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Originally posted by: Pacal
YOyoYOhowsDAjello,

Many thanks for the references. Those Orb Audio speakers look fantastic, but I didn't see them in the lineup of alternative setups. Do you have any first hand experience with Orb Audio's products?

Thanks for stopping by,
~Pacal

I don't have firsthand experience since I went for something larger for my own setup and didn't really demo much that was very small in size.
I did try out some Monitor Audio Radius speakers but they didn't really appeal to me.

There are a lot of great small options out there that are significantly better than Bose. AVSforum and Hometheaterforum would be two great resources for looking up alternatives.

If you can, go out and listen to some different stuff before you decide what you want. With the variety of options that are out there, picking out a sound that you like is very hard to do online or without demo-ing.

How small do your speahers have to be?

Could they be larger as long as they are wall mountable?
 
Ribbon13,

I'm not sure I've ever owned an ATI video card before. The R300 or 2900 cards from ATI look incredible and it appears as though they may be better suited to a home theater setup than nVidia right now. How long have you been running ATI cards?

I'm thinking I'm going to build a combination desk and home entertainment center using extruded aluminum and oak. Are you familiar with mkProfiles? Maybe I can build my half-racks right into the side of it.

You know of any decent external rackmount chassis for a sata array to interface with that Areca 1231ML? How's 3Ware's 9650SE card compare, any idea? [3Ware 9650SE http://www.3ware.com/products/serial_ata2-9650.asp]

w00t,

My ears are not the most sensitive in discerning sound quality. I spent some of my youth as an amateur pride fighter and the bones in my ears don't resonate like they should from all those blows to the head. So, I was (and am) easy to impress by any audio system that can demonstrate good surround sound, but that doesn't mean I want to go with any old speaker system.


WraithETC,

Yeah, I was real impressed by Auzen's X-Meridian 7.1 sound card. Any idea when this new EAX enabled DD Live encoding card is due out or do you have any references for the product?


YOyoYOhowsDAjello,

I'm not sure I can easily differentiate between audio systems in a demo environment. As I pointed out to w00t, my ears have a hard time distinguishing between audio systems. What brand of speakers are you using right now? They look rather impressive both in aesthetics and size judging by your photos. I could probably disguise the speakers in my home entertainment center if their size begins to detract or interfere with the decor, but I tend to like smaller speakers if only for their aesthetics though I don't want to sacrifice quality either. They don't have to be wall mountable and if I have to sacrifice size for quality, than I am inclined to do so and I will just adapt the home entertainment center to disguise them.

Ribbon13>> How do those Dayton speakers you recommended in an earlier post work for you?


Thanks for stopping by fellas,
~Pacal
 
I calculated my maximum power usage using the power consumption calculator over at http://extreme.outervision.com. According to their calculator, my power usage tops out at 710W with everything on the mobo in use. My intention was to "future-proof" with 300 additional watts of power, but I can understand how this might be excessive considering the mobo potential.

...is there a space heater on that motherboard or something?

I punched in a similar system and it spat out 421W (which I still think is high for 'real' usage, but I think you'd want at least a 400-450W PSU with good +12V rails). It doesn't provide much detail on the breakdown, though, and I'm not paying for the 'pro' version.

But basically, I think that CPU tops out around 125W, the video card around 150W, and maybe 20W for each of the Raptors. If you allow another 100W for the motherboard/sound/fans/waterpump/etc. -- that puts you around 400-425W, if you were running every single thing in the system 100% at the same time.

I'd be looking at PSUs in the 400-600W range, not the 700-1000W range. Unless you plan on serious OCing and/or adding a second 8800GTX at some point.
 
Originally posted by: Pacal
YOyoYOhowsDAjello,

I'm not sure I can easily differentiate between audio systems in a demo environment. As I pointed out to w00t, my ears have a hard time distinguishing between audio systems. What brand of speakers are you using right now? They look rather impressive both in aesthetics and size judging by your photos. I could probably disguise the speakers in my home entertainment center if their size begins to detract or interfere with the decor, but I tend to like smaller speakers if only for their aesthetics though I don't want to sacrifice quality either. They don't have to be wall mountable and if I have to sacrifice size for quality, than I am inclined to do so and I will just adapt the home entertainment center to disguise them.

Sorry to hear that 🙁

Are you going to be using this system with some other specific people? (family?)
Maybe it could be something you could do with a SO or someone who is going to be listening to the system a lot as well to get their opinion on different options?

I went with my ex when I was demo-ing stuff so we both got to hear some of the different options.

It might be worth it to just go on your own anyway just in case you surprise yourself about what kind of differences you can distinguish. If nothing else, it may lead you to decide that you don't want to waste money on getting a more expensive audio system when a $400 Onkyo HTIB might suit you just as well as spending several thousand on a system.

My speakers are from the Rocket series from AV123
http://www.av123.com/

They've also recently started their X-Series speakers there that are the budget line. They have a lot of new products coming out soon. http://av123.wetpaint.com/

Something nice about some of these online brands are their risk free trial periods. AV123 lets you order a pair of bookshelf speakers to test out and if you don't like them, you can return them within the trial period and get all your money back including shipping.

There are a lot of online brands to match a variety of budgets.

Towards the lower end ($1000-ish)
http://www.svsound.com/products-sys.cfm
http://www.av123.com/products_category_pack.php?section=speakers&brand=55

Spending more
http://www.ascendacoustics.com/
http://www.axiomaudio.com/
http://www.av123.com/products_category_pack.php?section=speakers&brand=3

Some places to look for a sub
http://www.svsound.com/
http://www.hsuresearch.com/

Lots of other options out there too. They're all going to have different sounds that will appeal to some people and not so much to others.

ribbon13's suggestions are about kit speakers that you would build. If you have the tools and skills necessary to do that, it's a great way to get bang for your buck in speakers.
A DIY sub would be even easier.

Not as good, but still better than retail are the online options I mentioned. After demo-ing several retail options at several pricepoints, the speakers that I've used from brands like AV123 and Axiom (and subs from SVS / AV123 too) have been significantly better than what I found for a similar retail price.

As for fitting in with the decor, there are a lot of options for some of these brands to change the appearance of the speakers to try to match your room.

I think my speakers are pretty much the best looking thing in my apartment though, so I'm not really trying to hide them 😉

EDIT: Oh, and the Bose system already comes with its own receiver. You'd need to add a receiver or separates to any system you put together on your own (as well as wires, etc.) unless it was a HTIB (Home Theater In a Box)

AVSforum and HomeTheaterForum are a couple places to find more information if I didn't mention those already
 
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