from taking my son or other loved one to the ER, and was in dire need of medical attention, I wouldn't think twice about using my concealed carry to put several .50AE slugs into his fat skull.

yea sure you would tough guy... im sure your son would appreciate it when he sees the needle go into your arm at midnight and hear your last words.

Well, better me than him for god damned sure. I'd trade my life in a second for his. It's a ludicrously unlikely situation anyway, I'm just saying I think most people would be angry enough to attack someone who was putting one of their family member's lives at risk by needless delays.

I'm not sure if any sane jury would convict a guy for murder and sentence him/her to death if this situation were to occur.
 
Oh god..here we go again. The flurry of "Cops are dicks" threads. Though..I don't agree with the cops but news and threads about this subject seem to pop up like the plague then are gone..then pop again, then are..
 
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Sigh... more idiotic shit from cops.

The fight happened during an emergency call when a patient waiting to be taken to the local hospital was in the back of the ambulance.

...

The video was shot by the patient's son. He says he continually asked the troopers to stop, so his mom could be taken to the hospital.

"We're like telling this dude. 'Man, my mom is in the back.' My step-dad was like 'man my wife is in the back, can we do this at the hospital,'" said Kenyada Davis.

...

So, a persons life or well being apparently ranks lower than HP responding to call...

Edit.
Seems I needed to buy an 'h' for the title.

No choking occurred. Fix your title.

you not watch the video? there was most def choking. When he finally let go the guy was gasping for air.

You're kidding right? Look at the guys hands, they're loose around the guys neck. The paramedics expression is the same before, during and after. Wow, you can't tell the difference between restraining and choking.
 
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
You're kidding right? Look at the guys hands, they're loose around the guys neck. The paramedics expression is the same before, during and after. Wow, you can't tell the difference between restraining and choking.

I could only imagine what he'd say if he saw a baton deployed...
 
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Sigh... more idiotic shit from cops.

The fight happened during an emergency call when a patient waiting to be taken to the local hospital was in the back of the ambulance.

...

The video was shot by the patient's son. He says he continually asked the troopers to stop, so his mom could be taken to the hospital.

"We're like telling this dude. 'Man, my mom is in the back.' My step-dad was like 'man my wife is in the back, can we do this at the hospital,'" said Kenyada Davis.

...

So, a persons life or well being apparently ranks lower than HP responding to call...

Edit.
Seems I needed to buy an 'h' for the title.

No choking occurred. Fix your title.

you not watch the video? there was most def choking. When he finally let go the guy was gasping for air.

You're kidding right? Look at the guys hands, they're loose around the guys neck. The paramedics expression is the same before, during and after. Wow, you can't tell the difference between restraining and choking.

Did you watch the video in the OP or full one? Longer Video: Click Me

I'm not saying he was intentionally choking him, but the man does point to his neck and breathe heavy when the officer lets go.
 
Originally posted by: reallyfull
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Sigh... more idiotic shit from cops.

The fight happened during an emergency call when a patient waiting to be taken to the local hospital was in the back of the ambulance.

...

The video was shot by the patient's son. He says he continually asked the troopers to stop, so his mom could be taken to the hospital.

"We're like telling this dude. 'Man, my mom is in the back.' My step-dad was like 'man my wife is in the back, can we do this at the hospital,'" said Kenyada Davis.

...

So, a persons life or well being apparently ranks lower than HP responding to call...

Edit.
Seems I needed to buy an 'h' for the title.

No choking occurred. Fix your title.

you not watch the video? there was most def choking. When he finally let go the guy was gasping for air.

You're kidding right? Look at the guys hands, they're loose around the guys neck. The paramedics expression is the same before, during and after. Wow, you can't tell the difference between restraining and choking.

Did you watch the video in the OP or full one? Longer Video: Click Me

I'm not saying he was choking him, but the man does point to his neck and breathe heavy when the officer lets go.

And look at his hand and fingers, they're completely relaxed and straight. Unless, the cop is gouging his neck with his thumb(which no one can tell), the guy is holding the guy back by controlling his head by holding his hand against his neck, restraining him and not choking him. Heck, the paramedic is even speaking with the cops hands against his neck.
 
