High pitch whine coming from the 8800 GTX

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chizow

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Didnt the (some?) 7900GTX's have the same problem. Im fairly certain Ive heard about this before. eVGA problem? 5150 doesnt seem like the kinda person to skimp on a PSU, or anything else really.

I doubt the problem is limited to EVGA cards, unless the sticker is somehow causing the whine. Most NV AIB partners just purchase contracted reference G80 boards and rebadge them. There's a few who have the capability to fab their own PCBs (Asus, Leadtek, Gainward I think) but I'm pretty sure they've stuck to the reference boards with G80.

Interesting problem though, doesn't happen with my GTS but there's more than a few instances of the GTX behaving differently. If it doesn't occur during normal usage I wouldn't worry about it too much, but it doesn't hurt to have it exchanged within your pre-warranty period.
 

Gstanfor

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I just grabbed a few random google links. The local thread should still be here if someone can be bothered digging for it (something you could have done instead of whining).

Not at all surprised the fanatics have a collective case of amnesia over this issue though...
 

Ackmed

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Not at all surprised you've resorted to name calling and insults either. While nobody else was doing any of that in this thread. Everyone else is on topic, and posting appropriately.

I didnt say NV cards were the only ones to whine. Most of the talk about that, was the fan "whine" compared to the NV cards.

As I said, I thought 7900GTX cards had an issue with this too. And after 30 seconds of looking, seems my memory is correct. And thats just one forum. Obviously its not with every card, and is pretty rare. But there appears to be an issue with the caps on certain cards, and/or models.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1109260&highlight=whine
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1140549&highlight=whine
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1170614&highlight=whine
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=980854&highlight=whine
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=991342&highlight=whine
 

josh6079

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I just grabbed a few random google links. The local thread should still be here if someone can be bothered digging for it (something you could have done instead of whining).
LoL, I'm not the one making the claim. Someone else was.

You asked someone if they remember the thread here then gave links to threads everywhere else but here. Now you want others to go find it?
Not at all surprised the fanatics have a collective case of amnesia over this issue though...
Amnesia? How many times have I commented on the high-pitched sound that I heard when overclocking my X1900XTX before I drowned it?

I know this issue existed with the X1900's because I have one. I just didn't know that a similar problem existed with the 7900's.

It's not like it even matters though considering this thread is about the 8800's, a different card entirely. It's also moot because the OP has made a resolution.
 

Gstanfor

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Not at all surprised you've resorted to name calling and insults either. While nobody else was doing any of that in this thread. Everyone else is on topic, and posting appropriately.

I didnt say NV cards were the only ones to whine. Most of the talk about that, was the fan "whine" compared to the NV cards.

As I said, I thought 7900GTX cards had an issue with this too. And after 30 seconds of looking, seems my memory is correct. And thats just one forum. Obviously its not with every card, and is pretty rare. But there appears to be an issue with the caps on certain cards, and/or models.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1109260&highlight=whine
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1140549&highlight=whine
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1170614&highlight=whine
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=980854&highlight=whine
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=991342&highlight=whine

Your memory is as faulty as ever. Not one of those links mentions a 7900GTX.

Just admit it ackmed, you took what you thought was going to be an easy swipe at nvidia and stuffed up, didn't you?
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
It was r580 that had capacitor whine issues, not g71

Personally I'd get the card replaced, bad capacitors will fail (and if they are the taiwanese ones with faulty electrolyte they are likely to do so well before the end of the cards useful life).


Like I said, another eVGA 8800 GTX I bought from Fry's had the exact same problem. There's also a lot of others that have experienced the same whine from their eVGA cards. I guess I'll find out one way or another because I don't have time to RMA the card anymore.
 

Gstanfor

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Frankly, if you ignore the evga warranty and trade in program, I'm not sure why people buy their cards. There are a lot of better manufactured nvidia cards out there IMO. I'd be purchasing Leadtek, Gainward or BFG before even considering e-vga.
 

