High refresh rate Gsync monitor + Doom = Jaw drop

[2is]

Try 144 vs 120. I feel the 144 hz is just marketing and everything above 120 is massive diminishing returns. I could be wrong though, they do t have high refresh 4k monitors to test with

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120Hz is pretty much extinct so it doesn't really matter if going above it has diminishing returns. Browsing newegg, there are 4 120Hz displays and 503 144Hz displays

 

[Boris Morozov]

I believe it! Doom at 1080p looks great already!

 

[moonbogg]

High refresh is a significantly improved experience over the old stuff. Congrats. Now all you need is to discover the glory of 21:9 and your jaw will drop again. Imagine your screen with more on the sides. MIND=BLOWN!

 

[guskline]

Carfax83, EVERYTHING is going to look better when you use a Titan Xp

 

[Crumpet]

High refresh is a significantly improved experience over the old stuff. Congrats. Now all you need is to discover the glory of 21:9 and your jaw will drop again. Imagine your screen with more on the sides. MIND=BLOWN!

This...

34" ultrawide 2560x1080 144hz freesync blows my mind.

But i'm waiting on a same size or bigger 1440p 144hz for prettier games. (Racing sims all end up as a green and grey blur when you're in the zone anyway)

 

[Carfax83]

High refresh is a significantly improved experience over the old stuff. Congrats. Now all you need is to discover the glory of 21:9 and your jaw will drop again. Imagine your screen with more on the sides. MIND=BLOWN!

I almost bought one, an Acer Predator x34. But when I looked at the reviews, it put some doubts into my mind as to whether I was making the proper decision or not. In fact, I ordered and cancelled three different monitors before finally deciding to stick with the ViewSonic. And I'm glad I did, because the jump from 100Hz to 144Hz is very noticeable.

Anyway, I don't think the Acer Predator was a 100Hz native monitor. It had to be overclocked to reach that frequency if I recall, which was one of the reasons why I never bought it. The main one was price. If I'm going to drop nearly $1200 on a monitor, it better be as close to perfect as possible, and the x34 has some pretty big flaws.

 

[Jaskalas]

Let this serve as a lesson to others get your gsync monitor ASAP.

I'd be worried my PC with a 1060-6gb couldn't reach those frame rates. And that's at 1080p resolution.

Would folks agree it's a choice for 4k comfortable hardware, to go 60Hz or lower res at 144Hz?

 

[bystander36]

I was always wondering if someone could tell the difference between 120Hz and 165Hz? I've upped my monitor to 120Hz and couldn't tell a bit of difference compared to 96Hz. I wonder if you could test that out CarFax? Maybe also have a friend of family member do a blind play test between the two.

Anyway, seems like a really nice monitor. Kind of pricey for 1440p, but still nice. I've always liked Viewsonic's monitors.

A lot of people find 90hz to be about the maximum hz needed before massive diminishing returns sets in. 165hz will make tearing even less noticeable if you don't use v-sync, but it's not all that important, especially if you have Gsync/freesync.

 

[crisium]

I'd be worried my PC with a 1060-6gb couldn't reach those frame rates. And that's at 1080p resolution.

Would folks agree it's a choice for 4k comfortable hardware, to go 60Hz or lower res at 144Hz?

You can appreciate higher frame rates without 144fps. That's the beauty of G/Free Sync. 75fps is noticeable over 60. 90 is noticeable over 75, etc. Even if you tune a game to where you only average around 70 it's a gigantic upgrade over 60hz because it is smother, has no screen tearing, don't need to worry about minimums messing up your v sync, or v sync lag.

You can also lower settings if you want higher framerates (assuming your CPU can handle it). I'd have no problems recommending a 1440p 144hz G Sync set to a 1060 6GB user, so long as that user can handle the mental anguish of not selecting Ultra for every setting in every game.

 

[guachi]

GSync/Freesync is so good I don't know why every gamer who isn't a real budget gamer doesn't have one.

Well, I do know a reason - GSync is about a 30% premium and AMD doesn't have anything really good for many people to upgrade to at the higher end.

However, if you game at 1080 you don't really have an excuse. Get a 480 or 1060 and a Freesync or GSync monitor (But Freesync is much cheaper) and go to town. The 480, because of Freesync, is even good at 1440 in current games because of Freesync (not at Ultra) and your old games will look AMAZING.

Believe the OP. The effect is somewhat akin to people saying the best way to make your PC faster is buy an SSD.

 

[Carfax83]

So I'm curious. Gsync has a hardware component, but is it worth the added premium over Freesync?

 

[2is]

So I'm curious. Gsync has a hardware component, but is it worth the added premium over Freesync?

I'll let you know... I literally just placed an order for a 144Hz Freesync monitor for use with another PC I've got running a RX480. Once I get a few hours on there, I can compare it to my 144Hz GSync monitor paired with a 980Ti. The RX480 will be pushing 1080p and the 980Ti is pushing 1440p

 

[Newbian]

So I'm curious. Gsync has a hardware component, but is it worth the added premium over Freesync?