I don't know how it is in OK, but here in Ohio all municipal EMS is required by law to run hot from base to the scene and from scene to the hospital when responding to a 911 call. I can't tell if they're municipal or private. I work for a private ambulance service, even running hot we have to yield at all intersections and proceed when clear. The only exception is Rural Metro Ambulance since they do 911 nursing home calls and have the proper gear to change signal lights. If we're not running hot, we do not run intersections and we yield to anything else running hot.

As far as the medic that got a hand around his throat, he's in some serious shit. He abandoned his patient. You never, NEVER leave your patient like that. That was one of the first things they taught us in basic, never leave your patient unattended. Anyway, the cops overreacted and the medic driving screwed up, but not as much as the other medic tending to the patient. Everyone is pretty much at fault for something from that video.
 
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I wonder what would of happened if the ambulance driver was white. Bet he would of never been stopped. Stupid racist pricks.

Ambulance driver was white. The black paramedic was in the back of the ambulance with the patient.
 
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I wonder what would of happened if the ambulance driver was white. Bet he would of never been stopped. Stupid racist pricks.

yeah thats why got attacked. the cop seen into teh ambulance adn seen the paramedic was black. then decided to pull him over and beat him up.


its not the fact the driver of the ambulance cut him off then when the officer went to grab him he yanked his arm away and turned. nope not that.

 
1> There were no "Ambulance Drivers" there. There were 2 Paramedics and one was driving.

2> No one abandoned a patient. He stepped out of the side door. Abandonment would entail leaving the patient. Agreed, he should have stayed in the back.

3> Is the ambulance is transporting non-emergent, they yield right of way to those driving emergent.

4> The back up call might have been resolved and the officers might have returned. Then again, maybe they couldn't get around the ambulance due to on comming traffic, etc.

5> No one here has the entire story.
 
I have yet to meet a cop that wasn't a complete douchebag with short man syndrome. When I was 15 I was practicing my motorcycle skills out in the middle of nowhere on some non paved country roads 5 miles away from any kind of civilization. A cop happened to cross my path and pulled me over for not having a license plate (it's a dirtbike, duh). He called backup, two motorcycle cops and one additional regular trooper. After 2 hours of these guys BS-ing and running my info through their computers and me sitting patiently on the dirt they came to the conclusion that the best course of action was to impounded my bike and leave me out there in the middle of nowhere without a phone call or ride to the city as the sun began to set. My parents were thrilled about that one.

At around the same time my two brothers who were 12 and 14 at the time were shooting tin cans with BB guns and air soft guns in the middle of a field that was at least 500 acres. Out of nowhere dozens of cops swooped in, slammed them to the ground and held combat shotguns to their heads at point blank range, followed by hours of interrogation. Both these incidents were over 10 years ago and this one traumatized my brothers for years.

You can't make this stuff up, folks. /me waits for the "you deserved it" crowd.

I love how the increase of technology and ease to film these incidents with cell phones really helps bring this kind of BS to light.
 
On the flip side Alienwho, a cop caught us out at an abandoned construction site because of reports of gunshots. He had us empty our pockets. We had thundersticks (illegal version of roman candles), bottle rockets and a bunch of other stuff. Basically fireworks we shouldn't legally be able to acquire. Once he realized what the source of the problem is, he let us keep all our shit, just took our lighters and told us to keep it down for awhile then left. He could have done a lot worse.

We also were woken up by firemen once because a fire was reported. It was our campfire. They woke us up because they wanted to know what the hell we had put in the fire because they couldn't extinguish it. I don't recall everything we threw into that fire, it had like every flammable substance we could put in it. After they finally managed to extinguish it they took down our names and let us go.

We always had bb guns, paintball guns, gun powder, fireworks and other stuff on us in every encounter. I guess we lucked out.
 
Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: Arkaign
If a cop was impeding an ambulance from taking my son or other loved one to the ER, and was in dire need of medical attention, I wouldn't think twice about using my concealed carry to put several .50AE slugs into his fat skull.

how you gonna conceal a gun that fires .50AE?

COD4 FTW?
 
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I would have thought the ambulance should have right of way when they have a patient in the back.

Are you kidding? It's far more important for a cop to nail someone going 11 miles over the speed limit than it is to get someone with life-endangering injuries to the hospital.
 
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