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
It was r580 that had capacitor whine issues, not g71

Personally I'd get the card replaced, bad capacitors will fail (and if they are the taiwanese ones with faulty electrolyte they are likely to do so well before the end of the cards useful life).


Quite right.

I had a similar isssue with an evga gtx except mine would squeal on powerdown. I had people suggesting to me that it was my PSU not supplying enough voltage, etc. Nope - I'm running a PS with 60 amps on the 12 volt. After I rmaed the card, the new one works without issue.

Squealing like that (from what I've been told) is usually due to power problems (faulty caps probably).

You have two choices -

1. Keep it until it dies or you sell it to someone else - you'll take a hit selling a squealer to someone buying it second hand, unless you decide not to disclose this.

2. RMA it now while the process is easy and you can return it to the point of purchase as defective - provided you are within your 30 days.


 

BFG10K

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Most of them RMA'd their cards until they got one that didn't exhibit the noise but as long as mine works I'm going to just keep it. Thanks guys.
I would personally RMA that thing Joker. If it's whining now who knows what it'll do later.

So I guess it's not a general 8800GTX cooler issue.
Glad to hear it - if the R600 tanks I'll be seriously considering a 8800 GTX to upgrade my 8800 GTS.
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: TourGuide
Originally posted by: Gstanfor
It was r580 that had capacitor whine issues, not g71

Personally I'd get the card replaced, bad capacitors will fail (and if they are the taiwanese ones with faulty electrolyte they are likely to do so well before the end of the cards useful life).


Quite right.

I had a similar isssue with an evga gtx except mine would squeal on powerdown. I had people suggesting to me that it was my PSU not supplying enough voltage, etc. Nope - I'm running a PS with 60 amps on the 12 volt. After I rmaed the card, the new one works without issue.

Squealing like that (from what I've been told) is usually due to power problems (faulty caps probably).

You have two choices -

1. Keep it until it dies or you sell it to someone else - you'll take a hit selling a squealer to someone buying it second hand, unless you decide not to disclose this.

2. RMA it now while the process is easy and you can return it to the point of purchase as defective - provided you are within your 30 days.


I'd love to RMA the card but I'm leaving for 16 months starting May 1st so I don't have the time to do so. I got a great deal on the 8800 GTX from newegg for $493 so if it dies on me then it dies and I'll live with it. However people should be aware that eVGA cards do have this problem since I'm 2/2 with squealers/whiners.
 

Gstanfor

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I still think you should RMA (that noise does sound electrical, not fan based to me). If you have any trouble, have a chat to jakup over at nvnews - I'm pretty sure he does (or used to at least) support for e-vga. Having said that, most people say that e-vga is pretty quick with their rma's (if there is a genuine problem).
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
I still think you should RMA (that noise does sound electrical, not fan based to me). If you have any trouble, have a chat to jakup over at nvnews - I'm pretty sure he does (or used to at least) support for e-vga. Having said that, most people say that e-vga is pretty quick with their rma's (if there is a genuine problem).


I contacted a guy I know at Newegg to see if he's willing to ship me a replacement via overnight shipping by this week. If he can do that then I'll RMA otherwise I'm stuck with the card.
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: TourGuide
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Ok just for you guys, I made a recording of the whining both of my eVGA 8800 GTX's make:

eVGA 8800 GTX symphony (whine)
Pics of the 8800 GTX boxes for those wondering if I'm bullshitting or not.


Lord!

I don't know about you, but that undulating wave would drive me NUTS!! No WAY I could live with that, not for 5 Franklins - no way.

Good luck man.


Well to be fair, the electrical pitch/whine is only that loud when I run ATi tool's artifact scanner. In games it is a steady high pitch noise but not as pronounced.
 

jim1976

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GL m8.. I agree that you should find a way and RMA it.. It is not a "normal" sound by any means... It sounds like when a fan is about to fail..
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: jim1976
GL m8.. I agree that you should find a way and RMA it.. It is not a "normal" sound by any means... It sounds like when a fan is about to fail..