It is very minimal that most won't really notice without specialized programs to tell the difference most of the times.

The problem is until vega hits then going above 1080p 144hz is hard for amd gpu's right now with decent graphical settings.

We will see how amd handles it when vega is released and what the 1440p freesync 144hz monitors that get released because of it or are on the market can do so if you are building a new computer it may be worth going the way of a freesync monitor to save a decent amount if vega is worth it.

 

[vissarix]

Yeah high refresh rate makes a huge difference...honestly i wouldnt even bother with freesync and gsync if you can get enough frames...they are useless gimmicks...you can barely notice tearing.

 

[2is]

Yeah high refresh rate makes a huge difference...honestly i wouldnt even bother with freesync and gsync if you can get enough frames...they are useless gimmicks...you can barely notice tearing.

If you're actually pushing >100fps then the inclusion of gsync/freesync is probably less beneficial, but you won't always be pushing >100fps. At least not if you're the type that likes to crank up the eye candy. At 40-80fps however there's a clear benefit to having an adaptive sync monitor.

 

[bystander36]

If you're actually pushing >100fps then the inclusion of gsync/freesync is probably less beneficial, but you won't always be pushing >100fps. At least not if you're the type that likes to crank up the eye candy. At 40-80fps however there's a clear benefit to having an adaptive sync monitor.

While G-sync/Freesync may have a clear benefit, the lack of noticeable tearing has nothing to do with FPS. 40-80 FPS with a 120hz or greater refresh rate makes it hard to see the tearing unless looking very hard for it. I also notice that the higher the IQ of a game, the less tearing is visible to me at least.

 

[moonbogg]

I thought Gsync was a useless gimmick and I even talked trashed about it. Then I realized it wasn't turned on in BF1. Turned it on and it does make the image much more solid and clear. In Rocketleague if Gsync isn't on, the game looks like it's straight up broken with the background all separated and garbage looking. Depends on the game but it does have a valued place in my gaming today.

 

[showb1z]

I instantly notice something is "off" when freesync is disabled on my 144hz display. It's become an indispensible feature for me.
YMMV, but for a gamer it doesn't make much sense to buy a non-adaptive sync monitor at this point.

 

[beginner99]

You mean ULMB? No I haven't. How does it compare to Gsync?

Look at this test. 144 hz of course already helps a lot but ULMB (or in my case benq blur reduction which is essentially the same thing) help even more especially if you compare it to a 60 hz display. You should be able to read the street names in this map without even trying. That's impossible on 60 hz.

 

[Crumpet]

Word of warning.. Experienced something last night that cannot be unseen.

I used to think my wifes 1440p monitor with near perfect colour calibration was the most beautiful thing for gaming.

I had to use it last night to check some game settings for her, after months of using my 144hz freesync monitor.

...my eyes...

Screen tear, frame time stutter, fps dips.. oh god make it stop

I have been ruined. I can't go back to 60hz monitors.

 

[Snarf Snarf]

This thread fills me with both great happiness and great sorrow. I'm stuck in this limbo of waiting to see how Vega performs at 1440p so I can make a long term commitment to FreeSync or G-Sync wasting the potential of my 980ti stuck at 60Hz right now. In fact there's a 1440p AHVA 144Hz Freesync monitor in front of me on display at work and I want to buy it so bad, but if Vega can't do what I want I'll be getting a 1080ti and a G-Sync monitor so I have to hold off. First world problems.

Thanks for all the input though guys because I don't think I would have felt like adaptive sync was necessary without hearing everyone absolutely loving it. Also good to know the viewsonic is actually rated above the x27 and the ROG swift. Does anyone in here own the Dell 1440p TN panel 144Hz monitor by chance and have an opinion on color quality and viewing angles? Saving $200 by not going IPS sounds nice, someone talk me out of it

 

[2is]

This thread fills me with both great happiness and great sorrow. I'm stuck in this limbo of waiting to see how Vega performs at 1440p so I can make a long term commitment to FreeSync or G-Sync wasting the potential of my 980ti stuck at 60Hz right now. In fact there's a 1440p AHVA 144Hz Freesync monitor in front of me on display at work and I want to buy it so bad, but if Vega can't do what I want I'll be getting a 1080ti and a G-Sync monitor so I have to hold off. First world problems.

Thanks for all the input though guys because I don't think I would have felt like adaptive sync was necessary without hearing everyone absolutely loving it. Also good to know the viewsonic is actually rated above the x27 and the ROG swift. Does anyone in here own the Dell 1440p TN panel 144Hz monitor by chance and have an opinion on color quality and viewing angles? Saving $200 by not going IPS sounds nice, someone talk me out of it

I'm running that Dell monitor and viewing angles are quite good. My friend has the Acer Predator and we compared them side by side, his colors are a bit richer. Nothing I actually notice in games.

 

[Snarf Snarf]

I'm running that Dell monitor and viewing angles are quite good. My friend has the Acer Predator and we compared them side by side, his colors are a bit richer. Nothing I actually notice in games.

Thanks for the response, thats good news for my bank account