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High temp: -32F, Low -44F ! ! ! Where are the global warming freaks?

Global warming and global cooling are both interdependent and cyclical.

There are also other factors that seem to spur global temperature changes like a lack of sunspots. When the Sun goes into a calm mode, like it is now, it's solar output decreases enough to effect temperature changes even as far away as on Mars. The last little ice age that occurred during the middle ages also was during a period of lowered solar output and few sunspots. And we know this because a few scientists were actually tracking the sunspot activity during that time.

Not by fire, but by ICE! The next ice age - NOW!

 
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15F here this morning. Likely we lost all four citrus trees (grapefruit, lemon, lime, calamansi), a saguaro, several other cacti, and a couple strawberry pots filled with succulents.

The water line to the house froze last night so we had to wrap it up with a clip light to thaw it (worked). Cheapskate builders shallow buried the pipes here and put the main shutoff valve on an exterior riser.
 
They're all busy talking about how 2010 was "tied" (nearly tied) for warmest year on record... with at least a few other years. SoCal's summer was decidedly plesant and mild/cool without any really hot days all summer. When September hit we had one record-breaking hot day here in San Diego and a couple other regularly hot days and then that was all she wrote. One record-breaking hot day does not counter a whole summer of particularly mild/cool days.

Edit: Old thread is old.
 
Whatever it does, it's AGW.

They said AGW would mean no snow. Now that there's a lot of snow, they are saying it's AGW, too.

Hurricanes, too. AGW was going to bring us lots and stronger. When we had fewer and weaker, that was AGW, too.

You'd think they'd quit predicting what AGW will do...
 
Hurricanes, too. AGW was going to bring us lots and stronger. When we had fewer and weaker, that was AGW, too.
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Except we didn't have fewer and weaker. 2010 was #8 season of the past 100 years or so. It was labeled "hyperactive". 2009 was below normal, but 2008 was way above! 2004 and 2005 were ridonkulous of course.

Where are the stronger and fewer hurricane seasons?

Even as we speak one of the largest canes ever has hit Australia...
 
bobdole369 said:
Except we didn't have fewer and weaker. 2010 was #8 season of the past 100 years or so. It was labeled "hyperactive". 2009 was below normal, but 2008 was way above! 2004 and 2005 were ridonkulous of course.

Where are the stronger and fewer hurricane seasons?

Even as we speak one of the largest canes ever has hit Australia...
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You said it yourself: 2009. He's saying that this is how they responded to that (the same way).
 
Remember, it's not global warming any more. The whacko's were disproved, so they changed it to "Climate change".
 
If the average temp goes up by 5 degrees, you will not see much in terms of that. What happens is a shift in the weather patters. You know, like more energy in the oceans producing greater numbers and larger sized storms (like that cyclone that just went through Australia?).

The thing I would look at would be stability of weather, not temps per se. You have a shift in the usual seasonal weather pattern (more rain, less rain, warmer winter, colder summer) then it is a sign.

The problem is, as soon as you wait long enoug to verify the pattern, the damage has already begun, and even if you were to stop all greenhouse gas production that day, it would still proceed to get worse for several years before it got better (slowing a moving freight train).

What some scientist worry about is that we have enough climate change momentum to carry us over a stabilization point (like in Calculus). We get out of a self-rectifying "trough" and start skidding off the graph on one side due to secondary and tertiary cumulative effects (algae bloom, etc).

It is just amazing how many people get up in arms whenever someone suggests that their fat asses have to actually do one iota of work (or conservation) for anyone but themselves or "God".

Hell, they will go to WalMart for a SuperSaver on toilet paper, but damn the one that tells them to drive a car that gets 3mpg more than their current ball-sack on the trailer hitch Hemi.
 
Unheard said:
Remember, it's not global warming any more. The whacko's were disproved, so they changed it to "Climate change".
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No, they weren't.

They changed it because to many bone-heads kept saying "how can the WORLD be warmer when it is colder where I live??!?"


>durf<
 
bobdole369 said:
Except we didn't have fewer and weaker. 2010 was #8 season of the past 100 years or so. It was labeled "hyperactive". 2009 was below normal, but 2008 was way above! 2004 and 2005 were ridonkulous of course.

Where are the stronger and fewer hurricane seasons?

Even as we speak one of the largest canes ever has hit Australia...
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Granted 2000-2010 looks like it will top out at slightly higher than the 90's...
(2000 data stops at 2007).
 
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