It's definitely not the fan, it's the card itself. I emailed the Newegg guy to see if he can help me out so I'll update with what happens. Anyway I was bored and made a video recording of it too: Video of eVGA 8800 GTX whine
 

JBT

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My x1900XT whines a bit, on game menu's. The actual game is fine but for whatever reason menu's make my card do it.
 

josh6079

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: josh6079
Well to be fair, the electrical pitch/whine is only that loud when I run ATi tool's artifact scanner.
Exactly the same issue I had with my X1900XTX.


Did it work fine otherwise?

Yes...

...until I started it up with water on it...:( (my fault)

I'm 99% sure the wine was from the caps, but it only really happened during ATi Tool's artifact scanner when overclocking. Sometimes when running games on overclocked frequencies it did it as well - albeit, to a lesser degree.

I'm beginning to suspect this to be more of an industry-wide issue relative to graphic PCB's and/or wiring as well as their corresponding caps. Especially since it's happened on several cards both ATi and nVidia alike.
 

Ackmed

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Ugh, thats very annoying and loud. What kinda caps are they, same brand as ATi's?

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Not at all surprised you've resorted to name calling and insults either. While nobody else was doing any of that in this thread. Everyone else is on topic, and posting appropriately.

I didnt say NV cards were the only ones to whine. Most of the talk about that, was the fan "whine" compared to the NV cards.

As I said, I thought 7900GTX cards had an issue with this too. And after 30 seconds of looking, seems my memory is correct. And thats just one forum. Obviously its not with every card, and is pretty rare. But there appears to be an issue with the caps on certain cards, and/or models.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1109260&highlight=whine
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1140549&highlight=whine
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1170614&highlight=whine
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=980854&highlight=whine
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=991342&highlight=whine

Your memory is as faulty as ever. Not one of those links mentions a 7900GTX.

Just admit it ackmed, you took what you thought was going to be an easy swipe at nvidia and stuffed up, didn't you?

7900GT, and 7800 cards are based on the same PCB/chip as the 7900GTX. I only did one simple search, you can disregard whatever you want, doesnt change the facts.

I didnt take a swipe at anything. I posted on topic, with relevance to 5150's topic. You on the other hand, decided to throw out names, and insults as usual. I see you havent changed at all. You're not dragging me down that road anymore, either post appropriately, or get ignored.
 

Gstanfor

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The PCB for 7900GT and GTX are different, the 7900GT fan assembly is much noisier (in most cases but not all), I don't have personal experience of a 7800 GTX PCB, but I very much doubt it could be the same simply because the pinouts for the GPU are different (G70 was a larger chip). It shares the same excellent heatsink (best in the GPU industry bar the G80) as 7900 GTX and I'll absolutely guarantee that it isn't the source of the noise.

You really are pathetic with your claim that you didn't take a swipe at nvidia - a blind man in a dark alley is capable of seeing what you are/were doing ackmed. Just admit it - I freely admit I dislike ATi - I don't try to pretend that I'm not really attacking them when I do attack them.
 

Ackmed

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You trying to claim that the 7800/7900 cards are not based on the same design is laughable, really. If one card has a problem, the cards are close enough that others can have the same problem. Which is all I said. I simply said past NV cards have had the same problem, and perhaps there is a link between them. Nobody other than you, one of the most pro NV and anti ATi people around, said anything. Why? Probably because you try to read into everything too much, to pull something out and twist it to what you think someone said.

It wasnt an attack on NV. What it is, is you trolling after me all the time. I dont dislike NV, I do prefer ATI however. Which I have said several times. Claiming you know what I am doing, when you are far too ignorant to know is funny as well. You throwing out insults all the time, then throwing up the terms and agreements to other people is very hypocritical, but Im used to that from you. You are now ignored, but Im sure that wont stop you from trolling after me.